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Tony, Clint, Vance, Jaime Season 4 Episode 111

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2024 is already off to a great start for video game releases and we're talking about a few of them like Tekken 8, Palworld and Lost Crown, plus one that is stumbling out of the blocks. Listen in as we talk about it.

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00:00.00
sentfrmheaven
And we are alive. Let me know you ready to me I 3 2 and.

00:02.60
tanomsak
I started already.

00:14.96
tanomsak
Are we good all right welcome back. Everybody say good to game radio I'm your host Tony speaking and again with me tonight I have great pleasure to be with hy me and Vance what's going on.

00:18.70
sentfrmheaven
Yep.

00:29.10
Jaime G
Yo.

00:33.27
tanomsak
Great to see you guys. We just said last week's episode where we drafted our teams when how we looking there imy.

00:42.72
Jaime G
We're looking awesome and honestly I'm going to tell you the standings last time I checked you were actually you played your card with prince of Persia you're not doing too. Well my friend you're actually scoring an 86 however, Vance my man here with tech and eight ninety points and like a dragon infinite wealth eighty nine. Yeah yep.

01:09.48
tanomsak
Ooh drop the point and drop the point. Ah.

01:11.11
sentfrmheaven
I wo oh I can't wait till ah they drop a edd you an idea see that's gonna pumping up the 92

01:19.81
tanomsak
Man I was telling advanced so that man we should do a couple more games.

01:24.40
Jaime G
I think you know what I actually am am going to enjoy this but it's like I'm going to be looking at these scores throughout the year being like okay how am I ranking it and the the.

01:24.51
sentfrmheaven
He.

01:38.27
Jaime G
It's like you can't do anything to to improve these other than you know so slop out games with somebody. Ah.

01:43.16
sentfrmheaven
Ah, you gonna be at the random store. Hu so get a new game and may get that taken 8 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, get take 8 right? right? right.

01:45.75
tanomsak
Ah.

01:47.93
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go reveal a meta crave too.

01:49.35
tanomsak
So you're saying we need a ketchup mechanism that right now that the whole system relies on the failure of somebody else. We a catchchup mechanism. Okay, well next season we' Well we'll try and incorporate something creative like that I'm like.

01:57.81
Jaime G
Exactly we need something to to So you know do have.

02:08.65
tanomsak
I mean it goes against the traditional values of any fantasy sport but hey it's our game so we can do whatever we like you oo trading.

02:12.22
Jaime G
I Wait hey can you like trade play yours in fantasy football. Yeah.

02:18.63
sentfrmheaven
To ah here.

02:23.28
tanomsak
Ah, who's going to trade a worse game for and ah for a lesser game for for a better game or see next time I'm thinking like ah you ban games like before the draft actually starts.

02:24.55
Jaime G
Well we we make up like a bench of games that you could trade in and swap out.

02:33.58
sentfrmheaven
Oo so.

02:41.10
tanomsak
Right? Like each person can like oh ah, you get a band you get 1 band right.

02:41.69
sentfrmheaven
Ah.

02:43.59
Jaime G
You oh you? No no, no yo you? What have you all had planned this out where you're you're just goingnna bad bad final 5 this is 7 and I was gonna I was gonna end up really messed up. Yeah.

02:49.41
tanomsak
I want to band tech and you're gonna ban final fancy say I got sneak peek at his list. Let's take all 3 of them out.

02:59.90
sentfrmheaven
Ah, right here I mean I honestly think Prince of per sha should have a highest score I Think so.

03:04.11
Jaime G
I well.

03:10.53
Jaime G
I I don't.

03:12.59
tanomsak
I mean 86 is a pretty good score I like ah there were people out there would kill for an 86 for their game like it. But.

03:19.55
sentfrmheaven
Well they said it made a better game. Yeah.

03:20.68
Jaime G
No, no, no wait early mans mans earlier Tony was like 86 is a really good scored. Um, go check out. Go check out hello Night hall night's kind of similar. So I go hall night sitting at a 90

03:33.73
sentfrmheaven
Say say yeah.

03:36.59
tanomsak
Unbelievable I can't I just understand it I've fallen asleep twice playing hall night. Okay, and I'm I'm just starting the game I just don't understand height and the score can be higher I'm like I'm all into I'm all into a prince of Persia I'm like and this.

03:50.79
sentfrmheaven
The City does say.

03:52.56
tanomsak
Good. This is awesome. Music's Blair. It's yo I'm I'm just I'm in the groove hall night I'm not off I'm not you telling me that the score for hollow night is higher than Prince Persia something's not right I don't know.

03:52.85
Jaime G
Yeah, no, no, no no.

04:05.82
Jaime G
And absolutely it is.

04:07.16
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, so matter. Of fact, so I see people online. You know when zombies call a duty and you know how people just get crying about a again, get to crying so somebody asked a real quest I hate I hear what you saying I understand what you saying, but if you were a developer What would you do different. And a lot of people don't have a real answer so I'm swinging the ball to your court. So if you say 86 is good. What would make ah, what would you change about prince of Persia to make 90.

04:33.31
Jaime G
Yeah.

