The Random Game Discussion Episode

In this episode Jaime and Tony talk about Black Myth: Wukong, Star Wars Outlaws, Astro Bot and more.

Transcript

00:00.01
Jaime G
And I told you that the main character is not going to survive. So I already know that.

00:06.75
tanomsak
a All right i Hi everybody, welcome back to good game radio. I'm Tony your host speaking. I'm Joining me again tonight is Jaime and tonight we're just talking a bunch of different topics from alien Romulus to Some new video games are coming out black mithua kong out there shattering records with the 10 millionth ah copy a three-day record setting pace and then other varying topics. So sit back and relax and then just enjoy the show. Jaime, what's going on?

00:46.89
Jaime G
Not much, man. It's good to be here catching up with you on different games, different things that are going on. I am still surprised. Still surprised. I mean, that you didn't take my advice and download the Suicide Squad game. It was for free. You know that we've joked around like, oh, how much are you willing to pay to play this game? And we were like, oh, 20 bucks ish. Oh, it was for free and you still didn't download it.

01:15.46
tanomsak
ah Well, you know, that the that the the reviews were so bad for that game, it wasn't even even worth, you know, trying to see what it was, what it was like. No, really, I just totally forgot.

01:31.85
tanomsak
Actually, i would you know, I would play it for free, for sure.

01:37.06
Jaime G
Well, not anymore because you've missed your window.

01:37.29
tanomsak
You know?

01:41.57
tanomsak
that's That's been pretty common here recently. I've been missing the window a lot on um different stuff. But anyway, yeah. but so Let's get into a some topics, man.

01:56.28
tanomsak
ah So it's been a pretty dry summer, right?

02:01.48
Jaime G
Yes.

02:02.15
tanomsak
Pretty dry summer.

02:02.43
Jaime G
Yes.

02:04.04
tanomsak
Hardly any video game topics worth talking about.

02:10.64
tanomsak
It's just, I don't know, it's like the flip side of last year where there was a game dropping every two weeks for the majority of the year. Now everything dropped early in the year and now we've had this big long stretch with not a whole lot to play. But finally here at the end of August, we've got the Holly anticipated Myth Wukong.

02:36.89
tanomsak
Uh, what's the company that made it a game science. It's a Chinese developer.

02:41.49
Jaime G
I think that's a Chinese company, I'm not sure.

02:43.50
tanomsak
Yeah. Chinese, uh, developer and, um, yeah. Black with Wukong. Like there was excitement with the trailers.

02:55.92
tanomsak
with this game, it's been in development for a few years and, you know, people have talked about it and it's like, ah, you know, it's another, it's another Elder Scrolls imitation, kinda. But from what I've seen of people playing it, it feels more like a Chinese adaptation of God of War, more of an action.

03:22.32
tanomsak
with big action game with big set pieces and stuff from what I've seen. I am looking forward to getting my own copy because a game that sells 10 million copies in three days time. Well, must be something up with it worth checking out. So I'm going to jump on the bandwagon here in the next week or so. Almost bought it today. But I ended up doing some other stuff and I'm like, oh, you know, we got podcasts tonight. So I would just wait another day or two and I'll pick it up.

03:56.72
tanomsak
And give it a try. There was a guy that texted me from work the other day. He's like, he had it in his, uh, cart and he's like, I'm about to buy this. What do you know? I'm like, well, I know that. So to me, the copies and it's, you know, action type game and the word, the scores that I've seen seem to be fairly positive. Um, so yeah, I'm, and I said, I'm going to buy it. So he's like, okay, I'm going to buy it.

04:26.34
tanomsak
So hopefully it's not total total garbage or something. you know Kind of like you see like of the Rotten Tomatoes scores where the reviewers, like the professional reviewers or would give it like you know high marks. before And then the the audience is like, oh, this game's ah this movie's awful. Hopefully it's not like that.

04:50.64
Jaime G
I was, uh, exchanging a little bit in our discord earlier in the week, uh, or actually over the weekend. And I just posted a question like, is anybody playing this? And Jake, I don't know if he goes by Jake or Jack three, uh, responded that he's playing it. And I kind of was probing for some info and asked, is this a soul's like, and he said, it's not a soul's like it's, you kind of have to understand that it's not like, like,

05:20.45
Jaime G
open world-ish, like where you can go anywhere, the boss fights aren't as punishing.

05:26.14
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

05:26.68
Jaime G
It's a little bit linear to some extent, but he's he that the the the plot and the story was interesting. He's he's engaged with it.

05:37.98
tanomsak
OK, so it is kind of more like God of War.

05:38.78
Jaime G
um

05:41.25
tanomsak
so

05:41.92
Jaime G
Right. Now, oddly enough, do you know anything about the the story that this is based on?

05:51.80
tanomsak
No, not really. I don't know. I hardly know anything of um Chinese mythology. Though I keep seeing this reference to Wukong and a whole bunch of different stuff, so I don't i don't know how it all ties in together.

05:59.09
Jaime G
okay well well there's a there's a chinese novel called journey to the west you you ever heard about it okay so this is this is based off of that novel i don't know to what extent it's it's

06:16.32
tanomsak
I've heard of it. When they say West, they're obviously not talking like America.

06:28.81
Jaime G
ah But do you know what other franchise really well known franchise is also based on off a journey to the West loosely?

06:36.60
tanomsak
What?

06:38.03
Jaime G
Dragon Ball.

06:40.88
tanomsak
OK, I'll take your word for it.

06:45.51
Jaime G
Tony, there's already mods for people playing this on PC where they kind of change the skin and skin of the main character to Goku.

06:54.82
tanomsak
OK.

06:56.52
Jaime G
Okay.

06:57.31
tanomsak
So yeah, so this game is primarily PC. It's the main platform. So when you're talking mods, it's yeah for those PC players out there. Interestingly enough, the game is available on PlayStation 5, right?

07:11.03
Jaime G
Uh-huh, yes.

07:13.56
tanomsak
And from what I've seen, it's not terrible, performance-wise. But there is no like Xbox version because of the requirement that all Xbox games have to be able to be played on the Series S.

07:35.92
tanomsak
And the Series S development held this back.

