Black Ops 6 Zombies: Are We Interested?

The crew is all back and this time we're talking about Call of Duty and if we'll be playing the new Zombie mode in Black Ops 6.

Transcript

00:00.00
tanomsak
yeah i jump right into All right. Hi guys. Welcome back to good to game radio. I'm your Tony and joining us tonight. A long, long time ago, we used to have this ghost and he's reappeared Vance. What's going on?

00:19.62
sentfrmheaven
Oh man, everything's gone man. I missed you guys, man. I missed you, missed you.

00:25.36
tanomsak
I think you were having a case of what homie brought up last the last episode and that is parenthood parenthood just reached up and grabbed you and dragged you down you know and um ah so you've been stricken with ah with the I got to take all the kids to all their extracurriculars

00:37.18
Jaime G
Yeah, oh yeah.

00:50.55
sentfrmheaven
Man, absolutely. Hey, at least you guys treat me better than the bowling alley. The bowling alley kicked me out of the league, so, because I wasn't showing up because I couldn't. The kids had practice, you know what I'm saying?

01:01.55
sentfrmheaven
So, yeah, they kicked me out.

01:02.55
Jaime G
Out of here.

01:03.85
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, they kicked me out.

01:08.54
tanomsak
Yeah, so we were yeah we were talking, Jaime and I were talking the last episode, of oh yeah, we should just make a video game where you get a XP open world video game where you're just trying to you know get the kids out of the house, you know growing up and out of the house.

01:21.95
Jaime G
yeah

01:22.15
tanomsak
and you you know so

01:22.21
sentfrmheaven
Right.

01:22.41
Jaime G
yeah

01:25.31
sentfrmheaven
Right, you're right. Especially, hey, you get bonus points if they can remember everything they're supposed to grab. You know, like you drive half way down the street. Hey, you got your water bottle? No. Well, that's minus points right there.

01:37.94
sentfrmheaven
They don't got everything.

01:41.06
tanomsak
Yeah, so welcome back.

01:44.61
tanomsak
And.

01:45.19
sentfrmheaven
I'm ready.

01:46.31
tanomsak
Yeah, and the and the other chair, we got Jaime.

01:46.43
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

01:49.95
tanomsak
What's going on, man?

01:50.64
Jaime G
Hey, I'm usually here, man. i've I've missed one or two in the last month or so, but I'm usually here. It's good to be back.

01:58.72
tanomsak
Yeah, cool. So our episode tonight, we're going to be diving into a little discussion on the upcoming video game ah Call of Duty, but not necessarily the main game where it's multiplayer or ah the regular.

02:16.25
tanomsak
ah what's ah What's the Battle Royale mode?

02:20.35
sentfrmheaven
That a war zone.

02:21.95
tanomsak
Warzone.

02:22.29
Jaime G
Warzone.

02:23.93
tanomsak
But tonight we're going to be talking about Call of Duty Zombies ah for Black Ops 6. and ah Then we'll talk about some others and just random stuff that probably ah pop up after that main discussion. So ah let's get into it. So you guys. You guys have played a lot of zombies in the last one, right? With the open world and stuff. How did you guys like that?

02:52.90
Jaime G
I loved it. I absolutely loved it. the The fact that they gave me an open world to say, go do but whatever you want for, I can't even remember now if it was like 30 minutes or, or 35 minutes, whatever it was, it was just like, go have fun, break it. I thought that was such a blast. And I had a chance to actually play it with Vance one time. And when you play with somebody who's that much,

03:20.99
Jaime G
overpowered and he has all the cool toys and is able to carry you. We were just talking about being carried that Tony didn't like being carried.

03:29.86
sentfrmheaven
He ain't like you being carried.

03:31.61
Jaime G
Nope, that's what he said. He's like, nope, not for me. ah it just It just made it a lot better experience. And I love the freedom that I got playing this game.

03:43.08
Jaime G
I just absolutely loved it. How about you, Vance?

03:46.87
tanomsak
Yeah.

