The PS5 PRO Revealed. Will We Upgrade?

In this episode, Jaime and Tony are discussing the new PS5 Pro Console reveal and are they going to upgrade to the new system. Also, we dive into games we're looking forward to in the remainder of 2024 and Jaime gives an overview of the Silent Hill 2 Story.

Transcript

00:02.35
tanomsak
Hi folks, welcome back to another episode of Good to Game Radio. I'm here again with Jaime. Tonight we're going to be talking the PS5, the new PS5 Pro coming out on November 7th. Are you getting it? Is it worth it? we So we're going to get into that discussion. Also, Silent Hill 2, some other games coming out here toward the end of the year.

00:26.93
tanomsak
kind of a look forward to that. And you know is there anything that piques our interest and are we interested in playing any of those games? So let's jump in. Homi, what's going on?

00:38.92
Jaime G
Hey, how's it going, man? it's it's It's been a minute since we last talked.

00:43.44
tanomsak
Couple of weeks, yep, yep. I went on a mission trip last week.

00:45.28
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:46.87
tanomsak
I was out of town. And so I was recuperating on our regular recording night. so ria We skipped that week, but now I'm back. I'm ready to go. Ready to go strong at this. You know, and that's, this is jumping to these topics. What do you think? Oh, what, but but first before we jump into the topics, what's going with you?

01:12.86
Jaime G
You know, life, parenthood. um My kid's playing soccer and his school has a lot of activities that I've lately been involved with as far as taking him to those activities.

01:28.43
tanomsak
Ah, yes, the joys of parenthood.

01:29.26
Jaime G
So.

01:31.61
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:31.62
tanomsak
What is he? he'

01:35.46
tanomsak
He's eight, yes.

01:35.65
Jaime G
Eight. Ochul.

01:38.55
tanomsak
Okay, so yeah, you're just ramping up. Well, it just gets better from here.

01:43.17
Jaime G
Holy smokes, you know, hey, I don't know about anyone who has a parent out there and they're gaming, but ever since my son started third grade, which was about a month and a half ago, it's like homework, dude. Before I was just like, sit down, do your spelling list and copy like 15 words. Now it's it's sit down, read about history. I'm learning so much about US history, by the way.

02:13.38
Jaime G
um

02:13.56
tanomsak
Dad, who's George Washington?

02:16.82
Jaime G
The first general of the US Army against the English.

02:22.02
tanomsak
Well, that's true.

02:22.96
Jaime G
Well, one of the generals. Yeah. See, you thought I wasn't going to be able to answer that, but I can I can keep up with a third year old.

02:33.91
tanomsak
Are you smarter than a third grader?

02:35.06
Jaime G
Um, yeah, right. Kinda. Um, so yeah, no, no, no, it's, there's a lot of homework involved with third grade.

02:43.72
tanomsak
oh hey it's just getting started you're just starting dad will you take me to a soccer game walk it'll be good exercise for you it's five miles away okay then you better get it running and

02:48.89
Jaime G
Right. Can you like not care for like 15 years? Yeah. Oh, sometimes I, oh, oh, oh,

03:05.02
Jaime G
so So Tony, the league that my son plays at, they have a mess. They completely have a mess, man. And I was asked to take the tent and this fold out chair for the kids to sit on during a game two weeks ago. And that's because the team managers are only managing the kids of a certain age. And this is, again, why I'm saying it's a mess because they kind of divided up the team after the season had started. Anyway, so I'm i'm being a good guy. I take this big, big old tent, right? We go to a game up in White House. What's the name of that place? Northeast of Nashville?

03:54.36
tanomsak
Yeah, White House sounds all right.

03:56.14
Jaime G
OK. we get rained out man and i'm here volunteering to take this big tent guess guess how many parents are like oh let me help out the guy who's helping our kids out zero everyone's gone it's not my tent um i'm bringing the tent over so so y'all's kids because my son's on the bench actually my son uses it more than them but so y'all's kids can can be in the shade

04:08.49
tanomsak
Oh, zero. They're all gone. Hey, it's your tint, dude. Well, I want to help you. Dude.

04:24.24
tanomsak
Yeah, I feel like ah like there should be like an XP achievement system for parenthood. you know Oh, you who's bringing the snacks this week? Oh, that's twenty eight plus 20 XP for bringing the snacks.

04:45.45
tanomsak
you know, do do five more of these and you get a trophy for, you know, super helper mom, soccer mom, dad.

04:49.58
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

04:53.36
Jaime G
Yeah. So you want your kid to get a trophy at the end of the season? What have you done for me lately?

05:00.65
tanomsak
Yeah.

05:01.88
Jaime G
All right. Anyway, that's parenthood. It is. It's, it's true. You know, it's adulting is hard.

05:08.11
tanomsak
Parenthood, the game.

05:09.86
Jaime G
Yeah.

05:12.64
tanomsak
It's open world survival.

05:12.93
Jaime G
Anyway, that's what I've been doing.

05:14.41
tanomsak
It's open world horror survival game. Parenthood.

05:17.59
Jaime G
Yeah. you're You're trying to duck from the kids looking for you.

05:22.32
tanomsak
The object is to get the baby to an adult, you know, without killing them.

05:23.94
Jaime G
Yeah.

05:29.41
Jaime G
Oh, wait, there there might be like some special missions where the objective is getting to the fridge without being called out by somebody.

05:29.95
tanomsak
yeah

05:39.30
tanomsak
Oh, yeah, there's all yeah it's all kinds of specials.

05:42.49
Jaime G
yeah Yep. Yep.

05:45.11
tanomsak
All right. Well, let's let's jump into it. Oh, but first. Hey, I bought a game.

05:53.88
Jaime G
Oh yeah, you so you you spoke of a game. I mean, i'm I'm actually quite surprised because last time you weren't, you hadn't even bought a replacement PS5 pad.

06:04.80
tanomsak
Well, I have since bought a new controller because mine wasn't working. ah I did buy a new one. Um, uh, uh, uh, a sky blue, whatever we call blue color.