07:35.95
Jaime G
well Well, I'm going to take take that back. i think No, I think, I think there's more to that story actually, where the developers for this game try.

07:44.98
tanomsak
Are you, are you going into Sony paid game science not to put it on xbox. Is this a conspiracy theory.

07:50.40
Jaime G
Yes. It is not a conspiracy theory. It is, it is for real. There was a trailer for this game that said, you know, play it on and it had Xbox listed on it.

08:05.06
Jaime G
And then eventually there was like a different trailer and then they casually seemed to drop that plate on X-Box. And they're like, well, it's because the spec, the system requirements. And then I think somebody leaked it, that it was really because Sony paid them for like the exclusivity to not be on X-Box.

08:28.38
tanomsak
I don't know. Maybe. There seems to be a lot of games following in that category lately.

08:32.13
Jaime G
Tony, I think this is confirmed.

08:37.12
Jaime G
This is confirmed.

08:39.68
tanomsak
OK, well, no Xbox version then.

08:40.99
Jaime G
um

08:45.36
tanomsak
Due to due to unknown reasons.

08:45.47
Jaime G
No.

08:55.46
tanomsak
But yeah, I mean, it looks cool. Uh, and like I told you, I was debating black myth will calm or star Wars, star Wars drops on the 30th.

09:06.88
tanomsak
Uh, that's the open world star Wars that, I mean, right now star Wars is reputation. Hasn't been great, especially post acolyte series.

09:19.45
Jaime G
Right?

09:20.38
tanomsak
Uh, so again, we have, you know,

09:26.30
tanomsak
I don't know. I mean, this game has had seemingly been not well received so far. I guess we have to wait to see how it actually plays, but their there's no excitement. Like for a Star Wars game,

09:48.46
tanomsak
Open world Star Wars game.

09:49.38
Jaime G
Well.

09:50.22
tanomsak
There should be like, man, everybody you remember back when GameStop used to have like, you know, midnight releases and stuff.

09:57.20
Jaime G
Oh, back in the day, man. Yeah.

09:58.71
tanomsak
Back in the day, like I miss those period.

10:02.61
Jaime G
What was the last one that you remember going to?

10:03.08
tanomsak
I miss those times. Call of duty.

10:08.21
Jaime G
I went to a midnight release of like Mortal Kombat X.

10:14.68
Jaime G
and And I felt so out of place, man, because here I am, a guy that was. um It was like around 2015, so. Take nine years off, so here's a guy in his 30s. In the middle of game stuff at midnight with a bunch of teenagers.

10:33.44
tanomsak
Yeah, old man.

10:35.73
Jaime G
I was like, just give me my game, I'm i'm out.

10:37.33
tanomsak
who's to Who's the creepy old guy?

10:39.71
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

10:42.20
tanomsak
Because all old guys are creepy, right? When they're on teenagers.

10:47.38
Jaime G
I don't, I felt like, yeah, I'm definitely out of place here.

10:54.22
tanomsak
But yeah, I don't i don't feel ah that level of excitement for Star Wars game. No, I, I'm interested. I want to, I want to give a try.

11:05.66
tanomsak
Let's see how he goes.

11:05.80
Jaime G
but But you know what's what's, I think what's hurting this game, it hasn't released, but there is a lot of streamers out there. that are actually already bashing this game, saying, Oh, this this game isn't what I thought it was going to be. But here's here's the thing. They're not saying it's a good game or a bad game. They're just saying it's not what they were expecting. So people that have had like early release codes and stuff, they're definitely definitely maybe doing this game at the service.

11:43.55
tanomsak
Well, I mean, that's an interesting topic because there it if you don't give out codes to the reviewers, then people are going to accuse you as, oh, you're hiding. You're hiding something. This game must be trash. um But then if you do give out codes to reviewers and there's so many reviewers that are get codes,

12:14.05
tanomsak
ah And nobody not everybody has the same taste, right? So you're going to get kind of run through the mud by somebody.

12:20.79
Jaime G
I agree.

12:26.06
tanomsak
Unless your game is just universally claimed as being good.

12:26.07
Jaime G
the The thing is that. The thing is that people aren't objective, is what I'm saying. They're they're not great in the game, whether it's good or bad, they're just they're just going into like, oh, this is not a decent follow up to yada, yada, yada. and And it's like give the I mean, I actually think that a lot of the early reviews that are out there are completely done by people who really don't know what they're reviewing.

12:57.94
Jaime G
you know it's like It's like the people who said that Acolyte was good.

12:58.50
tanomsak
You mean yeah they're not familiar with Star Wars? So you're saying that they don't know what Star Wars is?

13:01.72
Jaime G
Yeah. Yes.

13:05.67
tanomsak
Do you have big streamers that, oh, who who doesn't know who so what Star Wars is? Is that a thing?

13:11.77
Jaime G
OK, did you not see the Acolyte? The writers, the showrunners weren't familiar with the source material.

13:15.97
tanomsak
okay

13:20.85
tanomsak
I just find this hard to believe. Yes, I know. I've i've i've heard that they that. They decided to have writers that did not know anything anything anything about Star Wars because they wanted a fresh perspective.

13:35.15
tanomsak
I just don't understand how that's possible.

13:35.21
Jaime G
Yeah. and And you know what they got?

13:37.92
tanomsak
How is that possible?

13:38.17
Jaime G
You know what they got? Acolyte is officially canceled. There will not be a season two.

13:42.66
tanomsak
Yeah, and that's what that's what happened. But just think about that. like You're a writer. You're going into the field of writing, science fiction, the field of writing, right?

13:57.71
Jaime G
The field of writing.

14:02.59
tanomsak
Like, and you've never read a book. ah There are people like that. I'm just saying, there are people that decide to go, I'm ah i'm going to write, but they have never like read their pool of books that they've read is very small.

14:20.54
Jaime G
Bro, I'm gonna be very terrified if I ever meet a pilot who has never flown Hey,

14:26.38
tanomsak
Well, let me tell you, I, there's a lot of pilots out there, man, that they're on the bare minimum of hours.

14:35.32
Jaime G
hey, let's let's not say let's not say anything that gets us fired

14:35.41
tanomsak
Like take the key. take

14:39.95
tanomsak
ah I'm not saying they're, you know, with my company, I'm just saying, you know, just because you're a pilot doesn't mean you're like super genius and to have great ability and everything.