04:39.50
tanomsak
The the lead character in prince of Persia Sargon he needs more depth right? Like he's a very cardboard character right? It's like no, there's not a whole lot of personality there. There's not a whole lot of backstory. There. It's just hey I'm a guy that's great at this. You know you can't stop me right and there's no situation does my attitude change really like and that's who you're playing so like it's a sides scroller I know it's like It's not like a narrative game. It's not like a lot at the last of us or something like that that you don't have so much time and and the resources you can put into the the story but maybe a little bit little bit just a little bit.

05:28.20
sentfrmheaven
So He man I feel like it's harder to parry in Prince Of Persia than it is than elder ring and a assassin are I'm trying to time it and it's like it's not like you know how you got the ones where there it's like a wind up and you know it's coming. It's like. You like that like it's too quick I can like yeah like yeah like you shitny beat his fast that he beat his hard a perry like yo.

05:49.60
tanomsak
Oh yeah, those enemies are fast. Super fast. Yeah, but that has it has a really good system in in prince per I called a. It's an amullet system where you can. Basically change perks out like for your character and like each um piece that you add to the amlet. Yeah, the Wawa trees. Yeah, so it.

06:12.72
Jaime G
Oh wait. It isn't that like at at like the Wawa tree or something like that. It's got like a really weird but when I heard that it reminded me of that gas station that's like up up north.

06:18.16
sentfrmheaven
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

06:27.51
sentfrmheaven
A off subject but that gas station on j he was streaming other night and ah this guy I met um you know he's always in a stream state man you know like but he comes in and he says you're so that's that's a term.

06:27.54
tanomsak
This. Ah.

06:42.25
sentfrmheaven
That I've heard in Delaware in Philly up north im like man we from he said I'm in Delaware and I was like I've only met 1 other person outside of Delaware and I was at Atlanta but he was like man. Yo'm hungry I said yo go to waawa he was like man wowba he's like yeah I'm go to Wawa.

06:54.12
Jaime G
And gotawawa.

06:59.89
sentfrmheaven
And he went the wow I was like man I wish we had a wowwa here like wowwaz like o they lemonade is unmated man I I know Chick -fia got good lemon able wow wow lemonade is man.

07:10.69
Jaime G
I yo yo. so so I went to Delaware last year and I went to that big old mall. You told me about and we had a ah flat tire on the rental car and where we were working at somebody told us.

07:26.74
Jaime G
The most natural conversation Hey there's a wawa up the street and I'm thinking that why? ah what na yeah and then and but but then but then I didn't pay attention to this. We're like I we'll just kind of call call the rental. You know they'll fix it or something.

07:34.95
tanomsak
Ah, a Wawa tree. Ah.

07:34.95
sentfrmheaven
Um, ah Wow what.

07:45.50
Jaime G
And then later we're like hey we need to get gas completely different area. Oh yeah, there's a Wawa silver there I was like what I mean I it I wasn't paying attention to what the wahwa was and outs in in prince of Persia too sorry Tony.

07:57.38
sentfrmheaven
Well the Walwat tree and.

08:00.15
tanomsak
Ah, yeah, the gas in a in a coffee go to the Wawa tree.

08:03.23
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

08:05.23
sentfrmheaven
A a little a little vice to listeners if if you play a new game. You don't understand a skill tree. You know you play parents of Persia the amulets go with more health you always need more health i.

08:19.16
tanomsak
Right? Always out one critical thing always more health how world I'm playing power world you put points. You have you points every time you level up more health.

08:24.58
sentfrmheaven
Good Always boy help where I.

08:34.91
sentfrmheaven
I More healthy here hey i' put that on a shirt more health more he a right? hey it did somebody want to say something crazy man you got stop drinking Coke bad idea.

08:37.24
tanomsak
Number 1 Ah yeah, real life can I add 1 point to more health. Ah.

08:48.60
Jaime G
So what meant.

08:54.33
sentfrmheaven
You're off the board of ideas I'm not I'm not stopped drink co get out here I hear you.

09:00.81
Jaime G
Dude Dude you know it's this This is a little bit unrelated I've been watching an anime called Solo leveling and the main character he's he he's like he basically gets turned into like a video game Like. He's in the hospital and he like wakes up and he's got like a lifebar on top of him and he's the only one who can see it and he gets like daily quests that he needs to go and exercise and whatever every time he levels Up. He's like I don't know what to pick more health Strength Perception. So He's like always just picking Strength. That's the only thing he knows how to pick right? is you were just talking about like always pick more health I was like this cactor is always picking just strength so he's like super strong but that's ah like basic the all he he's got.

09:45.80
tanomsak
Yeah, all right? So January wrap it up January and some great games have dropped right? We we've had a couple episodes now where we've talked about games. We're looking forward to. We had a draft episode so obviously we're trying to pick the best games. But ah so we've had a couple great j yep and we were just talking about 1 of them lost Crown sworn to 86 ah on Metacritic and now tech it 8.

10:06.73
Jaime G
And interestingly that 3 3 games in the draft released in january.

10:22.60
tanomsak
You guys who's playing taking eight. Oh yeah, na I've seen a lot of people at work playing taking 8 a lot of people playing taking 8

10:23.21
Jaime G
This guy and I am getting crushed left and right left and right dude. Do you do you guys know, somebody like his name's like Poncho honess.

10:24.27
sentfrmheaven
Hi me.

10:30.16
sentfrmheaven
Right? Yeah won take talk to as well.