06:18.77
tanomsak
It is kind of like my favorite football team is colors, you know, not to 30 good. So, but the controller works great.

06:26.24
Jaime G
Oh, yeah.

06:28.65
tanomsak
And, um, No, no, I did not.

06:29.74
Jaime G
You didn't happen to catch the Astro themed PS five controller.

06:36.76
tanomsak
Uh, was it $200 for that or something?

06:36.81
Jaime G
Oh.

06:39.69
Jaime G
Now on the on the on the resale market, yes.

06:45.64
tanomsak
No, I didn't get that one.

06:45.76
Jaime G
But if you bought it direct, no. OK, well, so what did you buy?

06:51.78
tanomsak
So I actually wanted to buy Space Marine II Warhammer 40K.

07:04.35
Jaime G
Oh yeah, lots of players.

07:04.92
tanomsak
I wanted to buy that one, but it was sold out. So then I was like, oh, I'll buy Blacksmith Wukong, but it's not available in a physical version.

07:18.93
Jaime G
It's not physical.

07:21.64
tanomsak
So I like it. My wife asked me today, you say, Hey, you want to go to Best Buy? You can buy a game. I'm like, wait, what is up with this? You're coming to me and asking me if I want to go to Best Buy and buy a video game.

07:39.66
tanomsak
I'm like, Am I living in some imaginary world? This is a dream.

07:45.32
Jaime G
I quite, hey, quite frankly, I'd be telling my wife, what did you break?

07:46.48
tanomsak
hi

07:50.54
tanomsak
yeah Right.

07:51.44
Jaime G
Hey, how much is it going to cost me?

07:53.50
tanomsak
Right. So I'm like, yeah, sure. Why not? Let's go. I'll buy a game. Yeah, I've been wanting to buy a game. So go to Best Buy.

08:04.29
tanomsak
And I knew that they had one game that's fairly new, pretty new. um that was it available in physical edition, Star Wars Outlaws.

08:16.15
tanomsak
So yeah, proud owner now of Star Wars Outlaws.

08:16.79
Jaime G
Oh yeah.

08:20.42
tanomsak
It's installed, it's ready to go, it's ready to play. I'm gonna jump on there tonight after we finish podcasting and you know get this party started. you know ah been I've been sitting out the last few,

08:34.48
tanomsak
Last few games, now it's time to get back in there and, and, uh, knock some of these suckers out. So, but yeah, I bought that one. I can't wait to, you know, see how that plays.

08:48.40
Jaime G
I'm happy for you, man.

08:50.87
tanomsak
Yeah, I know. Life's been getting in the way.

08:56.21
Jaime G
Life, right?

08:57.16
tanomsak
Right. Um, so on to our topics. Let's jump into the main topic tur tonight, and that is Sony announced their brand new PS5 Pro Edition console a couple weeks ago.

09:12.32
Jaime G
Okay. Two podcast episodes ago, I mentioned, hey, there's this rumor that they're about to announce it.

09:22.77
Jaime G
And it turned out to be true. They announced it.

09:25.29
tanomsak
Well, you are the great prognosticator.

09:27.22
Jaime G
Well, yeah, I mean, but what can you expect from from the guy who won the 2024 draft?

09:34.04
tanomsak
Exactly. So no surprises there.

09:35.33
Jaime G
Yeah.

09:37.77
Jaime G
um

09:37.90
tanomsak
So yeah, we have the new console. And what is the said price of new console?

09:46.46
Jaime G
$699 with 99 cents.

09:49.30
tanomsak
Man, if it was $700, it would be a definite no for me.

09:53.31
Jaime G
Well, you're in luck because it is just below, just below that price.

10:01.12
tanomsak
$6.99. Okay. Okay. And it's available November 7th.

10:08.83
Jaime G
Yeah, something like that.

10:10.29
tanomsak
Okay. So I know you have your pre-order in, right?

10:13.07
Jaime G
No way.

10:15.71
tanomsak
What?

10:15.96
Jaime G
I'm still, I am still debating whether I should. I mean, i part of me feels like, no, but don't do this.

10:24.98
tanomsak
Well, let's look let's look at the positives here. it You get to spend $700 on your hobby.

10:35.90
tanomsak
Yeah, that's pretty much all the positives. ah see yeah yeah

10:40.88
Jaime G
I'm like waiting for it, waiting for it, okay. No, look, this is brutal, okay? um Before the podcast, we started recording, I said, hey, this is this is the base price for the ah digital version because they're not launching a version that has this reader and on it. Now, Snowy, since they released the original PlayStation in November of 2020,

11:10.99
Jaime G
um four years ago, which released at a price point of 499. Now they're adding 200 bucks more. And then you still have to buy the disk reader that's going to set you back another 80 bucks.

11:25.98
Jaime G
And get this, it doesn't have it doesn't come with the stand so that you can stand your PS five vertically.

11:35.64
Jaime G
Okay, so

11:36.22
tanomsak
So it has delay on its side.

11:39.12
Jaime G
It has to, unless unless you fork up another couple couple hundred bucks. I think at the end of the day, you're gonna end up, if you're if you get the disc reader and the stand, it's not 700 bucks, you're out 800 bucks. And here's the thing, I'm debating whether I wanna pay 700 plus dollars to mostly play games that I can play on a PlayStation 4.

12:05.51
tanomsak
So, yeah, so let's talk about what are you getting? What is the PS5 Pro providing?

12:15.22
Jaime G
Okay.

12:15.68
tanomsak
Upgrade wise.

12:16.23
Jaime G
Here's, here's a summary of this. They're saying processing power. They're saying all of this technical jargon. Let me just summarize it here and put it in layman's terms.

12:28.17
Jaime G
You know, Tony, how you can put a game in and it'll say, do you want to go for performance mode or do you want to go for what is, what is the option quality graphics or performance?

12:38.01
tanomsak
Graphics Quality Mode? Right, yeah.

12:42.26
Jaime G
Okay. Now you don't have to answer that question. That's it.