14:44.55
Jaime G
Yeah.

14:53.25
Jaime G
Okay, same same argument.

14:53.45
tanomsak
saying

14:55.71
Jaime G
There's a lot of streamers out there who think that their opinion is a is a decent review of a game. And there and there's a lot of people who are tanking ah Star Wars out right now.

15:12.03
Jaime G
And I think the game is has not been given a fair shot by and a true gamer.

15:12.33
tanomsak
Oh, yeah.

15:18.81
tanomsak
Well, we'll see. I mean, the problem is it's like, oh man, do I drop? I'm sure this is a full price game. Do I drop $69

15:27.45
Jaime G
Oh, every they over this is going to be a full price game.

15:31.55
tanomsak
on it to find out for myself? Like I'm trusting people to give me the true take on it. And there's a couple of there's a couple of reviewers that I trust.

15:45.84
tanomsak
um But even then, a lot of times they're not even they're off on some stuff.

15:47.41
Jaime G
Yeah, what are they saying?

15:53.19
tanomsak
um And so we'll see. You know, so two major games dropping within a week of each other. And so definitely getting one of them.

16:06.10
Jaime G
Wait, wait, wait, what's the other one?

16:07.82
tanomsak
Well, Blacksmith will come.

16:11.27
Jaime G
Well, there's actually technically three major releases that are like within a week of each other.

16:15.25
tanomsak
Oh, yeah, what's the third one? Oh.

16:19.82
Jaime G
My friend, I can't, I cannot believe that you have already discarded Astrobot.

16:20.00
tanomsak
Oh.

16:25.70
tanomsak
Astrobot.

16:27.91
Jaime G
Astrobot, Tony.

16:28.74
tanomsak
Yeah, the the game that comes with the PlayStation.

16:31.87
Jaime G
No, he's getting a brand new adventure. full fledged, you have to pay for it. And Sony's actually releasing a limited edition Astrobot-themed PS5 controller. Now, the big question on everyone's mind is that this controller actually hat is like colored like Astro, and it's got like two so blue circles in the middle path. So everyone's wondering, is this thing going to be blinking at you?

17:04.63
Jaime G
Or is it just color? I mean, here, I mean, really there's people that are like speculating that if this thing blinks on you, this becomes a like in an immediate collector edition because it's, they're only going to release like a limit, a finite number of these controllers.

17:06.21
tanomsak
OK.

17:18.93
tanomsak
OK. Yeah. I knew that they were coming out with the new Astro Bot. How many hours is it? How big a game is this? they The one that comes with PlayStation is, like, what, four hours? So basically, the length of Hillblade.

17:34.16
Jaime G
Okay, yes, but I will tell you I had so much fun with that game My son had so much fun with that game. I bet you we've probably gotten like 20 hours out of that game Yeah No,

17:46.34
tanomsak
OK. Yeah, I mean, I like the game that, you know, came with the PlayStation. It came with the PlayStation 4, too, right? Wasn't there a version that came with the 4?

17:59.38
Jaime G
the PlayStation 4 game was one that was with the PS VR and

18:06.56
tanomsak
There was a PSVR Astrobot.

18:09.40
Jaime G
Yeah.

18:10.68
tanomsak
Yeah, but there was one that came with a the the original PS4.

18:13.87
Jaime G
No.

18:15.44
tanomsak
Are you sure?

18:15.63
Jaime G
Uh-uh, I'm sure.

18:19.91
tanomsak
Hm.

18:21.36
Jaime G
No, my friend.

18:23.49
tanomsak
OK.

18:24.09
Jaime G
No.

18:24.40
tanomsak
Well, yeah, it's a good game because it allows you to utilize the controller. right It maximizes the ah the haptics on the controller because there's like certain levels that are built for certain aspects of the controller.

18:36.93
Jaime G
Yes, they're built for that, right.

18:39.21
tanomsak
Yeah.

18:40.39
Jaime G
I'm telling you Tony, if this controller, if the eyes actually blink, everyone's gonna flip out.

18:40.43
tanomsak
so

18:48.44
Jaime G
I doubt it because the controller's like reasonably overpriced like all their other controllers, so they they're not making any money if they actually added something to do that.

19:00.45
tanomsak
Yeah. um Well, I mean, the that's not the only game. There's another game, too, that just dropped. That was a Sony exclusive, right?

19:12.73
Jaime G
oh Dude oh dude, let's let's not let's forget about this game we have oh Okay, I guess Yes about a week ago Are

19:15.90
tanomsak
Oh, we have to talk about it.

19:20.40
tanomsak
um

19:22.90
tanomsak
Concord.

19:25.58
tanomsak
and just debuted, what, last week? ah And what? Were they wanting like $59 for this game?

19:37.55
Jaime G
you serious no it was it was 40 is 40 bucks I

19:41.14
tanomsak
40?

19:42.83
Jaime G
Yeah.

19:43.57
tanomsak
Would they have been better off as a free to play game?

19:48.47
Jaime G
I don't know, man.

19:49.00
tanomsak
Because there's nobody playing the game.

19:49.11
Jaime G
that you There's nobody playing it.

19:50.99
tanomsak
And it's a mo it's it's a shooter, right?

19:53.82
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

19:54.07
tanomsak
um

19:54.72
Jaime G
It's like a Destiny wannabe.

19:57.16
tanomsak
Yeah, it's a floaty Destiny style PVP.

20:07.52
tanomsak
um It had like a open beta like three weeks ago.

20:12.77
Jaime G
Yep.

20:13.37
tanomsak
And there wasn't a lot of like excitement about it.

20:16.80
Jaime G
Okay.

20:18.05
tanomsak
And then

20:18.08
Jaime G
Okay. It, it, it debuted, Tony, the day that this game launched with 697 players on steam on steam, my friend.

20:32.93
Jaime G
I mean, it, Sony doesn't really give out their internal numbers, but steam is a really good, you know, it's a good level to tell you how, how well or not well something's doing.

20:45.83
tanomsak
Yeah, there's like, you know, 40 million, 40, 50 million PS fives out there. And there's probably only like a few hundred, a few hundred people playing.