03:48.54
sentfrmheaven
ah Yeah, definitely man had a great time playing the game. um And a yeah, definitely like the open world. you know experience you know and I did like the different levels that you can go to like the different tiers whatever like that because I mean sometimes you want to go in there you know just have a little fun so you know you can hang out tier one tier two that sometimes you you souped up and you want to get sweaty so we're gonna go to tier three you know but um but yeah definitely definitely love the open world aspect though that was like you said I had my favorite favorite part

04:21.03
tanomsak
Now Vance, you didn't...

04:21.27
Jaime G
right And they gave you like a...

04:23.27
tanomsak
No, go ahead, Vami.

04:25.20
Jaime G
And they gave you a plot. There was like certain missions that you had to do. If you did did these things amongst your multiple parlators, you would see part of the story, kind of what's happening.

04:37.39
Jaime G
Understand a little bit more about the lore, which is something that you didn't have in the previous ones. And also they kept on doing updates to give you like new warlords new things to do so they tried man that's that's one thing that I'm gonna say they absolutely tried to keep this game engaging and fun as much as they could

05:03.26
tanomsak
Yeah, um I remember that. The zombies mode wasn't it didn't start off with a a big bang, but it it just kind of grew with more and more players just coming into that mode. I think yeah after getting tired of multiplayer or war zone or whatever, you're looking for something different and then ah discovering that there is this whole new.

05:26.51
tanomsak
really nice open world ah zombies mode that you could play with your friends or by yourself, ah that that population of players just kind of exploded there over the course of the year that the last Call of Duty was out. Now Vance, you were ah kind of a ah zombies newbie, right? You never played any of the zombies in any of the other ones. Well, I think you did though, ah maybe here and there, but you never really got into it, right?

05:55.54
sentfrmheaven
yes yeah Yeah, I just played like here and there, but yeah, we never as as much as I played this one. um Yeah, because I don't even think I was ah kind of into like the story mode of different ones or what was going on. It was just, you know, like, you know, shoot them up, like, okay, I'm wearing, you know, I'm i'm ready for this to be over or like that, but this one definitely kept my attention.

06:17.63
tanomsak
So do you you think that you liked the main story? kind the further Typically, the further along you get into the zombies mode, ah there's a narrative that kind of progresses. Did you like that?

06:37.03
tanomsak
more, finding out more like the story, what that was kind of like Jaime was saying, or ah was it the Easter eggs? A lot of side Easter eggs that you could ah discover and power up and discovering whole new things that you could do or whatever, and just kind of like, you know, just discovering stuff that maybe regular casual players might not know about.

07:04.42
sentfrmheaven
Um, definitely, um, the Easter eggs because the, um, cause you know, once you complete the story, um, you can go back and do the story story again, but it's like, you kind of know, like.

07:17.45
sentfrmheaven
what's going to happen like you kind of are ready for it you know just so the progression or decompression of every like turn but with the easter eggs and with the different updates they might have nerfed this they might have uh you know buffed this so it's like you had to go and change how you approach the easter eggs you know you might have done them before but now You know, like, uh, like Jaime was saying, like, on the big map, you have 45 minutes. And if you go in with a regular sigil, you got 45 minutes on the, uh, on the map. But then if you went there with the elder sigil, you got 15 minutes on certain, uh, certain, like, um, I guess you can say missions and stuff. So it was like, now it's, you know, it changes how you approach it. You know, okay, we got to go in and hit it hard or we can kind of like be lazy a little bit, you know, so.

08:09.30
sentfrmheaven
I definitely like to eat their eggs.

08:12.24
tanomsak
Would you say that ah the more you got into the zombie modes, that you how did you learn the progression and and other all these Easter eggs? Did you ah team up with other players that would reveal stuff to you? Or was it a hunt on YouTube about secrets in the modes and stuff? how What was the way that you learned more often?

08:36.99
sentfrmheaven
um So when I first started playing it was just strictly the missions that they had set up and then going through the story mode and then it's like once you've like kind of like getting to a certain level you start getting certain weapons then it's like you start running into the better players and the one thing I did like about it is like if you win it by yourself and guys had space from their squads well you can join them so like now you look at their camos you look at like their you know uh different um what do they call them operators you can say okay well this guy know just knows what he doing so now they're explaining you different things you know that they found out along the way so it it is a big and good community you know so it's like that's how i first started learning and then it was like okay well let me go into the youtube videos and then um once you know i start playing with like other people even from work

09:30.37
sentfrmheaven
no people from church, it was like, okay, all right, well, let me pass on this knowledge. So it was like a mixture between new players and social media.