12:50.37
tanomsak
So, if you wanted to have an older game, early PS5 generation game, run at a higher frame rate,

13:03.92
tanomsak
uh or have better graphics you can do that right at the same time like you can run you

13:11.20
Jaime G
Not technically, no. If you have a game that asked you if you wanted to select that, then yes. But if you buy a game that never had put pose that question to you, you're going to get the exact same game. And I know because I started playing The Last of Us remastered part two. And I messed around with like performance and graphics, and I never really couldn't tell much of a difference because of the limitation of my TV.

13:43.73
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

13:45.58
Jaime G
So I'm going to get a console that I can select. I don't have to select one or the other.

13:50.70
tanomsak
Well, that's another thing you're talking about there.

13:51.18
Jaime G
And boom.

13:53.24
tanomsak
Well, what you just brought up. I remember Call of Duty.

13:59.59
tanomsak
I can't remember which one it was where you could get the 120 frames on the PS5.

14:05.89
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

14:07.84
tanomsak
Performance mode you could it was an option but you had to kind of dig into the menu system and do it But even though you select 120 frames if your television is not actually capable of running 120 frames as a matter Right so because when I bought the ps5 I Also managed to convince my wife that I needed a new TV That could run 120 frames but So

14:13.30
Jaime G
ah hu

14:20.47
Jaime G
I think it was modern warfare too, the one that that first did that.

14:36.61
Jaime G
i did I did the same thing.

14:38.70
tanomsak
We went to Best Buy and I bought a Samsung cu Q model, whatever, Q model 75, 75 inch or 85 inch model that could do a hundred that could run up those frame rates.

14:53.48
tanomsak
So if you don't already have a TV, and I'm assuming a lot of TVs are probably already capable of that now, it's been three or four years, but a lot of people don't.

15:00.99
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah it's it's more common.

15:03.06
tanomsak
I mean, a lot of people still have ah old TVs and those probably those probably aren't people that are going to upgrade anyway. But it's still another factor that you have to factor in another thing you have to think about. Like I can have this upgraded console, but do I have the monitor or the television that I can actually take advantage of it?

15:21.53
Jaime G
Exactly. Right.

15:25.59
tanomsak
Don't you love technology?

15:26.28
Jaime G
Yes.

15:29.44
tanomsak
There's always something else that you have to factor in that influences, you know, it's like a, what do you call it? A bottleneck, you know, there's always some bottleneck you didn't think of.

15:40.31
tanomsak
Oh, let me, I have to have gold plated HDMI or platinum, whatever is better. HDMI cables.

15:45.85
Jaime G
Dude, I had to buy 8K HDMI cables on my TV to to get the best resolution out of it.

15:54.71
tanomsak
Oh, ah I wanted to do the same thing. Oh, after I bought the TV, have the console.

15:57.09
Jaime G
And yes, yes.

15:59.45
tanomsak
Oh, guess what? The HDMI cables that we had before aren't capable that of that ah processing. So I had to go back to the store and buy $100 worth of HDMI cables.

16:15.67
Jaime G
Tony, your story sounds eerily familiar to mine. Because I definitely was like not counting on having to change the HDMI cables.

16:26.50
tanomsak
Right. So and then, you know, sit through two years of just getting like spoon fed games that don't even take advantage of any of this stuff I just upgraded to.

16:37.18
Jaime G
Two years. It's been four.

16:40.25
tanomsak
Well, yeah, but I mean.

16:41.63
Jaime G
and thats And that's why I said, I mean, it's it's a it's a new console to play games that you can basically play in a PlayStation 4.

16:50.05
tanomsak
Right. Like you're not going to even get they're not even going to have games I can take advantage of it. And then when they do have games that are taking advantage of it, guess what?

16:55.25
Jaime G
No.

16:58.46
Jaime G
PlayStation 6.

16:58.59
tanomsak
The next generation console is coming out. Because we're halfway through the PS5's lifecycle. If the lifecycles are seven to nine years, we'll say.

17:09.66
Jaime G
Well,

17:10.18
tanomsak
It used to be seven.

17:10.50
Jaime G
xbox so Xbox has already announced that they're working on their next next generation hardware if they don't go bankrupt before then.

17:18.51
tanomsak
Right. Right. And they may try to push out. a new model for Xbox because they've already lost this generation. They've admitted to it that this this generation is lost to them.

17:34.43
Jaime G
But let me ask a question. And this is, this is, I think this is the crux of what we're talking about. Sony, when the PlayStation Vita came out, it was overpriced and they were selling the memory cards, like super expensive. And they're like, well, you can't get these memory cards from anywhere else.

17:57.94
Jaime G
because for the original PlayStation ah portably, there was it was like a universal memory card.

18:05.49
tanomsak
Right.

18:06.12
Jaime G
But they didn't go that route for the Vita.

18:11.03
Jaime G
And ultimately, the Vita faded into obscurity, right?

18:15.08
tanomsak
Yeah.

18:16.24
Jaime G
I suspect right now, this is just me, and um this is this is me, I'm gonna give you a sales lesson. Anytime that you're gonna sell something, And i had I had a manager many years ago when I worked in sales.

18:32.67
Jaime G
He will remain unnamed, but if anybody knows me, they know who this person is. Total sleazeball. He was always like, you're always gonna sell a product at the highest price that you can get away with.

18:47.75
tanomsak
Right.

18:48.75
Jaime G
Okay. How many months have we been saying, where's Xbox? Where's Xbox? They're nowhere right now. You just said Xbox has lost a generation. Here comes Sony with a refresh that's two, let's say 300 bucks more expensive.

19:04.75
tanomsak
With no competition.

19:05.12
Jaime G
Why? Because there's nothing there's nothing to compete against.

19:10.64
tanomsak
Right, yeah. I mean, there's going to be people that buy it.

19:16.73
tanomsak
ah

19:17.31
Jaime G
um I'm honestly thinking about buying it or not. I mean, usually usually GameStop has some really decent trading offers at the beginning.