20:54.38
Jaime G
Oh, okay. I've got a recent, recent update. That's that was published 26 minutes ago. 100 138 active players.

21:07.92
tanomsak
that's

21:09.30
Jaime G
That's dead.

21:10.67
tanomsak
That's. That's 10 lobbies. Like you can't even play the game. a game that's multiplayer.

21:17.76
Jaime G
Yeah, that game's dead.

21:18.47
tanomsak
Like, literally, you can't even get into a game with real people.

21:19.35
Jaime G
Let's

21:24.56
Jaime G
You know that probably Warner Brothers is now celebrating saying we don't have the worst game of the year out there?

21:32.63
tanomsak
But was it a bad game? I mean, I never heard anybody say it was a bad game. I mean, I like Destiny's PvP with its floating mechanics and how it works. But You could just play Destiny or any of the other ah shooters that are more well established with bigger player bases.

21:55.94
Jaime G
You mean like Overwatch 2?

21:56.19
tanomsak
to and Yeah, exactly. Like these are hero based.

22:00.71
Jaime G
Which is free to play?

22:04.43
tanomsak
Hero based shooters where each each character has a different play style and different abilities and stuff like that. Yeah, it's Overwatch.

22:15.55
tanomsak
Overwatch is toxic. That's super, super toxic. ah But yeah.

22:20.30
Jaime G
Just don't play this to turn on your microphone.

22:24.16
tanomsak
um And then you had the news.

22:26.55
Jaime G
Speaking of which.

22:27.81
tanomsak
But you do you think, what could have contributed to this, especially on Steam, is the fact that Steam sent out invite. I know you said you didn't get one, but I did get one.

22:40.27
tanomsak
um It was an invite to their yet to be disclosed

22:40.39
Jaime G
hu

22:46.48
tanomsak
Overwatch clone style shooter. um Now I can't even remember what it's called, a deadbolt or something like that. ah And I don't play PC games really, except if they get the green check mark on Steam Deck, which, ah since it was free, I did open it up and install it on my Steam Deck. And and you can play it on a Steam Deck.

23:13.01
tanomsak
ah but

23:14.00
Jaime G
Of course, the Steam Deck is the console killer.

23:17.03
tanomsak
Yeah. So, um, but there was anything there that was like, Oh, this is like an overwatch. It's, you know, so with some interesting, like a maneuvering, uh, things where you get around a board on like rails or something like that. But there wasn't anything like.

23:35.46
tanomsak
would make me think, oh, this is the next big thing. This is just another, again, Overwatch game. But there's 90,000 people playing that. Of course, they got the free invite.

23:48.08
Jaime G
Right.

23:50.19
tanomsak
so ah But it's got a player base. Really? And I think I concord charging even $40 for their game.

24:03.85
tanomsak
when Overwatch is is also free to play, right? Is it Valorant,

24:07.41
Jaime G
Yes, overall, it's just free to play.

24:10.03
tanomsak
free to play? ah these ah ah this All competitors are free to play.

24:11.66
Jaime G
Yeah.

24:14.19
tanomsak
So why I'm going to drop $40 something dollars and on this. It's like, doesn't really make a lot of like strategic sense. Like they really just like, oh, came in thinking that people were going to pay money to play their game.

24:32.72
Jaime G
Yeah. I mean, why do people think that? I mean, they they're just like, Hey, we're, we're, we're going to put out a game on PlayStation. People will buy.

24:42.65
tanomsak
Yeah. 200 people, 200

24:44.95
Jaime G
you policy Yeah, they were right. um Hey.

24:48.05
tanomsak
people bought it or no, they got the free invite.

24:52.02
Jaime G
But hey, look, let's let's talk about this this genre.

24:52.27
tanomsak
and

24:55.30
Jaime G
There's a game that I myself, whenever I first saw announced, I thought, this is such an Overwatch clone and I don't care for it. And this is Marble Rivals. However, the more and more I see about this, the more of the characters that I see playing in there.

25:13.67
Jaime G
I'm actually now changing my my previous opinion and I'm kind of excited about this game.

25:20.33
tanomsak
ah Overwatch clone with Marvel characters.

25:23.29
Jaime G
and There you go. that that's the That's the difference. It is an Overwatch clone. It's also free to play. All the characters, they they actually have a recent announcement that says this game is going to have all the characters unlocked from day one with new characters coming in, you know, in the roadmap.

25:37.86
tanomsak
Oh dude, it's going to be a smashing success. It's got Marvel characters.

25:44.28
Jaime G
Exactly, because because it has recognizable characters that, again, when i what I've been seeing about the gameplay, they really made sure that the characters play in some way or fashion like their comic book counterparts.

26:00.45
tanomsak
Right.

26:00.62
Jaime G
So i really i I'm actually really excited about this.

26:03.46
tanomsak
Well, there's not a lot of video games out there that cover all the superheroes, right?

26:04.41
Jaime G
we're

26:07.91
tanomsak
The only like, you know, the really popular ones like Spider-Man and Iron Man.

26:12.53
Jaime G
Right, right. Uh huh.

26:15.77
tanomsak
Well, the new Wolverine is under development. But even then, yeah.

26:20.11
Jaime G
It's leaked.

26:22.89
Jaime G
Yeah.

26:23.46
tanomsak
Yeah, you can't play like the only game that allows you to kind of play is a uh with any of the marvel characters was that one that kind of flopped the avengers game yeah i played it it was it well it was supposed to be a looter shooter right it's like supposed to be loot based game and there wasn't any there's hardly any loot uh

26:34.87
Jaime G
Yeah, but they have you played it? I played it for a good three hours and I thought this is I mean,

26:47.22
Jaime G
it's It's.

26:52.05
Jaime G
Man, I played, I gave it a fair shot after playing it for a couple hours. I was like, this is just not a good game.

26:58.77
tanomsak
Yeah, so.

27:00.71
Jaime G
I mean, it had production value. It had a good studio behind it, but they just didn't make a good game.

27:08.46
tanomsak
Yeah, and the like the main character was what, Miss Marvel.

27:11.63
Jaime G
Miss marble.