10:41.10
sentfrmheaven
Ah yes I believe that's Dc.

10:42.10
Jaime G
Man I've but I've seen him online man. He's a I think his his rating is much higher than mine already I'm like I'm not messing with this guy. No I'm right away I mean.

10:53.41
tanomsak
Ah, you challenge him.

10:58.70
Jaime G
Dude a white belt goes up to like a black belt and he's like hey man, let's throw it down. No way.

11:01.50
sentfrmheaven
I well that guy I'm a cowboys fan that guy's the Eagles fan. So i'mma tape some of his matches ascend to you and I let you see that you ah it a challenge. He's like man this guy know all my moves.

11:13.32
Jaime G
No Okay, okay, no, but I think you can actually download ah other people's replays yeah fight their ghosts even like an a I version of them.

11:18.10
sentfrmheaven
Yes.

11:23.68
tanomsak
Really, that's cool. Yeah, well we meet you the object is in our Discord community to to build the strongest fighting rossers we can so ah ponto jones.

11:23.76
sentfrmheaven
Oh us here? Oh wow.

11:30.18
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

11:35.77
sentfrmheaven
Right? right.

11:40.78
tanomsak
You know he might be added to that roster for a could the game for the next ah rumbo on the tarmac.

11:43.50
Jaime G
From sgl yeah, and by the way since you mentioned it hit us up on the Discord we actually created a very specific tech and channel I found this random video of cassia having like a ginormous. Tennis you collection I thought that was hilarious man so we're having some we're having some ongoing discussions. You know best get guest character that we can bring in hit us up leave your comments I want to hear it'll be coming up in the chat in a second.

12:02.89
tanomsak
No Wow Yeah yeah, throw.

12:13.24
tanomsak
Throw the Discord ah invite up in the chat. Awesome So go good.

12:19.96
sentfrmheaven
You? So oh yeah, so ah, yeah, hi me. Um, so ah, what is your ah without giving you away. You know some of yeah tick ah tricks and tips. What is your ah fighting styles is it defense offense mixture. Both.

12:34.48
Jaime G
Man if I can I I I tend to lean towards grapplers and street fighter six I use the grappler character and king of fighters I use grapplers and in here I'm using king who's another Grapp Grappler apparently person my son's feedback I'm not any good with him.

12:52.86
sentfrmheaven
I.

12:54.80
Jaime G
But I'll mix it up I need to find the right character for this one because I'm either really bad or they're learning or you know the people on playing are really good.

13:08.45
sentfrmheaven
Right now king now when you first said king that's not the one like half jaguar cheater or something like that is it as a okay okay, ah yeah, yeah.

13:14.00
Jaime G
That's that's him that's him. Yeah, he's a wrestler due with like a Jaar face never speaks only like grouse.

13:24.32
sentfrmheaven
Right? Yeah see I like I like the grapplers too because I'm like I could layer the wholewa combos or I could just learn that grappless combos because like said street fight is in geef once he hit you with a power bomb your health it goes down a quarter I do a couple times now you' your weazing I'm like yeah. Yeah, while you'll hitch I get the fireball off you know I hit my little spin size step it who I like when he does that because it's over so January explodes.

13:47.29
Jaime G
Yeah, well you you need to you need to do that in this game too.

14:00.45
Jaime G
What other do releases have. We had this month Tony you just brought up prince of persia tech wait now wait wait wait wait wait wait I'm mean ah you know we've been talking about pal where a lot on the side is it enough. Is it a release.

14:02.28
tanomsak
How world Ty world get I don't know where.

14:06.47
sentfrmheaven
Power.

14:17.75
Jaime G
When the game's in early Dev I Yeah I will well I guess if they're slapping on a price tag on it and you can buy it then technically maybe.

14:17.95
tanomsak
It's early release early access early Access. It's not officially released. It's early access. Yeah, it was on sale with $26 on steam but it's also on Gay Pass. So Also so I'm playing it on so but I'm very close to maybe buy it on Steam I Just had to see it was it really like is it enough there for me to pay $26 for it. I say there is a.

14:38.10
Jaime G
It? Okay, it counts.

14:38.48
sentfrmheaven
Thing here.

14:46.94
tanomsak
But you know and to be able to carry it on my steam deck. Ah amazing. This gave me has so much potential.

14:50.77
Jaime G
Yeah.

14:51.20
sentfrmheaven
But rumor has it that 20 Yeah well well speaking to that that was my next comment. So with the $26 price tag and you say rumor has it that the steam is six months ahead of console. Okay, okay, yeah, so some might be.

15:05.33
tanomsak
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what they said that it was ah several several versions ahead whatsapp.

15:07.70
Jaime G
Yeah, so so any of the but you're playing on on Xbox right now have been fixed any bugs that you get to see on the on the console version on the on the Xbox if you're playing on steam. Yeah, they might have been alreadyressed.

15:24.52
sentfrmheaven
Oh that is true.

15:24.98
Jaime G
There might be you know, low 3 So and the.

15:26.37
tanomsak
Maybe maybe but the difference like you can play with up the 32 characters in your server worldd on pc where you can only do it with 4 on xbox however, I don't know I'm like do you want to play in the world of 32 players I don't know. Um, it's a survival game. So is you a pvp they're talking about pvp I don't know I would be pretty cool I would love to be like the evil pal king and raid other people's basis that would be amazing with like dragon pals. Um.