19:27.18
tanomsak
Right.

19:27.49
Jaime G
That's how I traded in my original, like my very first generation PlayStation 4 to like the redesign. I did that for Black Friday one year, and literally I took my old PlayStation 4, traded it in,

19:44.08
Jaime G
got the new one, got Spider-Man with it, and it was only 60 bucks. The the dude at at GameStop, I completely remember him saying, hey, you you're walking out with a brand new console and the Spider-Man game for just as much if you had just bought the Spider-Man game.

20:02.61
tanomsak
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you can work out trades and stuff like that, that doesn't really cost you anything. Um, sure. Why not? I'm like, I mean, I'm, I'm not saying no to buying one.

20:16.72
tanomsak
I'm saying no to buy one this particular November.

20:17.08
Jaime G
I'm not, umm I'm not, I'm going to, I'm going to say no to buy in one. If I don't do something with my old one, I'd say no to buy in one.

20:25.87
tanomsak
Right.

20:28.23
Jaime G
If this was like the very first ever release for PlayStation five, I'd be like, guys, just wait.

20:31.77
tanomsak
Like, If you want to buy one, yeah, go for it.

20:35.28
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

20:35.30
tanomsak
If you, but there's no need to buy one, right? There's nothing, there's no need.

20:39.38
Jaime G
There you go. I mean, what's, what's motivating you?

20:41.13
tanomsak
There's this, you're not going to get anything.

20:43.69
Jaime G
Yeah.

20:45.28
tanomsak
First of all, they're not going, they can't sell like they've, they're saying like, they could not going to make a game. They can only be pair played on a PS five pro. Right.

20:54.97
Jaime G
No, no, they can't.

20:56.55
tanomsak
Yeah. That, that would be dumb.

20:58.89
Jaime G
how How did that work out for Xbox and Baldur's Gate 3?

20:58.91
tanomsak
Um,

21:02.60
tanomsak
Right. So the yeah, you're not getting anything that anybody else can't get on just a base model. ah So I mean, it's for people that have the money or have a means of getting it and they don't, and it it just, they, they, they just want something new tech.

21:20.25
Jaime G
Well.

21:23.13
Jaime G
Well, let's go.

21:23.39
tanomsak
That's a little bit better.

21:25.05
Jaime G
Let's go back to nostalgia cells. Okay, that's been a topic. We've all talked about this. to maybe a Maybe less than two weeks out after the PS5 Pro announcement was made and it's getting ripped apart left and right by all the major outlets because of the price, the fan base, whatever. What does Sony do?

21:48.97
Jaime G
Hey, here's a very exclusive ah paint pattern on the control pad, on the ah PS Portal, on the PlayStation 5 Pro. They just made it be like the original PlayStation Gray.

22:08.55
tanomsak
Yeah.

22:10.59
Jaime G
where All the hate, all the negativity disappears. Nostalgia.

22:17.16
tanomsak
Right. Yeah. Well, you name it retro. Oh yeah, I do. ah pre up Put retro tag on it.

22:30.92
Jaime G
So i think I think right now, again, if you're if if you're an average gamer, like you're not doing this, I don't know. I don't know what would motivate somebody who's an average gamer to actually upgrade if they have a perfectly fine working console right now.

22:48.35
Jaime G
I would i i would hold off.

22:48.62
tanomsak
right

22:51.19
Jaime G
I severely doubt that we'll ever see a $200 decrease other than like some type of deal with a trading. But I right now see no immediate reason to say, let me get this so that I can play that this one game that I'm only be able to play if I get this.

23:10.68
tanomsak
Right. Right.

23:12.66
Jaime G
yeah

23:12.96
tanomsak
There's no games like if they were putting games out like Like this game is so graphically intensive that we can barely we can only get 30 frames out of it.

23:28.60
tanomsak
You know, it's the best we can do.

23:32.05
Jaime G
yeah

23:32.78
tanomsak
I mean, then maybe, yeah, because you technically say, oh, you can still this is the game that can still be played on the old console, but it would be run as intended on the PS5 Pro as intended.

23:47.79
Jaime G
ah

23:48.86
tanomsak
It's almost like sony like Sony has a wave of games that they're working on, and they know. ah We're like a year from release, and there's no way it's going to be able to run really good on the on the base model PS5. It will run, but very choppily with a very low frame rate. But if we put out this PS5 Pro, oh, not then it's running its intended frame rate.

24:16.82
Jaime G
so So you're saying that we're going to see another Cyberpunk release that only plays well if you have a PlayStation 5 or a PlayStation Pro.

24:17.02
tanomsak
oh yeah

24:26.95
tanomsak
Right.

24:28.23
Jaime G
But but but everyone else who has the regular PlayStation 4 model just basically are told like,

24:33.84
tanomsak
Oh yeah, they don't care about the, they don't care about the PS4 pro. I mean, the PS4, they don't care about the PS4.

24:38.66
Jaime G
yeah. Yeah.

24:40.22
tanomsak
See, it has to play on a PS5. Any, you know, has to play on a PS5. Doesn't necessarily have to play well on a PS5. Right? So Sony's been kind of dragging their feet on games, right?

24:55.58
tanomsak
But they have a whole bunch of games in production, supposedly.

24:55.62
Jaime G
yeah

24:59.56
Jaime G
Yeah Supposedly I hope so because there's nothing releasing for the rest of the year Was it was it Was it the PlayStation?

24:59.88
tanomsak
right But they can only really run as intended on their new PS5 Pro. They can run on base, but they're really immense for the PS5 Pro.

25:15.44
tanomsak
they can still

25:20.68
Jaime G
that did like a line of commercials that like play it best on the PlayStation 4 Pro.

25:29.89
tanomsak
I'm sure it makes sense. I mean, obviously you will play it best on the more powerful tech, but Mike, I think they learned something they they've learned. They've learned if this has been the, this has been in the works.

25:42.61
tanomsak
This has been in the works since the last generation. Cause they learned in the last generation, they made did a mid gen refresh.