27:13.71
tanomsak
Yeah, that's kind of like. That was the main starting character you started off as.

27:19.13
Jaime G
right right so hey marble rivals at another game that's gonna be just like what is it Concord Valorant whatever overwatch yeah to need let's organize like some some gaming sessions around this one when it comes out I'll take some vacations it's free you to play list let's just game it and this is like crush it I

27:28.83
tanomsak
Yeah, all the other ones, Overwatch. Yeah, I mean, it's free to play, right?

27:47.21
tanomsak
That sounds good. We could have an on-discord tournament.

27:48.99
Jaime G
Hey, I've got a a bit of news that I didn't really remember to tell you about before we um that when when we started recording.

28:03.99
tanomsak
oh

28:04.15
Jaime G
I don't know if you saw that the Call of Duty Black Ops 6 got leaked.

28:14.89
tanomsak
ah I didn't see a leak. I mean, I know that it's coming up. You know, you can order pre-order the game and there's a beta weekend and stuff all in the works and stuff.

28:26.81
tanomsak
I have seen all that.

28:27.48
Jaime G
No, no, no. It's it's some somehow the game got leaked. You can download it like on torrent sites. I don't know how you have to like jailbreak your PlayStation to play this.

28:36.58
tanomsak
Oh, the whole game.

28:39.82
Jaime G
Yes. Go go to YouTube right now. There's like hours and hours of like multiplayer all the cutscenes for the single player campaign.

28:51.74
Jaime G
The zombies part hasn't leaked. But the game's out.

28:56.04
tanomsak
Okay.

28:57.44
Jaime G
I mean, here's the thing. I mean, I don't know what you got to do to play this, but it is out.

29:01.46
tanomsak
Okay.

29:06.05
Jaime G
And and and Ubisoft is yeah ah trying to do a lot of damage control at this moment.

29:14.53
tanomsak
Wait, Ubisoft?

29:16.21
Jaime G
Wait, wait, wait, sorry. What is it, Activision? Sorry.

29:19.06
tanomsak
Activision. Yeah, I was like, wait, does the developer change?

29:20.35
Jaime G
Yeah, my bad.

29:24.09
Jaime G
It's a bootleg, man, anything can go.

29:26.10
tanomsak
Yeah.

29:27.76
Jaime G
Activision, sorry, they're they're like trying.

29:29.43
tanomsak
Ubisoft hacked it hacked into Activision, took the code, took the code and then just slapped their name on it ah and put it out as a Ubisoft game.

29:38.49
Jaime G
They they are like completely like they're like going and shutting down YouTube channels that are posting up like game game content, cut scenes and whatever.

29:51.85
Jaime G
So but

29:51.89
tanomsak
I mean, Call of Duty, you like it's not going to be that much different than any other Call of Duty.

29:59.29
Jaime G
Yeah. Oh, um sure. Right.

30:02.91
tanomsak
Especially the way they're doing it now. right It's like, oh, it's just like an upgrade to the previous one.

30:08.48
Jaime G
No, i I think I think that that's not going to happen this time.

30:08.77
tanomsak
It's all a fancy DLC.

30:12.03
Jaime G
I don't think that that's going to have this is going to be a brand new game all your skins and whatever I doubt that they will port over.

30:20.75
tanomsak
Oh, cause he wants you to buy more skins.

30:26.76
tanomsak
Yeah. I don't know, man.

30:26.90
Jaime G
So I am I am, um you know, this year, last year around the December timeframe, which it was usually when I take like my long stretch of vacation days, I gained call of duty, like, dude, I was waking up like, like at 5am and playing this all morning long.

30:45.02
tanomsak
Yeah.

30:45.70
Jaime G
And then while my son, my son was still going to school, I would wake up, play, get him to school, come back and play, pick him up from school. I think this year I'm not going to do that with Call of Duty. I'm going to invest my time in Marvel Rivals this year.

31:03.12
tanomsak
All right, yeah, I don't even know if I'm gonna play Call of Duty. I'll be curious, but I don't know.

31:07.96
Jaime G
yeah You're going to play a game pass.

31:09.26
tanomsak
I'm thinking about canceling my game pass.

31:15.13
Jaime G
You've been saying that same song for five months.

31:17.73
tanomsak
I canceled it at one point, and I re-upped it for Hellblade. And I don't know why.

31:26.00
Jaime G
Oh, you must have been so disappointed.

31:29.90
tanomsak
Right. Uh, yeah, so I don't know.

31:33.26
Jaime G
Oh, man. All right. So, Tony, the other thing I've got here on my list is, have you seen the trailer for a Secret Level?

31:45.27
tanomsak
Uh, partially because you just mentioned to mention it to me before the show started and I looked and it was, it's like, um, anthology of really nice anime stories, right?

32:01.93
Jaime G
Yes, yes. So i theyre I think it's not been fully defined what all the games are gonna be around, but they're gonna be doing like an episode around different video game franchises can from people reviewing and rewinding the the the trailer.

32:21.65
tanomsak
Yeah.

32:29.94
Jaime G
They've already discovered that there's going to be an episode around arwork Armored Core, which you play Firez of Rubicon, right?

32:37.03
tanomsak
Yeah.

32:37.66
Jaime G
ah Dungeons and Dragons, War Hammer, Mega Man, believe it or not, Concord.

32:48.35
tanomsak
Really?

32:50.01
Jaime G
Yes, sir. they might They might cancel that episode. I don't know.

32:54.60
tanomsak
Yeah.

32:55.60
Jaime G
God of War, The Outer Worlds, and Pac-Man.

33:01.74
tanomsak
Okay. Pac-Man. That'll be interesting.

33:05.00
Jaime G
This is interesting, right?

33:06.45
tanomsak
That's nostalgic. Pac-Man? Okay.

33:09.09
Jaime G
Yeah, well, but but they changed the way how Pac-Man looks. He's kind of like wearing this robe and they they're taking some artistic ah choices in how they're representing their characters, but it is Pac-Man.

33:19.61
tanomsak
and Okay. Okay. Gotcha.

33:26.76
Jaime G
I mean, how have you have you seriously thought about like

33:27.17
tanomsak
Okay.