15:48.98
Jaime G
There's 32 characters in taking 8

16:05.75
tanomsak
Ah, court the chicken pals that would be cool.

16:06.90
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah, well KKFP man kentucky fight pals

16:10.26
tanomsak
Ah, but yeah, have a lot of fun with that game. You know I'm Happy. Um, and that's how the the game is very like I was telling you guys about the butcher knife where you can. Like dismember your pals. It actually says it in the description make this butcher knife like because it it tells you when you're playing the game like you'll say so and so pal is being lazy right.

16:28.57
sentfrmheaven
Terrible. Yeah.

16:29.92
Jaime G
Yeah, right.

16:40.88
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, as Jack do.

16:43.86
Jaime G
I ah.

16:45.28
tanomsak
I saw guy I saw a Tiktok where this person had like they built up their base and like they had made it like into like there's like an assembly line like down in the dungeon like he he like goes through he has like a security key. He goes he punches in the security key accesses the door goes through like the little break room area then goes down ah some so a file of stairs and he opens up and there was like a podium that you can go up and it actually says this in the tech tree like from this podium or tower. You can observe your work' work right? So he goes up watches them work and then he goes down and he goes up to each one and and they're each one I'm in a separate section of the assembly line and they're working and he's got like a like ah a prod. And if they're working he leaves them alone. But if anybody who's not working he jabs with the pride like man they're simulating real world lot a real world work. but but yeah

17:49.22
sentfrmheaven
Right? That's terrible. Oh man.

17:57.65
tanomsak
This this game has so many moral issues going on one is should the game even exist like ah ah.

18:02.42
Jaime G
Yeah I was gonna say one of these moral issues might be on the side of copyright infringement. It's like so on the border of it though.

18:08.72
sentfrmheaven
See.

18:10.73
tanomsak
Ah, but it's like a lesson of like how much you can probably get away with like these guys can literally they're like I mean some of this stuff looks very very very close. To Pokemon Nintendo had to come out with a statement the day because there were so many Nintendo fans that were upset ah that this game even exists and ah that they were you know I guess we emaililing Nintendo or messaging their socials. Tell them that they needed to do something Nitendo had to make a statement. We're aware of the of po world. You know I don't think they actually name it. We are aware of this. You know this other game. You know we're investigating right? So stop email these guys.

19:01.88
sentfrmheaven
I was funny.

19:03.79
Jaime G
Yeah, you're right? it.

19:05.62
tanomsak
These guys little didn to no knows okay like they literally put a cease and assist on a guy who had taken like some of the clips from the promote promo clips from power world and superimposed like Nintendo characters and their place and Nintendo was like you did take that down. Like it wasn in of a day like they're perfectly aware of power and after like 8000000 copies sold in like four or five days they're definitely aware but you know.

19:37.10
Jaime G
This is a game that that even if Nintendo comes it comes at them. It has to survive somewhere man on somebody's hard driver. Whatever it's we might talk about something like that letter.

19:43.81
sentfrmheaven
That right? so.

19:46.63
tanomsak
Oh there's no taking it down. There's still taking it down.

19:49.66
sentfrmheaven
Yeah I mean like 8000000 sold yeah

19:55.11
Jaime G
Later.

19:57.18
tanomsak
Ah, yeah, so that's a game that exploded on the scene I don't know where we already talked about lost crown prince Persia you know that one kicking off the year is one of the first new releases.

20:11.25
tanomsak
And that's a great game I'm really enjoying that tech and 8 coming out swinging per se you know? ah.

20:14.42
Jaime G
Oh dude, the the fighting game Community is all right now they they will kind of like go to different games as they come out so last year there was a huge crowd of people playing Street Fighter six then some of it moved over to mortal combat now. Everyone who's like. Anybody who I know they're all going to the tech inate side this it and you know what there's no other decent game fighting games coming out there. It's going to take stay in that spot till something big comes out and that ain't happening anytime soon.

20:46.29
sentfrmheaven
I right right? cause I mean all the major players have dropped street Fighter Want to combat now tech. So I mean like yeah I mean the only thing the only thing there could probably move the needle I mean Eaglele had to come out with a cold and I mean a cold so Caliber gang I mean.

20:51.20
Jaime G
Right? right? exactly.

20:59.97
Jaime G
The only thing the only thing that's gonna exactly either a new game and it's a really good game or I bet you that all the other game fighting franchises are going to start now releasing dlc characters. Some think they try to get people back into them because if they don't They're gonna fade into you know? ah.

21:14.58
sentfrmheaven
So right.

21:20.11
Jaime G
Ah, you know they're going to be forgotten pretty soon. Yeah.

21:23.82
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, maybe 1 of them ah people that got fired from Microsoft could come up with good idea.

21:26.64
Jaime G
Yeah, what's up with that. Let's talk about that.

21:30.60
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, got to get.

21:31.50
tanomsak
Um, ah segue into a news piece. Ah so yeah, Microsoft post merger everybody celebrated this merger I remember. But such a great deal is going to be for the gaming industry. Yeah well Microsoft this week came out and said oh we're laying off 1900 people from the work Microsoft gaming division which incorporated you know people from Activision who were you know.