25:52.16
Jaime G
ah huh

25:52.38
tanomsak
And then, so this is the first time we've done a mid gen refresh. How can we make more money? Right? How can we get the people that initially bought the 50 million PS4s to upgrade, get a new one, right?

26:06.54
Jaime G
to get a new one okay if they start releasing games that they say that you can only play on the PlayStation 5 Pro they're gonna lose their fan base no I know I know what you're saying

26:10.23
tanomsak
So they've been working on that question, but now it's the PS5 generation and I think they've they've got their strategy. And this is just me opining. This is my opinion that they're good.

26:20.53
tanomsak
It's working in conjunction with their plan for yeah game release.

26:28.63
tanomsak
No, but you don't understand what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they had the games still have to play on the PS5. They still have to play on it.

26:40.51
tanomsak
But when they say you take two years from now, a game that releases, you take that game, you put it on your base, PS5. It's gonna run at 30 frames, which was a frame rate that was accessible last generation, not so much now.

26:51.44
Jaime G
Uh

26:57.03
tanomsak
But you can still play Xbox releases games all the time with 30 frames, right? ah So you can still play it, right?

27:07.68
tanomsak
So they're not violating any contract. They're not violating any any you know ethical sales policy.

27:12.10
Jaime G
-huh.

27:15.91
tanomsak
You can still play it at 30 frames. But if the PS5 Pro can play it at 60 to 90 frames, no problem.

27:27.73
tanomsak
and you know that for a year out, then a whole much more people are going to be dropping money on there and it's going to be some huge franchise. Oh, maybe the last of us three. It's going to be some huge franchise.

27:46.46
Jaime G
Okay. Well, look, there was, there was a major poll that was done about a year ago where they went and asked gamers, do you prefer performance Miller or quality mode?

27:58.57
tanomsak
and Everybody always says performance.

28:00.50
Jaime G
Exactly.

28:02.58
tanomsak
Right, yeah, which is why it's setting up perfectly.

28:02.96
Jaime G
Exactly. Because they, yeah, I mean,

28:06.75
tanomsak
That's why it's it's all a grand grand plan. Well, you and I right now are saying, oh you know, if we have the money or whatever, we we'll buy it. But in a year, it's going to be we're going to have to buy it because we're not going to be able to play the last of us three as it's intended to be played.

28:16.83
Jaime G
yeah

28:25.57
Jaime G
as it's intended to be played. Yeah. Well, but but I think but that the the reason why people would answer performance mode was because theyre they're like, we care about frames per second a lot more than the having that smooth, crisp graphic or to do ray tracing. They're like, we don't even notice ray tracing. But I can notice 30 frames per second over 60.

28:50.50
tanomsak
Yeah, I mean, I just think there's a it's obviously a reason why Sony has been released games, but their first parties have not released any new games.

29:01.69
Jaime G
No.

29:03.09
tanomsak
But all of a sudden, here's PS5 Pro.

29:06.94
Jaime G
Oh, imagine if Concord would have been that first game. That first game to be like, much better on a PlayStation 5 Pro.

29:17.05
tanomsak
Well, they they pulled it, right? They pulled it from the store. You can't buy it anymore.

29:20.67
Jaime G
It's gone.

29:21.54
tanomsak
didnt they Weren't they even taking it off people's systems?

29:24.83
Jaime G
Yeah, like, but like, yeah, no, they did.

29:24.86
tanomsak
I heard that rumor and refunding them, like they were just taking the game away.

29:29.90
Jaime G
yeah

29:30.63
tanomsak
That's a rumor. like That might be a like a Trump rumor ah or something.

29:34.02
Jaime G
No.

29:36.27
tanomsak
um They're eating games.

29:41.30
tanomsak
ah Um, but I don't know. I'm starting to think this is a, this is a, oh yeah.

29:49.46
Jaime G
Okay. Okay. So Tony conspiracy theory is that this is the beginning of finally that next gen of games.

29:50.80
tanomsak
Yeah.

29:57.44
tanomsak
Oh yeah. Yep. And it just, I know all those games just happen to be, you know, releasing. Well, I mean, the PS five pro is now is dropping. I know in November 7th, they just talked, they just announced it.

30:12.60
tanomsak
two or three weeks ago.

30:12.72
Jaime G
Uh-huh. Yeah. yeah

30:15.36
tanomsak
So you're saying that you went from, oh, we don't have anything in the works to all of a sudden here it is for sale in a month. So that's it. I mean, you know how business works.

30:28.02
Jaime G
Yeah.

30:28.36
tanomsak
They've got a five year plan for this.

30:29.60
Jaime G
They better.

30:33.03
tanomsak
they they They would have had a year's marketing strategies. You know, what, what we're going, uh,

30:40.35
Jaime G
Wait, wait. You're you're thinking in an ideal world, my friend. You're not thinking in a... when When you're like the only player or the... Maybe that's not that no not the case.

30:55.53
tanomsak
Maybe not. But we'll see. Mark this mark this episode. so and When all of a sudden, you're going to start seeing, oh, this game is announced. This game is announced. This game is announced. And they're all performance-based games that play ideally on the PS5 Pro. And that's going to be their marketing point.

31:16.77
tanomsak
Best played on the BS5 Pro. It'll be in little white letters or a little grayed out letters in the bottom right hand corner of every trailer. Like you won't even see it until somebody points it out to you.

31:27.00
Jaime G
Oh, OK, my friend, you know what game what game is releasing at the same time as the PlayStation 5 Pro?

31:27.03
tanomsak
Oh, look right there at the bottom. It says best played on PS5 Pro.

31:35.05
tanomsak
What's that?

31:36.37
Jaime G
Until dawn.

31:38.51
tanomsak
Until Dawn. Oh, a remake.

31:40.69
Jaime G
You cannot tell. I wish it were a remake. It's the same game. You cannot convince me if somebody says, oh, this game will play better on the PlayStation 5 Pro.

31:51.53
tanomsak
Well, of course.