09:41.24
tanomsak
OK, so it sounds like you're saying that the player base um is not your normal toxic cause duty player base, but the opposite more of a helpful. Let us show you what we know. Let us carry you a little bit player base.

10:04.91
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, it started off like that, and then it got toxic.

10:07.87
tanomsak
Oh, yeah.

10:09.34
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, so like, okay, so I'll give you one instance. So they added like these three triangles per to say, and they can only be done one time per map, like, you know, per going in there.

10:23.62
sentfrmheaven
So, and what it gave you was it gave you a legendary tool for your gun and legendary pack a punch, which is, got you the super mean which got you your gun to like level three and that's the highest level that you can go on the big map so as soon as the game starts you look at the map and you'll see all these blue dots flying into zone three to try to get these completed but um The biggest squad you can have is six. So instead of people teaming up and say, hey guys, okay, we all want to do this, cause there's only 24 people on the map. So, you know, it's like, instead of teaming up and say, hey, us six are going and do it. So everybody gets them. It's like three guys versus three guys. And you're like, you know, it doesn't have to be that way cause you know, it's enough for everybody, you know? So it did start getting, you know, toxic, whatever like that, you know, near the end.

11:15.59
tanomsak
OK, how many was your experience with ah with it?

11:22.21
Jaime G
OK, so. I've absolutely loved this thing because remember this this game mode that they released for a while, those free it was called a DMZ.

11:31.91
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

11:34.33
Jaime G
and And so when zombies came out, they basically pulled all production and development for DMZ, which sucked for some people because they were like spending money to get like loadouts, camos and then the you know They basically said, oh, we're not going to do this anymore.

11:53.57
Jaime G
Well, the one thing I hated about DMZ was the players. So many times I was about to exfil after a good run, and some other players are just camping to just snipe you, take all your stuff, and then they exfil. And zombies fixed that. They made sure that you couldn't play against other players. You're always ah trying, and I'm going to say trying because Vance is right. Some people play different.

12:21.98
Jaime G
Some people try to work together. And when you get into a good squad that everyone's trying to work ah to complete missions and stuff, it gets fun. i mean And I really like this one because of the randomness, the openness. I mean, even after putting in so many hours in this game, there's like probably like some nooks and crannies that I probably didn't go through.

12:46.32
Jaime G
um And fans, did you complete the the the chess? What was the name of that Easter egg? The chessboard? I think it was called the King.

12:57.37
sentfrmheaven
ah Yes. Yes, I did complete that.

12:59.57
Jaime G
Dude, that was the hardest one for me to complete because you have to basically go to all four corners of the map. and wish that somebody didn't beat you to the room because anybody could unlock it.

13:11.67
Jaime G
And then if somebody was just like nearby, they could be like, oh, let me see if this door is open. Catching.

13:18.59
sentfrmheaven
Right.

13:19.51
Jaime G
Anyway, but but the reason why I'm really not excited, Tony, about the upcoming zombies game is because they went back to making it like round based versus giving you an open map and like Do you wanna hang out in level zone one, zone two, or zone three? And it's like, go kill zombies, get money, open up a door to go somewhere else. Go kill some more zombies, open up the door to go somewhere else. You fail, start all over again from the beginning. To me,

13:50.81
Jaime G
That's been done like so many times. I really appreciated the fact that you could play this and be open. I have a coworker. um He recently, like not even a week ago, him and I were talking. He's a big Call of Duty player. And he said, hey, well, the new one's about to release, so I decided to start like just now playing zombies.

14:13.57
Jaime G
And he is like so excited about it. He's telling me, I can't believe I played this forever. This thing, this thing's so good. I said, I know after I played, I got burned out on PVP. This is what i I put my time on. And so, but I'm, I've told you this before. I'm probably going to skip this year's call of duty and, and put my money or my time into, uh,

14:40.84
Jaime G
the Overwatch clone, Marvel Rivals.