21:45.42
sentfrmheaven
So.

22:01.80
tanomsak
Um, how many of these people were championmping the merger when it was happening but I mean now post merger see see you later out the door but obviously common sense would tell you that you're bringing 2 big corporations together. There's a lot of job overlap and.

22:17.99
Jaime G
I didn't see it coming I mean Legit Legit I Mean after the fact you kind of read why these things happen when there's murders like this and I'm and I'm now coming to realize oh yeah, it makes sense.

22:20.80
tanomsak
Ah.

22:34.85
Jaime G
I Just didn't see it coming and.

22:36.56
sentfrmheaven
I yeah and I mean like that's that's that's tough because I mean let's say you know we got activision on left hi me, you're Microsoft and you know Tony you're talking to me as a work to look. It's gonna be a great opportunity for everybody. You know they're gonna welcome Miss like family you know and it's gonna be. You know, better better things going on. Okay, all right? and then it happens and they' like if 1900 of you are gone I mean previous ownership got to feel like crap I mean unless you some coldhearted human being you got to be like man.

23:08.65
Jaime G
I mean but but let's talk about something something serious here is there an any corporation and I don't care if it's gaming or not is there like some fat that you can trim off their overall you know body. Workers. There's always like some people that maybe do need to be laid off because they they're that tester that just never tests out anything or they're that quality assurance guy that never made sure that cyberpunk was ready to be released on time I mean there's always that person right. Ah, 1900 people dude in yeah I mean and I'm sure that that the opposite is true as well. There's probably like a lot of really good people that you know are rock stars but they're probably.

23:48.31
tanomsak
Right.

23:48.59
sentfrmheaven
Right? right? somebody in that group could have been salvageable.

24:05.86
Jaime G
They're probably just kind of and the whole ah hey you're in the wrong department and that whole department got this this bandit.

24:14.58
tanomsak
Yeah, one of the departments I got apparently disbanded was the ah ah one that's in charge of physical distribution of Xbox games. So it's like ah.

24:25.70
Jaime G
And all.

24:31.25
tanomsak
Xbox is gearing up for the all digital future. So you know that there's that I think ah that was one of the ah major areas that got trimmed down physical community community managers too like a lot of games have like a.

24:49.73
Jaime G
Yeah, imagine that there's there are positions that just want to hype up the game be like hey keep on playing this game some more That's that's a legit job title these days.

24:50.44
tanomsak
Their own community managers or so I think a lot of those lost their jobs.

25:00.50
tanomsak
Yeah.

25:01.00
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, but and but you know it though. It's like I guess not I guess but in the gaming world. It's like let's say next? Well next console for playstation if they come out with a all digital version. And they don't do the Dis anymore should we be surprised that.

25:22.46
tanomsak
Oh no, but that's where it's going.

25:23.61
Jaime G
No so in in some of the documents that were leaked in part of the the Microsoft this acquisition that Microsoft did I think they they released that a huge percentage of their consoles are the. Only digital editions I think I want to say I'm wrong on this. But I think it's like over 70% of their consoles that have been sold are just the digital only and it wasn't because there was like a shortage of units. But.

25:51.96
sentfrmheaven
But there.

26:00.62
Jaime G
For Microsoft in particular a lot of people have gravitated and embraced that a lot more.

26:03.88
tanomsak
Well I mean if you if you're buying a console and you say you buy ps 5 right? But you still want access to some of the old titles that used to be available to ps 5 like bethes the titles. The easiest way to get into ah those titles if you don't own a pc. That's that can play those games is to buy a series s right that you can get in I mean what What's the lows you've seen those on sale vancets.

26:40.25
tanomsak
Think.

26:40.57
sentfrmheaven
Ah, the s is um, like two fifty

26:44.86
tanomsak
Yeah, so for 2 and fifty bucks you can get into the Microsoft ecosystem and ah makes sense if you have a playstation 5 so that gives you access to both worlds. You know I know I have the series x. And that was the whole reason I bought the series x was because it was postineinemax acquisition that meant all the betheszi games were probably going to be exclusive to Xbox ah so I wanted access to those games typically liked playing their game. So. Ah, with them being exclusive to the xbox ecosystem I needed a way to be able to do that. So I bought the I went ahead and got to series x I I was like um I'll go all the way in you know, um, and funny I really haven't gotten a lot of use out of it until power world which was like a week ago so but

27:40.82
tanomsak
So power world has made the investment volley finally something. Ah.

27:44.17
Jaime G
And something had to justify it right.

27:44.68
sentfrmheaven
Right? so.

27:47.26
tanomsak
Right? Yeah, But yeah I mean the whole the whole industry is going digital like you know you hate to see it especially collectors people would like to collect or just like to have their physical auditions. Yeah, we hear we always talk about. We like to get our games in physical edition Himi You have a story with your ah with your most recent game purchase with your physical edition. But.

28:18.15
Jaime G
Dude it. It's like it is just crazy that I bought tech in a and you know you get a notification your orders going to be delayed. You're thinking a day and that then I paid attention. It was instead being deliberate on Friday got moved to sunday. Okay, then I get another notification your game's been delayed I'm thinking Monday dude it had been delayed by an extra week altogether and I I can't make this up and I am just like such a detractor of digital games I like physical games. But and this one know was like nope forget that cancel that I'm going to go and just get a digital.