33:31.00
Jaime G
ah In years past, the gaming culture, oh, by the way, Borderlands flopped. The gaming culture before was like for, you know, the those kids who were like, a minority and like the school then. Now, there's like all this stuff that's being developed intentionally for people who grew up gaming, right?

33:54.99
Jaime G
You and I are gonna appreciate a lot of these things. My son is probably, he's gonna appreciate the Mega Man episode. He's not gonna get who Pac-Man is. He might see some other episodes. I mean, depending on the tone of the show, I might not let him watch it, but there's like so much material that's being developed actively for people who are gamers.

34:21.48
tanomsak
Oh, yeah, I mean, that's kind of like what everybody does, right? Game or. Watch.

34:35.50
tanomsak
Game based or pop culture type stuff like superheroes and stuff like that, so. And it's proven that, you know, you can pretty much put anything out there and that segment of the audience is gonna come by it.

34:52.84
tanomsak
So that's true.

34:54.40
Jaime G
unless if ah Unless it was a Borderlands movie.

34:59.32
tanomsak
But ah when we saw the trailers for Borderlands, what months ago?

35:04.84
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

35:05.87
tanomsak
I think we all agreed that the casting was wrong.

35:09.84
Jaime G
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

35:12.73
tanomsak
Like, I don't know who over at the studio ah signed off on the casting but you know they they that's the movie tanked right there because the casting was wrong yeah right yeah that's that's probably the only

35:27.82
Jaime G
Yes. I absolutely remember us saying this. I mean, I think we we might have just liked that Jack Black was the voice for Claptrap, but that was as much as we all kind of said, okay, this is decent.

35:46.10
tanomsak
one that kind of fit the character they'd be playing.

35:51.01
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

35:52.39
tanomsak
But yeah, I mean, I can't even remember the care of the the actresses name that they have.

35:58.18
Jaime G
Jamie Lee Curtis.

35:59.41
tanomsak
james Yeah. Well, I'm like, really? ah what What's with the old actresses? You know, I'm not don't get have anything against her as an actress.

36:10.77
Jaime G
Right.

36:11.71
tanomsak
But why this role? This makes no sense.

36:15.83
Jaime G
No. And then Kate Blanchett playing Lilith. Lilith in the game is in this like woman in her 40s or 50s.

36:24.61
tanomsak
Right. Like they totally did not understand ah this material.

36:26.31
Jaime G
All right, exactly.

36:34.24
tanomsak
ah This is like, we just want to make a movie and not make any money back on it at all. And it's just, I don't know.

36:44.47
tanomsak
I just don't get it.

36:45.02
Jaime G
Well,

36:45.23
tanomsak
But this then we get acolyte again. We go back to acolyte.

36:50.75
tanomsak
Like, There's people in charge making decisions that are out of touch with the people that they're supposed to be making the material for.

37:00.51
Jaime G
that's correct that is uh maybe maybe now

37:02.13
tanomsak
I feel like I could go get a job in Hollywood.

37:13.69
tanomsak
Sorry.

37:16.60
Jaime G
one thing one thing that i was like always curious was about uh the character that was gonna play the oh man what's his name Creed Creek, the psychopath. I think the guy that plays it is the guy that's in in one of the Creed movies.

37:43.11
tanomsak
ah really Oh, really? I don't know.

37:44.79
Jaime G
Yeah, the the son of Victor Dragon. I think it's the same dude.

37:53.36
Jaime G
Yeah, that dude's big man.

37:59.20
tanomsak
These actresses, actors, they just wish they could wipe this movie off their resume.

37:59.58
Jaime G
So.

38:04.94
tanomsak
That wasn't me.

38:04.99
Jaime G
I'm sure.

38:09.39
Jaime G
But you know, ah all actors as they're starting have had like that one major flop in their career. um What's the name that's been in every that the guy has been in everything Paul Rudd.

38:22.64
tanomsak
Right?

38:22.80
Jaime G
He was in one of like the the Halloween movies.

38:29.29
tanomsak
Really? I mean, Halloween's a pretty good series, though.

38:29.89
Jaime G
Yeah.

38:33.24
Jaime G
Yeah, but he was in one of the not so good movies.

38:36.88
tanomsak
There's so many Hollywood movies, though. It's like, what, 11 or 12?

38:41.39
Jaime G
Yeah, there's like 50.

38:46.24
tanomsak
It's a series that you can just put out every October. I know that you're just, there's a pre-made audience there ready every Halloween.

38:49.84
Jaime G
Yeah.

38:53.06
Jaime G
Yeah.

38:54.43
tanomsak
Let's go watch Halloween.

38:55.16
Jaime G
so is like Now, you know what they did? It's, it's, it's saw. If it's Halloween, it must be saw.

39:00.47
tanomsak
Oh man. I cannot watch that type of horror movie. There's just nothing appealing to me. I mean, I know that it has people that are really like it, but.

39:13.19
tanomsak
Just watching people getting dismembered and so like that was just, like that's not entertaining at all for me.

39:19.90
Jaime G
Well, well that's that's the whole appeal.

39:20.77
tanomsak
There's no, yeah, I know. That's like making you squirm as somebody, you know, as people go through some of the stuff. i like Yeah. Yeah.

39:32.16
tanomsak
I did watch, Hey, I watched a show. There's got at work. I got, got me turned onto it.

39:36.93
Jaime G
Oh no.

39:36.98
tanomsak
And by the time this episode airs, you probably won't be able to see it for free anymore because it's on Amazon prime. Um, when it's got like five days left before it rolls off the service and it's gone from, have you ever heard of it?

39:53.54
Jaime G
No, what is this about?

39:55.40
tanomsak
OK, now he kind of like related to lost, but is nowhere near lost. OK, it's not the same thing at all. This is so you've probably seen this idea before where in horror movies where you try to escape like the house or the mansion and you drive down a road, but the road takes you right back to the house.

40:18.92
Jaime G
Absolutely.

40:19.92
tanomsak
You've seen that concept, right? So the concept is the 1,001 times here is there is a town ah that once you, you, when you're driving, you'll come across like a tree that's fallen over the road and you can't get past it because it's a ginormous tree.

40:21.47
Jaime G
Yeah. a thousand times.