14:45.27
tanomsak
Okay. Vance, what do you say? What are you, are you going to be jumping into the black ops six zombie mode?

14:52.94
sentfrmheaven
uh yes i am um and i think that they went back to this way because um what's the saying uh like you could have like too much of something and like, you know, like ruin it or whatever. And so when zombies first came out, it was like a big glitch where it's like, so right now they came out with something ah where your stash can get to 30, but originally it was only 20. You know, you you have 20 slots there. You could exfil with different items, save them for a different game or, you know, whatever. But then, you know, they did it. So another Easter egg where you can run a mission and it will expand to 30.

15:33.83
sentfrmheaven
but there's some people I was one on that there were certain little glitches in the game where you could duplicate what you were doing and like at one point my stash was up in like the two thirties, you know, like other people was, you know, like 256, you know, it was just crazy, you know, so

15:52.14
sentfrmheaven
You know, it was like people started, you know, glitching the game and stuff like that. So then it's just like, you know, like they worked harder to stop in the cheat and zombies than multiplayer. And that was like, that was kind of crazy to me, but it's, but yeah, it's, yeah, I can see why they went back to the, you know, open world mode.

16:17.38
Jaime G
Advanced and you know what you're saying about people cheating and doing stuff people made a business out of this there was people who were ah Playing the game and then selling like good the golden artifacts There was like and and they were doing that hack where you could do that that tombstone and then they were like login like the the same thing that you and I did one time and

16:25.18
sentfrmheaven
Yes.

16:45.33
Jaime G
where you're like, oh yeah, what do you need, bro? I'll get you everything, right? But then people were like selling this. And I guess that's that's when the devs were like, uh-uh.

16:56.57
sentfrmheaven
yeah yeah like it's um like i don't know if y'all seen people play this monopoly gang like on their phone it's like monopoly like trading card game or something like that and uh there's also like a solitary one but yeah but there's people who like let's say if you need park place to complete whatever like they'll like oh you know you need that piece yeah i got it just so you know send me a message Why do I need to send you a message when you're not just seeing the link in the comments? But you're right, Jaime, that's what they're doing. They're charging you like real money to give you a piece that's not gonna get you any real money. And I'm just like, it's just something with, and the reason why people are doing it, because people are buying it.

17:38.28
sentfrmheaven
So it's like, you're like, you can't do nothing with this. Like you can only just go online and say, Hey, look guys, not complete or whatever. But it's like, you're going to pay somebody for something that you can never really use in real life. Like that's crazy.

17:53.72
sentfrmheaven
You know, and I mean now, and um some of the guys home, like even some streamers now, like they're getting banned because, um you know, like they paid for, you know, like different camos and stuff like that because they always have to keep up the appearance that they're really grinding on the game. And it's like, you know, it's like, man.

18:13.74
sentfrmheaven
you know and ah And I think the new call of duty is the guns go to level 42, like you know the the old the old ways. So you know that's a lot of grind, especially if you went diamond and all this other the type camos, you got to grind all these guns. I don't have the time. I do not have the time. And I'm not paying nobody a white ah couple hundred dollars just to say, look what camera I got on the game that I paid $70 for.

18:39.56
tanomsak
Right. um So how many you said you've said that you're not going to be picking up this call duty because you don't you're not liking the direction of the zombies.

18:53.46
tanomsak
So, ah yes, it is going back to round based zombies mode.

18:53.91
Jaime G
That's right.

18:59.06
tanomsak
to And there has been a lot of feedback from the zombies community, I guess, um about

19:10.97
tanomsak
This this is zombies edition. ah They apparently so they're starting with two maps. Right. It's called a one's terminus and one is Liberty Falls.

19:22.27
tanomsak
And a lot of the controversy revolves around Liberty Falls map because it's not zombie enough. So what's your opinion on this?

19:34.12
Jaime G
yeah

19:34.13
tanomsak
So ah Liberty Falls is I guess I don't know what town it is. in America, maybe Pennsylvania and or something like that. ah But it's your idealistic small American town. It's the middle of the day. It's sunny. The zombie outbreak is burst out. The police and the army are responding. And this is the backdrop for the first map. Right. So a lot of the previous versions of

20:08.18
tanomsak
The zombie maps are very, I mean, there's corpses, there's, you know, weird, the sky is colored weird. There's just all kinds of evil sigils and signs everywhere. it' it's It feels, you know, like something is really, really like wrong, right? And this is, it's the middle of the day in an American town and it's just like,

20:33.22
Jaime G
Yeah, there's no tornado a storm kind of yeah.