28:59.46
sentfrmheaven
Right.

28:59.54
tanomsak
Well, they pretty much forced your hand. Yeah well I did at best buy after you told me that story and I'm like oh best buy hasn't been stock.

29:02.14
Jaime G
Well I mean they they kind of forced me to go to the local Walmart or game stop. But I was just lazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:08.24
sentfrmheaven
Okay.

29:16.21
sentfrmheaven
To yeah yeah, so ah, there's this game coming out what two days two days tomorrow two days if you had deluxe you.

29:18.73
tanomsak
Ah.

29:19.52
Jaime G
That's crazy though.

29:28.48
tanomsak
Oh one of the other exploding games.

29:29.18
Jaime G
This yeah, there's something else that exploded and it this actually this is hot off the press this just happened today. So a game that we have all talked about and we we said it was going to be 1 of our you know.

29:33.93
sentfrmheaven
Exploding.

29:45.36
Jaime G
Most expected games to some extent until we started seeing the early reviews was the suicide squad kills their fan base. Sorry now what happened is that the suicide squad kills the justice league. Apparently if you bought the deluxe edition you could play this game three days ahead of time which that's today. So a lot of people are started logging in on their on on their game and this game here's the catch on release. It's going to be. Always online now. Rock study has come out and said well maybe later 2024 maybe 2025 will make an offline mode but it is always going to be online and I don't think that's very clear because I'm sure there's people who are buying it and don't realize that. But anyway. So they start getting their game. They get the the game 3 or 3 days early. They load it and there's a bug on it day one that basically says you've completed the main campaign. So ah. Ah, apparently imagine you're you're getting on this game. You can't do tutorials. You're like immediately forced into neat new game. Plus you can't like start a new campaign or anything it like boom you're done and so within an hour of the game being come at.

31:12.97
Jaime G
Ah, being released it got pulled from the the the playstation store you can't download it anymore if I'm a consumer and I paid thirty bucks extra to play game three days early and then I can't I'm expecting a refund or something but I mean this is just.

31:27.56
tanomsak
This is cyberpunk all over again.

31:32.83
Jaime G
Ah, another dude this is cyberp punk all over again and then there's like a lot more controversy around this game because we all talked about how people who were getting early review codes everyone was saying hey the game the cuts scenes the great. The.

31:33.14
sentfrmheaven
Right.

31:50.60
Jaime G
The dialogue is hilarious, but the game is actually easy man right? So get this I Gn which is a really well-res respectced outlet. They were literally told you guys will not get a review a review code. Um, Because. You guys did it gave us you know, bad bad press.

32:11.35
tanomsak
Yeah, they had an early access to the game they they they ran that story under at Ign did not speak globally that they weren't necessarily super critical. They just.

32:18.70
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah, too kindly right? No you you know what they said because I read it. They said what I've played so far I'm not liking.

32:29.26
tanomsak
Like.

32:37.53
Jaime G
They they they they didn't go and say hey this game is terrible right? which they could have but now now that actually you know that's that actually brings into question now the integrity of the outlets that review these games are they giving out good reviews just because they're going to you know, get. No more games to review.

32:56.39
tanomsak
Well to to be fair, Let's let's take a look at this. They may have been instructed like ah they were given this opportunity to play the game with the instruction saying look you can play the game. But this is not a review copy for you to play this is for you to play and please refrain from making a judgment right? Just show the gameplay right? and when he said I'm not liking it that the. That's him making borderline Judgment. Ah.

33:36.54
Jaime G
Well, ah, okay, so so here's other stuff that happened right? So there was a review embargo on a lot of people which is not not like big outlets but like just streamers who got the. Ah, you know review review codes and there was on um, a review embargo. So when this whole Ign debacle started. Rock study says hey let's tell all these other people to actually you know give us their their feedback because you know we need to level out with this this one bad 1 and guess what? the the streamers started saying oh it's not that good either. Ah so it exploded on in their face and now fast forward a week the game launches with this game. It's not really game breaking but you.

34:18.52
sentfrmheaven
Right? yeah.

34:32.58
Jaime G
Basically, it's like when you start playing Bat I'm gonna use this a game in the same franchise Batman Archam asylum you've completed the main campaign you're just you know going out there completing all the random stuff that you didn't do with during your playthrough. It's that. Posphitetes are done. Oh you can't do any of the tutorials you don't know what you're doing but you'll res saw the the the end game.

34:58.00
tanomsak
Yeah, so this is like a combination of ah cyber punk and red fall like we're gonna get like a year and a half of ah 2 years of them like trying to make up like. Development of this game like oh here here's this update here's this update here's this update.

35:18.60
Jaime G
I mean but this is ah this is ah a tough one to come back from right because they reviewed the game. They sorry they delayed the game a year they said that this game was not going to be a game as a service and then it turns out that they spent a whole. Chunk of time within that year scrapping out all the stuff that was games as a service and now these things happen and the fact that because it's always online if you buy the game and they haven't fixed this within 48 hours of us airing this. You're not going to be able to play that game that you just bought and that's the whole story here. You bought a game you have it. You can't play it right.

36:03.77
sentfrmheaven
I and I blame the consumer because if they listen to our podcast. They were no when we talked about only subscription what it meant you know like if if you know like the internet go out or you someplace that don't have wi-fi you can't play the game. You just have.