40:42.84
tanomsak
And then you turn around. to find an alternate way. It's usually in the secluded area when you come across this tree where the road takes you to a town. And when you drive through the town, you just come back to the town.

40:58.63
tanomsak
So you're trapped you're trapped in the loop, right?

41:01.44
Jaime G
Mm hmm.

41:02.08
tanomsak
And everybody that lives in a town are people that were trapped in this loop. And they are now part of the population.

41:13.48
tanomsak
Well, the key, the the thing about it is at night, once the sun sets, monsters come out. And if you're caught outside your home or your house or whatever you're at,

41:34.21
tanomsak
Without the doors being secured and the windows being secured and a talisman placed over your door frame Then these monsters will get into your house and kill you basically ah So that is the premise right?

41:41.95
Jaime G
ah

41:50.61
tanomsak
It's like these people were trapped in the town with no escape and at night monsters come out and they're like vampires vampires like monsters where they like will try and whisper to you through the walls and the windows and stuff to to open the door and let them in.

42:07.14
Jaime G
Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh.

42:09.47
tanomsak
So they can't come in as long as you have the talisman up. and and ah Actually, the windows and doors don't have to be locked if you have a talisman up.

42:23.67
tanomsak
um so but if a talisman gets knocked down or are removed, then they can get in, even if you don't invite them in.

42:33.92
Jaime G
ah

42:35.27
tanomsak
um So, yeah, so that's the show. It's like, ah the and the talent is kind of subdivided into two groups of people.

42:46.15
tanomsak
ah

42:47.96
Jaime G
The guys that live in the guys that don't

42:50.39
tanomsak
Pretty much, no. There's like a like a hippie colony. that live in like a big mansion and then all the regular other towns folk live in like regular houses and stuff and it's a very tiny town and there's a sheriff and a deputy and the show starts with like this family in like a RV and they they're driving through the town and everybody sees them and the

43:06.46
Jaime G
It.

43:10.24
Jaime G
Uh huh.

43:16.92
tanomsak
They don't say anything to these people, right? Because they know, like, there's no point in saying anything to these people because nobody believes them. They have to go through the experience. So the the this family keeps driving around the town and they can't get out. And then they end up getting in a wreck right before sundown.

43:43.32
tanomsak
And yeah, it's great. Dude, this, the first episode kind of freaked me out. It's like, this is actually scary.

43:51.57
Jaime G
Yeah.

43:52.72
tanomsak
Um, so you should check it out before it rolls off. It's on Amazon prom. Check it out. Watch the first episode. Let me think, let me know what you think it's called from.

44:00.20
Jaime G
Okay. So um I saw, I was just looking in this up. Apparently there's two seasons. There's going to be a third season, but season one leaves Amazon in like five days and I cannot see season two because it's locked.

44:18.00
tanomsak
Right. You have to rent it or something. Amazon rentals are cheap, though.

44:21.22
Jaime G
i don't know i don't know if I don't know if I want to start, though. Because if I do get like hooked on this, I'm not going to be able to wrap it up.

44:29.32
tanomsak
What's your first episode? Let me know what you because it it it it was freaky. Like the very first episode like had me kind of I'm like, really? It was a tense.

44:39.54
Jaime G
OK, OK, OK. I'll do this. I commit to to watch this. but let me Let me throw one suggestion on your way.

44:50.87
Jaime G
Have you ever seen Severance?

44:53.52
tanomsak
No.

44:55.19
Jaime G
Do you know what Severance is about?

44:57.41
tanomsak
Cutting people off?

45:03.22
Jaime G
Kinda, I mean, have you already read about this?

45:06.20
tanomsak
No.

45:08.16
Jaime G
All right, so look, Severance follows the the story of a couple people that work in an office. and it's only a group of four people, four. But the whole premise of this show is that to get the job at this location what you're they're working on, by the way, you start not knowing what but they do, they have to go through like this medical procedure that's called the severance procedure. But what it does is that the moment that you go to work, there's like this machine around you basically,

45:45.61
Jaime G
your mind disconnects. So you go to work, and you have no idea who you are outside of work. You don't know if you have a family. You don't know anything.

45:58.86
Jaime G
And when you come out of work, you have no idea what you did all day. you have So you have like two different personalities to keep to keep this work that's in there super secret.

46:09.62
tanomsak
Uh-huh. Okay.

46:11.36
Jaime G
And so the show starts.

46:11.66
tanomsak
That sounds like a lost show.

46:13.99
Jaime G
Well, no, dude. it's it's And you know, the director, I don't know if it's the writer or the director. I think it's director is Ben Stiller, the comedian. Um, but this is a serious show.

46:24.38
tanomsak
Okay.

46:27.23
Jaime G
And so I won't give out too much, but the whole thing starts because out of the group of three or four, one person all of a sudden doesn't come back to work.

46:39.68
Jaime G
And everyone's like, Hey, what happened with Polly? We don't know, but they, so they get this new girl. And New Girl is like like, after the first day, she wakes up and she's like, where am I?

46:52.89
Jaime G
What am I doing here? I don't know who you guys are. So the guy's like, all right, walk away. Go out this door. You're good. Just turn back. and Never come back. But every time she leaves the door, there's she's like panicking and she ends up coming back.

47:09.32
Jaime G
and So you never, this this this is a weird show.

47:11.38
tanomsak
Oh, okay. It sounds like the same thing though. Like something's keeping you trapped there.

47:17.43
Jaime G
Well, there's no vampires though. Yeah.

47:19.93
tanomsak
Yeah.

47:21.11
Jaime G
Like your, your, your boss.

47:26.28
tanomsak
right

47:26.64
Jaime G
I will watch from it's only going to be on Amazon prime for five more days. That gives me a chance to see a couple of episodes. I don't, I don't know if I'll see the whole series, but I'll, but I'll see what I can.

47:32.92
tanomsak
Yeah.

47:36.18
tanomsak
You get a good taste, get a good taste.

47:38.31
Jaime G
Yeah. Sure. I mean, it's nine episodes, 10 actually.

47:42.02
tanomsak
Like a show like that, that would make for a great, I'm like, I'm thinking here, thinking, man, you could almost make a game out of this video game. Like at night you have to like, you know, stay inside, but in the day you go out and you collect the supplies and materials, right?