20:34.63
tanomsak
the most zombie the The zombie stuff that's happening is the zombies are running around.

20:39.17
Jaime G
Yeah.

20:39.63
tanomsak
I mean, obviously there's yeah burning buildings and and cars and stuff like that, but I think the the biggest complaint for the community is is that it's not zombie enough, right?

20:51.26
tanomsak
It just doesn't provide the atmosphere you're looking for.

20:52.17
Jaime G
ah It's not absolutely not.

20:54.33
tanomsak
ah now To counter this, the developers have said, that you know okay, we have we have that's why we have two maps that we're starting with. We're starting with Liberty Falls and we're starting with ah Terminus. Now, Liberty Falls, they have said that the reason that that the design choice they went with that map was because They've kind of like, you know, realized that, you know, you have people that are very, very serious about playing zombies, right? And then you have casuals. And I think they went back and looked at their statistics as like only like, you know, 7% of the player base of people that have Call of Duty finish.

21:37.06
tanomsak
the zombie mode, right? they They go through and complete the main quest line in zombie modes. So what they want to do is to get that number up. So to get that increase in engagement, they're trying to make it more approachable. So by making them approachable, they've come up with the idea that we're going to give you this map.

22:02.49
tanomsak
It's a smaller map. And it's basically like practice, right? You're your you're going to learn how to play this. And if you through this process of learning on an easier map that you you will go on and play probably the harder map.

22:24.49
tanomsak
and their numbers will increase, which is what their objective is. Now, Terminus, ah the other map, it fits a traditional zombies map, right? It's got weird, all kinds of weird stuff going on and all kinds of wild geography and atmosphere and weather and evil creatures roaming around. You know, they got like a,

22:50.01
tanomsak
What do you call it? Like a Leviathan type creature, you know, that pops up and stuff like that. Go ahead.

22:55.72
Jaime G
i but but But that's what they did in the previous iteration, all in one map. If you wanted to roll around the outskirts of the map, no problem. If you wanted to go and have a mid-challenging point and be more darker, layer's like even the even the but is it color scheme of everything is different in between you know the different threat level zones.

23:22.14
Jaime G
It is, I can't say how much good this game did without really knowing. And to go back from from that and be like, well, if you want to go check this map out or go check that map out, ah I'm not sold.

23:41.46
tanomsak
I would have to think that the decisions on why they do things is driven by data, right? So it's like hearing the the fact that they they're, they're, they're throwing out these numbers of player engagement ends at 7%. And only this mean a number of people are completing just the main storyline, not even like all the Easter egg side quests and stuff like that. It's like,

24:11.18
tanomsak
They, they saw like, they're probably looking at it's like, okay, a player that completes 100% of this is more likely to go on and purchase this many items from the store. Right.

24:24.72
tanomsak
where So if we can increase that number, we're going to get more items sold in the store. So whatever their data that they're looking at is saying, go away from this open world model and bring it into a small where the dual map system where one is going to drive hopefully players to the the next map and so on.

24:49.47
tanomsak
and that's my That's what I'm guessing is how the decision-making is evolving in this process. What do you think, Vance?

24:59.27
sentfrmheaven
I definitely think it's like that a journey. But then it's like, you know, certain things you got to just kind of like question you yourself, you know, like, you know, question yourself is like, well, why did they go to the board meeting? And this is what they decided when they came out. Like, you know, certain things they do, you just like, man, like, like making the map smaller.

25:20.72
sentfrmheaven
I think everything they had was just fine. Just give us updates. You know, just give give us an updated version of the big big map, give us maybe you know some different weapons, you know, something like that. Some a little better storytelling, but yeah, go back to like the round base. Like I think that's going to drop that number even smaller because now everybody's used to the open world and now you want to kind of pull it back. And I'm just like, you know, like, uh,

25:47.79
sentfrmheaven
I think that's why Vanguard didn't really do too good because like you give us all these cool weapons and now you want to go back to using old muskets. Like what?