31:53.02
Jaime G
When it's a PlayStation 4 era game,

31:57.89
tanomsak
Yeah, I mean, I love the game. It's a great game. I don't know why I would need high frame rates. So it's more of a movie based game.

32:06.36
Jaime G
Well, isn't that like all those games? Okay, e let's that's a different story. Still, these are the games that are releasing. Nothing that's come enough for the rest of the year justifies a PS5 Pro. Nothing that has come out since justifies a PS5 Pro.

32:22.79
tanomsak
What if I were to tell you that PS5 Pro could play Call of Duty at 200 frames per second?

32:33.03
Jaime G
I think Xbox would find a way to block that from being true. Parity clauses.

32:40.67
tanomsak
But wouldn't wouldn't they make the ps ah the Call of Duty based on performance PC performance specs, right?

32:51.37
Jaime G
Okay.

32:52.83
tanomsak
What's that 240? Could you run Call of Duty 240 on PC? and need We need a PC expert.

32:57.05
Jaime G
I don't know.

32:58.76
tanomsak
I bet you can.

32:58.94
Jaime G
Yeah. out

32:59.72
tanomsak
I bet it's something more ridiculous like that. But so if I were to tell you that, oh, you could if you don't want to play it on PC, but you want to play it on a console, you could play for free on Xbox. Or you can pay you could buy it on PlayStation at double the frame rate.

33:12.50
Jaime G
30 FPS though.

33:16.48
tanomsak
And you just said players were interested in and frame rates, especially in a shooter.

33:23.04
Jaime G
People ah people prefer ah the frame, the FPS, yes.

33:28.69
tanomsak
Yeah, I give you double frame rates on PS five pro.

33:33.48
Jaime G
Sold.

33:35.34
tanomsak
yeah

33:35.56
Jaime G
I'd be like that where like, shut up and take my money.

33:41.76
tanomsak
right

33:46.90
Jaime G
Anyway, I mean, Tony, if GameStop, I mean, GameStop isn't doing what they used to in the past, but if GameStop says I will give you. 350 bucks for your four year console. I'd send up.

34:04.29
tanomsak
Okay, that's good.

34:05.95
Jaime G
i'd I'd have to go to eBay and buy the cover for the SSD.

34:11.69
tanomsak
but

34:15.71
Jaime G
ah I didn't tell you, but I was able to get a replacement cover, but you can like totally 100% look at this and be like, yo, that's not the original one that came with this.

34:27.91
tanomsak
So I could take my Xbox, my Series X, and my bass PS5. Trade them in. I'll probably get a couple bucks for that.

34:40.24
Jaime G
Probably. Yeah.

34:43.17
tanomsak
So, knock it down to a couple hundred dollars. Maybe.

34:50.34
Jaime G
okay

34:54.03
Jaime G
ah Anyway, but Tony, let's talk about the games that are releasing for the rest of the year that are going to play better on PS5 Pro.

35:04.25
tanomsak
Intended to play on the PS5 Pro Yeah,

35:06.56
Jaime G
Yeah.

35:10.02
Jaime G
What you got on the horizon?

35:10.75
tanomsak
yeah first game up what we got on the horizon you get you got the big title big Silent Hill 2 remake So that is all right, that's just around the corner So

35:16.77
Jaime G
I, I do. Yes. Yes. Comes out on October the eighth. It's just, it's two weeks away.

35:29.92
Jaime G
ah

35:32.69
tanomsak
You are the expert. I never played the original Silent Hill.

35:36.73
Jaime G
Yes.

35:36.81
tanomsak
Um, it's a Konami game, right?

35:40.19
Jaime G
It is a Konami game back in there, back when they were in their prime.

35:41.67
tanomsak
But, and it is being developed by blooper team. I think that's a developer, right?

35:51.97
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

35:53.80
tanomsak
Did you ever play the medium?

35:57.09
Jaime G
What? I remember seeing this game. It looks so interesting, whereas like you were like doing the two worlds at the same time.

36:03.61
tanomsak
Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's That's the same developer that did that that game.

36:07.73
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

36:08.62
tanomsak
I played it, finished it, beat it. ah And it was good. I liked it. And I guess for a studio that kind of is good into you know giving that cinematic feel.

36:24.12
Jaime G
eerie atmosphere yeah i have but before i go into that you know that uh the developers were really concerned about taking this on as a remake because they know how beloved the original is and the original it's not it's not a resident evil where it's a

36:25.49
tanomsak
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So i've seen have you seen any games preview for the Sanrio 2?

36:40.98
tanomsak
Hmm. Right.

36:51.72
Jaime G
It's kind of you could argue as a shooter. It's an action game. Resident Evil 4 was the first one to depart from survival horror and when it's more action focused.

37:02.33
tanomsak
Yeah.

37:04.40
Jaime G
I bet you you will not be able to go anywhere and find like a Silent Hill 2 remake trailer where it's like all action because it's not. This game is psychological horror.

37:16.38
Jaime G
so So they needed a studio that can make create this eerie atmosphere, music, where you're just scared to take a right hand turn at the end of the corner.

37:16.79
tanomsak
Right?

37:28.85
tanomsak
So from what I want to understand the game, the new the new new one that's coming out on the 8th is fairly faithful to the original story. So that's what they're claiming.

37:38.03
Jaime G
that's what they That's what they're claiming.

37:41.39
tanomsak
there are There are changes, from what I understand, and how basically the presentation.

37:46.40
Jaime G
ah Yes.

37:46.42
tanomsak
um what Without giving any spoilers away, and you said you've played it. i mean kind of give Give us the listeners like ah kind of a high overhead summary of what does it what you and what the game is, really.

37:58.56
Jaime G
Uh

38:03.41
tanomsak
is that You said psychological horror. in so What are you going to find yourself doing, basically?

38:06.18
Jaime G
-huh.

38:09.50
Jaime G
Okay, so you're you're you're immediately immediately thrown into the shoes of your main character who's James Sunderland. James Sunderland has a wife who's dead. That's it. Okay, just this is the beginning. She's gone. But all of a sudden, he he has received letters from his dead wife.