47:53.53
Jaime G
Well, they're about to.

47:59.49
Jaime G
Silent Hill to.

48:01.25
tanomsak
Okay. Yeah.

48:03.98
Jaime G
Come on, man, come on.

48:05.35
tanomsak
Yeah. Come on video game developers. just Get creative. There's stuff out there you can copy and and make good games.

48:12.65
Jaime G
Yes.

48:15.37
tanomsak
out I don't want to see another hero shooter, except for rivals.

48:19.55
Jaime G
No. Well, that's what people are playing, man. That's that's what gets getting the dinero right now.

48:28.35
Jaime G
That and movies with like 50,000 cameos in it. Oh, speaking of, a good friend of mine tech texted me yesterday and he said, hey, did you watch the Deadpool movie?

48:39.69
Jaime G
I was like, yes. And he's like, what did you, so what do you think about it? So I give him my honest opinion, which is the same I've shared here, but he, uh, no.

48:45.62
tanomsak
You didn't say go check out the episode, the podcast.

48:53.61
Jaime G
That was such a missed opportunity. But he said, um this was such a cash grab. They needed it after all the stuff they had been coming up with. Yes, I agree.

49:09.00
tanomsak
Yeah, it was.

49:11.21
Jaime G
it's it's Sorry, I went off tangent there.

49:15.73
tanomsak
No, but it's true. um

49:20.59
tanomsak
Yeah, I mean, I wanted to kind of get in, I mean, I went, I've been trying to get you guys to go watch Alien Romulus with me.

49:30.48
tanomsak
One of our listeners texted me the other day, like he he listened to the the episode on Deadpool. And he said that we missed a bunch of stuff, but regardless, he talked about Alien Romulus and he loved it.

49:51.38
Jaime G
We missed stuff on Deadpool.

49:53.39
tanomsak
What's that?

49:53.92
Jaime G
I mean, we missed stuff. We, we had more stuff. We just ran out of time to complain about it.

50:00.03
tanomsak
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we could complain more.

50:04.00
tanomsak
um But he and I are in agreement.

50:05.42
Jaime G
For real.

50:09.31
tanomsak
Alien Romulus is a excellent movie for for the franchise. And. Not going to get any details with it right now with a spoiler review.

50:21.67
tanomsak
I'll do that next time. Give you guys one more week, one more week. To try and watch it.

50:28.83
Jaime G
Hey, it's it's a long weekend this weekend and I can probably see it.

50:33.91
tanomsak
That's true. We have a holiday coming up. So check it out.

50:38.79
Jaime G
and

50:40.01
tanomsak
It's worth watch. ah And I want to talk about it, but I don't want to spoil it.

50:47.87
Jaime G
i I want to see it.

50:48.30
tanomsak
It's good.

50:50.50
Jaime G
I definitely want to, but but hey, in my defense, last Monday, you're like, hey, let's go watch this. And I, I can't just like drop what I'm doing as like, family's gonna be like, where are you going?

51:05.50
Jaime G
I'm gonna be like, out, they're gonna be like, out where? And you know, you know, the path that that conversation takes.

51:11.97
tanomsak
Uh-huh, right.

51:14.01
Jaime G
Yeah.

51:15.73
tanomsak
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.

51:16.19
Jaime G
And then, and and then today, you're like, hey, it's one o'clock, let's go watch the movie. Like, dude, we're working.

51:26.14
tanomsak
Right. Well, see, I also have to live with the fact that I have to kind of like wait till the last minute to make a decision on what I'm going to do because I have to see what the other half has got planned for me.

51:39.23
tanomsak
so

51:41.70
tanomsak
It's a lot of just last minute decision making because, you know, we have to see what we've been dedicated to without our knowledge.

51:51.63
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm definitely gonna see this movie over the weekend. I mean, I'm gonna make sure that I get, i I pace out the time and tell tell my family early and advanced, hey, you're not seeing me Saturday morning.

52:08.61
tanomsak
There you go. Oh, Saturday morning. OK.

52:11.89
Jaime G
Yeah. Oh yeah.

52:14.79
tanomsak
Nice.

52:15.15
Jaime G
I'm gonna be a rebel. I'm gonna be that that guy at like that weird hour. and people are here be like, what is this guy doing here?

52:21.20
tanomsak
Well, you won't be creepy, you know.

52:23.33
Jaime G
Now, not like game something midnight.

52:24.89
tanomsak
It's it's in your age group. This movie, this the franchise is in your age group.

52:26.98
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

52:30.02
Jaime G
Yeah, absolutely.

52:30.07
tanomsak
Right. So.

52:31.26
Jaime G
I'll be there.

52:33.10
tanomsak
All right. Well, I think that's it. that we had for tonight. We actually talked about a lot of stuff more than I thought we would talk about, which is cool. of So we're getting into that season where there's going to be more games dropping betas. And oh, we have the final determination, I think, on the draft that we had.

52:58.79
tanomsak
so

52:59.02
Jaime G
Yes, because we're missing Outlaws. That is the one game that we're missing.

53:01.67
tanomsak
Right. That's the last game waiting. We'll have the final numbers on that and see who the winner was, um, for the year. And wait, was there a prize pool?

53:14.14
tanomsak
I don't remember.

53:16.24
Jaime G
Branding rights.

53:17.41
tanomsak
Okay. Bragging rates, but you have to be here.

53:19.88
Jaime G
I think, yeah, I think, I think Vance has a chance if this game rates well, I think he has a chance at taking it.

53:22.66
tanomsak
Okay.

53:28.83
tanomsak
okay We'll see.

53:30.29
Jaime G
I won't, I will give the details of kind of where we all stand, but I think he has a chance if it has the right reviews.

53:40.74
tanomsak
Okay. Well, I don't think I'm in it, but it's probably between you and Vance.

53:46.04
Jaime G
Yeah, you, you made some, some bad choices earlier in the year.

53:50.73
tanomsak
All right. Well, thanks for joining us. And, um, we'll catch you guys later in the next episode. Tommy.

54:01.19
Jaime G
Catch you later, my friend.

54:01.91
tanomsak
Yeah. Talk to you later.

54:04.15
Jaime G
See ya.