25:57.17
Jaime G
Oh, right.

25:57.36
sentfrmheaven
what Right?

25:58.55
Jaime G
Let me reload. chi i don't wave I don't know if that's a complaint because

26:01.59
sentfrmheaven
I got my bayonet ready. he's Like no, like no. Yeah, so we'll see.

26:08.92
tanomsak
Yeah. Well, I know another, another complaint. Uh, one of the big complaints is there's no offline play. You have to have internet connection to play.

26:27.10
Jaime G
Most of what you can do in the current version of Call of Duty is all online. if I mean, the cool stuff, nobody plays Call of Duty for the campaign. So Warzone, Zombies, ah you know, Mosh Pit. Dude, that's the only thing that people play this for. So the online thing is more and more becoming a thou must have.

26:57.12
tanomsak
Right. Well, there is a response about to that is that by going all online for the zombie mode, i ah for the zombie mode, um have an internet connection, is they have ah installed an auto save feature where if you get disconnected from your game from the game or whatever, it will save. This is obviously in solo mode. ah It will save where you were.

27:26.46
tanomsak
from the last save point, which is when you get to that disconnected. So that's the the other side of always online is they now have the ability to retrieve where you were in the game, where if your system crashed on you before, you basically just had to start over. So.

27:50.72
sentfrmheaven
Well, I can see, like, I definitely see that as being helpful, but they should make an optional only because it's where the last quick couple days ago, they had that that ah the headher outage with PlayStation. I never went back to look it up to see if it was a outage or somebody hacked or whatever. But, you know, you get online, you know, just be talking about the reason why we play games is to get emerged in the game so if I need an online connection and you all get hacked or whatever like that and you cut the network off I can't play the game you know and then it's like companies aren't coming to say hey we're going to reimburse you x y and z because you didn't have access to the network network it's just we're sorry for the inconvenience that's it you know so I spent money on my console spent money on my game let me play whenever you know like give me that option

28:48.47
sentfrmheaven
You know, but that's like that, that, that kind of segues into my, you know, like I tell, uh, you know, it's like, Jake, you were like, we spend a seven dollars on games and we're not even getting a full game because you know, all these updates and shenanigans going on. I'm like, just give me the game.

29:08.02
sentfrmheaven
you know like hey we know the game comes out in October and you know like say October you know 26 through you know November 1st we're gonna release this map but then just give me the game I gave you my money now right I didn't say well I'm gonna give you $20 here you know you dropped the second map I'm leaving another $20 here no give me the game I paid for it

29:29.54
tanomsak
There's a game I don't remember the name of it.

29:30.67
Jaime G
That's funny, man.

29:32.32
tanomsak
There's a game that's coming out. I don't know the name of the game. It's PC game, but it has early access. Opening up and. If you want early access.

29:52.49
tanomsak
It's going to cost you $120 to get into the game.

29:57.16
sentfrmheaven
Sheesh.

29:59.92
tanomsak
But you get you get access like oh November 1st.

30:00.16
Jaime G
This better be the greatest game ever.

30:03.02
sentfrmheaven
Better be.

30:05.61
tanomsak
If you don't pay $120, then there won't be another opportunity to get into the game until like July 1st.

30:15.89
sentfrmheaven
What?

30:16.83
tanomsak
so And it will cost you $60.

30:19.24
Jaime G
Say what?

30:19.37
sentfrmheaven
a

30:20.47
tanomsak
You can spend $60 to get into the game, but you have to wait until July 1st. Or you can spend $120 and get into November 1st. I don't know the name of the game, it's PC game, but...

30:33.98
sentfrmheaven
That's wild. that that like That's wild.

30:37.02
tanomsak
You know, somebody's going to spend it.

30:39.47
sentfrmheaven
Right. Right. it didnt And then they're going to be like, hey, you know, I got the first level of my YouTube, but if you want the whole game walkthrough, come to my premium channel.

30:50.46
sentfrmheaven
you like

30:51.93
tanomsak
Well, that's the thing, there's so many people that are trying to like stream, right? I'm like, I can get i early access to the game.