36:20.60
Jaime G
It right right? and and and actually a lot of the a lot of what we're seeing today is kind of going in ah in a direction where now games and I'm going to steal this quote from somebody.

36:21.89
sentfrmheaven
Ah, a huge paperweight.

36:24.48
tanomsak
Ah.

36:35.56
Jaime G
Games are just basically your physical games. Physical Cds are just like an unlock key for the games that you're buying right because I was I I was caught on this right? remember when I bought call of duty modern warfare too. It's pointless you can't play that game without downloading.

36:47.12
sentfrmheaven
I.

36:53.61
Jaime G
Everything this Cd is only a key I I complain about it. Yeah.

36:55.85
sentfrmheaven
You yeah and that's crazy like you know like you said like you got to download again. What am I download and that's what the this is for that's like you put you know back in the egg putting a Cd in your car and your radio has to download it before it plays it like no like this is the files. This is it.

37:04.90
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

37:11.13
Jaime G
And this this is it.

37:15.53
sentfrmheaven
Ah should be able to just put it in start rolling like downloading right.

37:18.23
tanomsak
Yeah, but so many games have like a gigabyte update on the day that you put it in like a gigabyte. That's no, that's not a small amount of data like why was it that on the game when you shipped it. Ah.

37:30.36
sentfrmheaven
Right? right.

37:30.46
Jaime G
I yeah I so so so what's what's yours yours prediction can rockstar turn it back turn it around within two days or is the damage image already done.

37:43.80
tanomsak
Now I mean not in our current I mean du looking even cyberpunk. Even they that their last update is was hailed as this great dlc or whatever you know,? whatever this was I'm like I'm not I wasn't interested because of that initial bad. Kind of taste with the game like ah um, I'm sure somebody out there will buy it but I'm not not going back to that game and in the way the games are coming out right now like literally part part of the I think the industry wos right now where there are so many layoffs going on across the industry.

38:07.45
Jaime G
I I mean up I'm.

38:08.61
sentfrmheaven
Right.

38:22.42
tanomsak
Is like there are so many projects and so many games releasing ah that you have a very tiny window to make a profit right? Like if you if you don't right? and if you don't hit it.

38:32.73
Jaime G
Yeah, the the majority of the game sales happen in the first six to eight weeks of of the game's life.

38:39.24
sentfrmheaven
So right.

38:42.31
tanomsak
And that window I mean it's gonna be very very hard to come back from it I mean um yeah, it's just the way things are right now. There's so many games coming out.

38:46.13
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, and right right.

38:48.40
Jaime G
I I mean anybody who's pre-ordered the game right now you can be like I can still cancel my order and not be caught on this and yeah.

38:59.12
tanomsak
Yeah, so.

38:59.35
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, because I mean yeah, definitely how fast they respond with especially like said people that pay the extra 30 how fast they respond with that with that with that 30 back am or because now it's not just about the 30 It's am or.

39:09.95
Jaime G
And that's the and more and more that's the thing now because that and that I think 1 thing is to say hey here's your $30 back, but it's like how do you make it up for those gamers. That's that's lost lost brand name reputation faith in in your product. Right? You I think that rock stated is under a heavy amount of pressure right now to do something in the next forty eight hours and that.

39:37.48
sentfrmheaven
Oh yeah, because you figured the the the the safety net that was there, you try to bypass which is your review codes which is your test and which is going to give you the utmost like truth about your product and give you time to fix it. But you wanted to bypass that because you knew what the product you was gonna put out and then now we're here like say you have a very very very small window to turn that around.

39:58.98
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

40:08.52
tanomsak
Yep, the other side of exploding. Ah, ah yeah.

40:10.65
Jaime G
Yeah, right, Some games have exploded in a good way.

40:10.66
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, right, right? right? right? and and and and I mean to to anybody that that hears this I mean as consumers as people that indulge in game we have you know that responsibility say hey this is a bad product. Because the more pressure that we pushed back on them to to like you know, learn from like you said you had ah you had ah the cyber punk and then you had red fall and it's like you have all these examples of how not to do it and you did it anyway. So now. Yeah, you gotta give me my 30 back.

40:49.10
tanomsak
The.

40:49.31
Jaime G
I think I think I think we as consumers we have a big voting. We have a big voice and that's with our wallets. Unfortunately, that's the only way that some of these publishers or companies will learn. Don't buy something because specifically this.

40:49.39
sentfrmheaven
And or.

41:07.40
Jaime G
It would it. It doesn't happen or it happens less or there's more safety and it's put in place to prevent it from happening but we're very good at buying a product saying oh well I'm going to wait for several days till you know there's like a 30 gig download. It's cool. Yeah.

41:22.19
tanomsak
The.

41:22.61
sentfrmheaven
It right? right? I mean that's that's that's sexly records it like you know Tony said every time you get something like there's not 1 game that we've bought since next Gen has come out where it's just ready to play It's always an update It's always a patch year. You know it's always a tweak here. So it's like yeah like no like. You said this was ready to go you know and if it wasn't ready to go push it back. You know, but but you know like you said games are coming out too close together to 4 you know like you want me to run a spin seventy here. 50 here thirty here like all in like a month span like. No, whoever has the best game that I like that's who's gonna get it and like you said we have to start talking with the wallets. You know like no like no you know you didn't give enough review codes out, you didn't lift the embargo fast enough for me to make a decision I'm going to the guy who did.