38:34.80
Jaime G
saying that in a nutshell she's waiting to see him in that special place where they had their honeymoon in Silent Hill but Silent Hill is like this like opening gateway to like another dimension with bad stuff okay somehow they had their honeymoon there they loved it uh exactly right just don't catch it between six and nine pm um

38:48.92
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

38:55.19
tanomsak
Sounds like a fantastic place to have a honeymoon.

39:05.19
Jaime G
So the whole premise of this game is like you're playing the game saying, trying to figure out who's sending you this letters, what's going on. And when you're in the town, there's like different things that happen as you're trying to unravel the plot. And it is very, it's kind of torturing and in a way for the player, which once you realize all the events that transpire and I remember one time after I played the original PlayStation 2 version of this game, is that I read this a paper that somebody wrote and they published it on GameFacts. Yeah, that's what it was. And somebody said, look, all the v bad guys in this game, they look like this. This is why, this is why, this is why. And you're like, it's all connected.

40:01.88
Jaime G
I mean, there's a really good reason why ah the the bad guys look the way that they do in this game. And this was like further cement cemented in um Silent Hill 3. There was one scene in Silent Hill 3 that I'll never forget where the main character is talking to somebody else in the town and she in the main character says something along the lines of like don't go out that door you're running into you're gonna run into like this these demons and the guy looked at her he's like oh so that's how you see them right and so anyway it was like that was like such a tieback to Silent Hill too like why did the main character see the bad guys the way that they did

40:37.16
tanomsak
Hmm.

40:45.61
tanomsak
Okay.

40:45.65
Jaime G
ah Anyway, to anybody who's going to jump into this adventure, I wish you luck. I'm not going to spoil anything. Everything that I just said is things that you know by watching any trailer. But this is going to be a really good story, okay?

41:04.90
Jaime G
um

41:06.59
tanomsak
So you are, am I hearing you correctly? Are you recommending everybody play this game? You should pick up a copy, run out and pick up a copy if you're in a less psychological horror.

41:17.22
Jaime G
I would recommend that everyone plays the original Silent Hill 2 on PlayStation 2. But if you can't, this is the closest, the next big best thing that you're going to get.

41:29.11
tanomsak
Okay, are you getting it?

41:31.12
Jaime G
I definitely am going to get it. But I'm kind of right now juggling like, do I get Astro Bot or do I get Silent Hill 2?

41:38.86
tanomsak
Well, it is almost October. So if you're going for the Halloween theme, what better way than a horror game?

41:50.61
Jaime G
Weren't we playing an October ago, Resident Evil 4?

41:55.67
tanomsak
I was.

41:57.16
Jaime G
Yeah, me too.

41:59.42
tanomsak
Yeah, well, they the marketing, man. If you're big as a market, you put it out during the horror season.

42:06.89
Jaime G
Yeah. Well, but actually, this actually is a little bit of a segue into another game I wanted to talk about, is A Quiet Place the Road Ahead. It comes out in October, mid-October, actually.

42:20.42
Jaime G
um Have you seen anything about this game?

42:25.20
tanomsak
I have not. It sounds like a movie, a quiet place.

42:29.63
Jaime G
it It is based on the franchise, for sure.

42:29.87
tanomsak
Is it based? Okay, so it's based on the franchise.

42:32.98
Jaime G
And it is kind of like an alien isolation.

42:37.03
tanomsak
Okay.

42:37.57
Jaime G
You're you're in this map.

42:39.11
tanomsak
Quiet.

42:40.44
Jaime G
Yeah. But if you make any noises, the beast comes for you.

42:45.88
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

42:47.98
Jaime G
the graphics look kind of clunky and dated it definitely by no means looks looks like a playstation 5 2024 game heck it might even look like until dawn but i'm a fan of a quiet place the franchise so i might give that a uh a peek and the other one

43:08.41
tanomsak
OK, that sounds interesting. First of all, and that's just because you want to make sure it's appropriate.

43:14.17
Jaime G
The other one I'm going to take a peek at in October is Sonic Crush Shadow Generations, only because of my son.

43:26.67
Jaime G
a I mean, we we we have Sonic Generations. I just want to see what what the shadow levels look like now.

43:33.49
tanomsak
OK, of course, you You have a Call of Duty coming out, number six, right? That's November. Gotta take advantage of the PS5 Pro.

43:49.92
tanomsak
ah And this there's no extra, to like oh, October 25th.

43:52.27
Jaime G
No, actually, it comes out October 25th. Uh-huh.

43:58.07
tanomsak
Okay. I have not looked at anything about this game yet. Like I'm just waiting for everybody else to tell me if it's good or bad or something like the zombies the zombies is Like The zombies is not the zombies like we had last time Yeah, it's totally different like old-school zombies where you're open.

44:12.18
Jaime G
ah The zombies is not... No.

44:24.96
Jaime G
It's old school zombies.

44:26.18
tanomsak
Okay Yeah Okay

44:27.20
Jaime G
Where like, if you want to progress beyond this point, you have to have so much money. And so you're running around like a narrow area.

44:35.31
tanomsak
It's kind of like an arcadey survival escape zombie thing.

44:39.08
Jaime G
Yeah, man. and its I saw 15 minutes of gameplay for zombies and I was like, I might be skipping out Black Ops 6.

44:51.42
tanomsak
All right.

44:55.98
tanomsak
Dragon Age, Veil Card.

45:00.89
tanomsak
I'm very interested in this game because I like Dragon Age.

45:03.01
Jaime G
It comes out on Halloween day.

45:05.90
tanomsak
Yes, so um ah the Dragon Age has been a while, right? yeah track The last Dragon Age came out like when the PS4 first dropped. It's been 10 years, so we're finally getting a new ah new Dragon Age, and this actually looks all looks pretty good, so I'm interested. Fantasy, again, can ah can't wait to give that a try, so I'm definitely gonna be picking that up.