30:56.61
sentfrmheaven
Right.

30:58.31
tanomsak
Nobody else is going to spend $120 out. So, you know. 50,000 people are going to spend $120 and twenty dollars and they they all have like one person watching them on their streams.

31:11.53
Jaime G
Dude, that's that's out of control.

31:11.96
sentfrmheaven
Right.

31:13.09
Jaime G
That is that is legit out of control.

31:18.32
Jaime G
that's too that No.

31:18.58
sentfrmheaven
yeah

31:20.37
Jaime G
you know Just for doing that, tell me what this game is so I can try to like, yeah.

31:23.03
tanomsak
I remember the name of the game. I saw it on this upcoming video games video, but um so. Back to car duty. ah So it sounds like we got one person that's not interested in the advance. You're the other person that you're probably going to dive in.

31:49.42
sentfrmheaven
Uh, yes. Cause, um, I mean, you know, that's the beauty of a game Sharon. Cause you know, Jackie, she's already like, Hey, I'm gonna be, uh, she wanted, she wanted me to, I know she asked me, was there the diamond camels back? I said, yeah, they are. So she's going to be grinding the gun. So I'm like, well, I'm gonna have to get it for her anyway. So I'm gonna jump in zombies, you know, we'll see what it's like.

32:12.92
tanomsak
Are you going to get it for Xbox or PS5?

32:16.04
sentfrmheaven
Oh, PS five. PS five.

32:17.85
tanomsak
OK. You want to put your money by your.

32:19.15
Jaime G
Plays better on PS5 Pro, though.

32:21.73
tanomsak
Yeah, it will be better on PS5 Pro.

32:22.09
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, let me spend 100 for no disc. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to worry about that. You know, yeah, I'm like, it's, it's, you know, like, I mean, because call of duty is, is, I haven't looked up the numbers yet, but I know it's gonna be a big game as far as like gigabytes.

32:30.48
Jaime G
That was the running gag.

32:42.79
sentfrmheaven
It's gonna be a big game. You know, and I'm just like, no, this straight digital and all these games coming on now are almost a hundred gigs a piece. And then when they send updates, updates, another 20 gigs, you know, cause mine, you have to download the game itself. Then.

33:02.98
sentfrmheaven
i think like the other day no no no two weeks ago they had an update i don't know if y'all got it for call of duty but it's like you had to download the packs and they're either campaign packs multiplayer packs warzone packs 2.0 packs you like like give me the game at least at least

33:15.86
Jaime G
I moved away from Call of Duty like four games ago, man.

33:21.69
tanomsak
You're in for at least 266 gigabytes total.

33:25.46
Jaime G
But but but to be honest, Vance's point is why a friend of mine kept on just blasting Call of Duty. He's like, every single time I want to play and have a gaming session, it's like, oh,

33:41.95
Jaime G
I need to download stuff. I need to do patches. And he was just like really upset. He was like, why can't I just sit down and play this game anymore? And that particularly was the reason why the last Call of Duty game, he was like, that is it. I'm never doing another one.

34:04.46
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, I definitely feel like Call of Duty has its core

34:04.62
tanomsak
Yeah.

34:12.94
sentfrmheaven
audience that you've accepted the fact that you're going to have to deal with some glitches, you're going to have to deal with some cheating, you're going to have to deal with toxicness, right?

34:22.32
Jaime G
The cheaters.

34:24.10
sentfrmheaven
You're going to have to deal with all of this and it's like, you know what, this is how I'm going to deal with it. I'm just going to have to get on and play, you know, I'm just going to have to get on the grind out, you know, And that was a large part of why I didn't play Warzone as much as I did because I was so involved in 2K. And Call of Duty has this thing that they do. Well, they release a battle pass, right? And there's always two new weapons in the battle pass.