42:16.26
Jaime G
Well and see here's the thing. There's like such a big crunch to so to sell something on a certain day that people can say hey in the terms of physical we can ship out a a product. And it's still going to be like in shipping storage or something for a couple days so I still have like some extra time to fix it and the only way that I can fix that is with a day one. Update.

42:45.36
sentfrmheaven
E.

42:47.79
tanomsak
Oh all, right? Well before we wrap up the show we got ah we got 1 more question. We're gonna throw out there for our panel this comes in from one of our fans. Do you have a game day ritual. What needs to be perfect before sitting down for a play session guys. Ah.

43:13.33
sentfrmheaven
I Ah great hi gray hi go hi.

43:16.00
Jaime G
I'm ah I'm gonna go first. Okay, so if I really want to have a good legit gaming session. My game day ritual is the following my son better be asleep because I'm no interruptions.

43:27.55
tanomsak
No interruptions.

43:32.77
Jaime G
Because I'm I'm playing right recently I've been playing final fantasy or other games that I'm this last final fantasy is quite mature compared to the other ones that ah that actually came out as far as language. There's like some questionable places that. Your campaign will meet up at and um, my gaming ritual is my son better be asleep and I better have a ah Dr Pepper there with me.

44:01.96
sentfrmheaven
You absolutely absolute Oh yes, hey absolutely you got to you got to walk the house make sure everybody's occupied enough. You know I'm a whisper this talk to the spouse First you know, get rid of time you know.

44:04.14
tanomsak
Somebody else had that ritual. Ah.

44:11.30
Jaime G
Yes.

44:20.80
sentfrmheaven
They you know got get you drink I gotta make sure I got enough ice you know makes my drink cold you know and you know get down makes my chairs comfy. You know control is charged up and ah I'm ready to go ready to go.

44:24.65
Jaime G
So.

44:38.32
tanomsak
Very sensible all right my ritual. Oh I want to steal from you vance like if I'm coming home from work right? Ah first step.

44:54.30
sentfrmheaven
Absolutely right? Very short.

44:54.38
tanomsak
Talk to the spouse right? Yeah, talk to spouse? Yeah right? right? Yeah, right check in make sure everything's okay, wait for the.

44:54.64
Jaime G
You? Yeah yeah, you can't you can never not do that your game in session will be cut short for days.

45:10.24
tanomsak
Opportunity when they're engaged in a Tv show and say hey I'm gonna go upstairs all right once you get upstairs got to have a Coke I have my refrigerator upstairs refrigerator I pull out nice Coke ah before I do I that though. Ah.

45:15.16
sentfrmheaven
Her. Ah.

45:20.17
Jaime G
You there you go? yeah.

45:28.84
tanomsak
I would have already changed into like some comfortable clothing. Ah right? Yep comfortable clothing ah have my phone have my phone next to me right? ah have my Coke ah turn the light out.

45:30.41
sentfrmheaven
As yes, very poor, very poor.

45:35.16
Jaime G
I Something warmed this time of year and.

45:48.57
tanomsak
And yeah, make sure I have my controller and then you lean back in the chair and then ah and just just play whatever game on point we want to play but that's the ritual and if it's a long play session like oh I'm playing all day right right.

46:02.32
Jaime G
I like baldurskate 3

46:04.20
sentfrmheaven
I.

46:07.89
tanomsak
I got ah I got to clean the room. The rooms got to be perfect like no mess I got I get him have dirt on the floor I got a vacuum all that up like right? a lot of candle. No I don't light candle.

46:23.30
Jaime G
I.

46:26.94
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, ah not the can. But.

46:28.60
tanomsak
Ah, right now we're gonna be here for a while we make sure you know I got snacks. Yeah, you gotta have snacks drinks, clean room and then then I can yeah.

46:31.15
sentfrmheaven
But yeah, yeah, yeah, deckly finger food. Definitely finger food. Yeah.

46:35.60
Jaime G
The snacks. Yeah see I could do without the snacks but the drink is is a must.

46:43.23
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, quick session you know about the hour to drink is fine anything longer than that maybe a little pizz of rolls. You know something so I can just you know real quick. You know is real quick.

46:45.26
tanomsak
Then I'm set.

46:55.62
tanomsak
Yeah, so yeah, that's ah, that's my ritual if you have your own ritual if you're listening to a show. Be sure to join our Discord server and let us know in the comments in the in the general chat discussion there. What's your ritual is so.

47:11.23
tanomsak
That does it for tonight's episode. Thanks again for joining us here tonight on good to game radio. Um, if you haven't joined the Discord server be sure to join there joining on the great discussion there. Great community. We have there. Ah.

47:30.37
tanomsak
Get input and ah you know just have a good time on the server. There also be sure hit to like button if you're listening to this on I think we might be having a Youtube channel going up ah sooner or later and subscribe if you're on Twitch. Ah, subscribe if you are on a podcasting app that has that feature or just like us. Be sure to follow us share us with your friends and ah we will catch you guys in the next episode bye.

48:02.69
Jaime G
And enjoy.

48:03.14
sentfrmheaven
Later.


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