45:37.08
tanomsak
what else we got

45:38.83
Jaime G
Okay, I don't know, I don't know man, but there's one there's one game that comes up in December.

45:39.11
tanomsak
ah

45:44.48
Jaime G
Okay, let's we're fast forwarding to December now, but Dragon Age, I have a good friend of mine who ever since the PlayStation 4 days will always tell me you need to play this game.

45:56.93
Jaime G
And every single time that it goes on sale on PS Plus, he's like, get this game, play it.

46:01.10
tanomsak
What else we got?

46:04.76
Jaime G
And I've never baked his, cause mainly he's, he's one of those guys that he, that if you, if you go to him and say, Hey man, this game's good. He's just going to be like, this game sucks.

46:15.96
Jaime G
Only to like be contrary to whatever you tell him. So i I've picked that game specifically to kind of like reverse it on him.

46:24.25
tanomsak
Yeah.

46:25.39
Jaime G
Um, but the the game that's on my list for early December is marble rivals. I'm actually thinking about skipping out on Call of Duty to just focus on this game.

46:42.57
tanomsak
right yeah when we talked about about it you know it's a it's a team based is it i don't want to use the word shooter but i mean i guess it is right yeah it's overwatch clone basically except with marvel skins

46:54.05
Jaime G
How about if you say team based Overwatch? Uh-huh.

47:03.95
Jaime G
Right.

47:04.82
tanomsak
Which is the best selling point, right? It's like, cause you've got hundreds of characters that you could, you could come up with.

47:15.51
Jaime G
Dude, in marble snap, there's there's over 300 cards already.

47:15.71
tanomsak
So.

47:21.47
Jaime G
And new cards dropping every week.

47:21.71
tanomsak
Right. Right. So. mean I mean, I, I mean, the arrivals too.

47:29.31
Jaime G
Yep. um i'm I'm holding out on rivals and it is free to play.

47:31.02
tanomsak
And it's free, right? Is it free to play?

47:33.92
Jaime G
Yeah.

47:34.27
tanomsak
Yeah, best played on PS5 Pro. um

47:40.22
Jaime G
For sure.

47:41.77
tanomsak
um Okay, so there's one last, is it December?

47:43.58
Jaime G
There's, there's one other big release in December.

47:48.15
Jaime G
Yeah.

47:48.48
tanomsak
What game?

47:49.00
Jaime G
Got to be and Indiana Jones in the great circle.

47:53.70
tanomsak
Indiana Jones, yeah. The Great Circle.

47:56.70
Jaime G
That's December.

47:57.75
tanomsak
That's December. What about Assassin's Creed Shadow?

48:02.97
Jaime G
ah that's actually November November the 15th and I don't know man I've I've done one too many Assassin's Creed games right now I think I'm Creed burned out yeah like like 150 hours worth of gaming on that yeah

48:16.48
tanomsak
I really enjoyed Valhalla Valhalla was worth the money I spent on that one for sure really enjoyed that game

48:27.13
tanomsak
100 well, yeah, that's what I guess I mean that's the average I Think I was get 182 or something and but I was playing like every side quest You know doing every little side thing because the quests were so good like the side quests so If they can get anywhere close to that though, I understand there's a lot of controversy with this particular game this particular title

48:55.95
Jaime G
Which by the way, the controversy is dumb.

49:01.42
tanomsak
Right. Yeah. It's a video game, but, you know, uh, maybe it's kind of like, um, how some of the things that they've said and like, oh, we wanted to be historically accurate type stuff and like, well, you're not.

49:15.86
tanomsak
So whatever it's a video game.

49:17.92
Jaime G
It's a video game. Take some liberties, people.

49:20.40
tanomsak
So I'm just looking at it as just a video game perspective, you know, ignoring all the. the noise around the other aspect of the game.

49:32.65
tanomsak
um I hope.

49:34.02
Jaime G
it's The controversy on this game is dumb.

49:39.77
tanomsak
yeah

49:40.28
Jaime G
It's somebody who said, let me find something to nitpick about. And made this huge deal out of something that ah ultimately at the end of the day doesn't necessarily matter.

49:53.30
tanomsak
Right. Well, I agree with you. but

50:01.93
Jaime G
I wish vans were here to set us straight.

50:03.26
tanomsak
Yeah, right. I don't want to give too much advance talk about it whenever he says show up.

50:06.40
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

50:10.24
tanomsak
ah um Anyway, so I think that's ah all the games stalker to and these are some Xbox titles. I mean, right now they're Xbox titles.

50:23.47
Jaime G
Well, there's if you're into Dragon Quest games, there's a Dragon Quest 3 HD remake that's going to be dropping.

50:28.93
tanomsak
Yeah.

50:31.33
Jaime G
Genshin Impact is coming out on Xbox Series X, although it's been out already on mobile and PlayStation are like forever.

50:40.07
tanomsak
Yeah.

50:43.11
Jaime G
I don't know. there's there's Again, i think I think we've already hit the major highlights for the year.

50:49.24
tanomsak
Yeah. All right. Well, cool. Great episode again. Appreciate you joining me tonight since talking about PS5 Pro and what games are left for the year. Definitely interested to see the what your thoughts are on Silent Hill when it comes out. Yeah, go ahead.

51:13.08
Jaime G
Yeah, and anybody who's listening to this episode, drop us a note either on Discord or one of our social media platforms. Let us know. Are you going to get the PlayStation 5 Pro?

51:26.11
tanomsak
That's right.

51:27.76
Jaime G
Yeah.

51:27.95
tanomsak
actually After listen to episode, heck yeah, I'm getting it. or I'm not coming anywhere close to that thing.

51:36.58
Jaime G
I'd like to know.

51:37.79
tanomsak
Yeah, you can send us a message from the episode um straight from the from the episode description, I think, on on our Buzzsprout host.

51:42.52
Jaime G
Straight on bus route.

51:49.79
tanomsak
So if you listen there, you you can send us a message directly. All right, so anyway, thanks again for joining me, and I will catch you later.

51:55.84
Jaime G
Talk to you soon, man.