34:50.02
sentfrmheaven
anne

34:50.67
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

34:50.69
sentfrmheaven
those weapons are souped up like they're just souped up everybody is running and getting people who don't have the battle pass they're on facebook like hey you know does see if anybody have new weapons they can drop for me because you can go into zombies and drop that weapon and along as long as that's person x field with that weapon they'll have it and like Jaime said that started in dmz that's why people were camping the x fields because you had to go in dmz to get the new guns so once you got the new guns in the museum you're trying to exfil somebody pop out the bushes get get get get get and now they got a new gun that you work hard for you know cuz you just couldn't go in DMZ and randomly find this gun you had to go find a scientist kill the scientists exfil like you had to do a whole bunch of stuff to get this new weapon but once that

35:37.11
sentfrmheaven
Like, so they'll drop the new weapons and then once you kind of play it the next season, they'll nerf those weapons. So they'll bring those weapons back down to regular guns. They don't drop new weapons.

35:47.80
sentfrmheaven
It is just always a rotating grind. And I'm just like, you know, if you're heavy war zone or heavy called duty players, like, you know, you know, you're in for it. So, you know, you just in for the ride.

35:59.43
sentfrmheaven
Like, I know, like, you know, like you just got to make your peace with it, you know,

36:02.02
Jaime G
You just got to make pete your peace with that man.

36:07.30
sentfrmheaven
And I mean, you know, I tell everybody, look, you're, you haven't made your peace with a lot of stuff. Cause nobody is selling, you know, stuff for what it's worth. You know, they're overcharging everywhere in life. So in games, you gotta, you gotta make your peace with them, man. And let's go. Let's go.

36:25.78
tanomsak
Yeah. All right. Do you guys have anything else to add to the Call of Duty zombies discussion?

36:35.48
Jaime G
probably everyone that's listening skip the physical two years ago i bought the physical and it turns out it was just like the greatest rip-off rip-off ever yeah i would not be surprised if they pulled out that one again that was like shady man shady

36:46.87
tanomsak
Empty case.

36:49.24
sentfrmheaven
ya

36:59.78
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, that's yeah that was like you bought this

37:02.71
tanomsak
and You had to wait for it to get delivered to your house, right?

37:05.92
Jaime G
Okay, so I have to wait for it to get delivered from my house. GameStop said, oh, we sold too many copies. You're not going to get the steel case. And then it's like, as soon as you put the pop in the disc, it's not like you can play with the disc. No, you have to download everything. it's I was just like so upset, man.

37:29.21
sentfrmheaven
right it it is crazy because now when you download everything you couldn't play unless you put the disk in right you're right that's crazy yeah

37:34.30
Jaime G
Exactly. That's the thing. Like, this gives your activation key. Well, it's kind of like this. I ah um might have told you that I picked up the Last of Us 2 remaster.

37:50.85
Jaime G
um And the remaster was basically like, it you could get it for $10. But it would always tell you, you need to insert the disk just so that we verify that you have this disk.

38:05.88
Jaime G
So it's like exactly that.

38:07.82
sentfrmheaven
crazy

38:08.17
Jaime G
But at least I paid 10 bucks versus the full price of the game.

38:09.57
sentfrmheaven
It's crazy Yeah Because I think last of us part one is on I Think it's one of the games ah This one.

38:12.84
Jaime G
That's what was shady.

38:21.51
Jaime G
It is part one, yes.

38:22.67
sentfrmheaven
Yeah Part one. Yeah, and you need the extra the extra subscription. I don't know what the lower days but Got the extra little suspicion for that

38:28.56
Jaime G
yeah

38:35.16
Jaime G
So yeah.

38:36.30
tanomsak
Cool. Um, speaking of the last of us, the last of us TV show second season is coming up at the star of the year.

38:49.29
Jaime G
Yeah, that that's, I think that's what we were going to talk about, that I was saying, well, what do we say we're going to talk about without vans here?

38:49.85
sentfrmheaven
That's the one max.

38:56.61
Jaime G
That The rumor mill is strong on this one saying that they might be deviating a little bit from the original plot. There's one major thing that they cannot deviate from.

39:11.07
tanomsak
um Right. Yeah. Well, yeah.

39:16.20
tanomsak
ah Yeah, I mean, I'm sure I'm sure that they're going to deviate from the show.

39:17.28
Jaime G
There is one they cannot deviate from.

39:22.03
tanomsak
I mean, that's for sure they're going to deviate from the show. oh There's one yeah like you said, there's one thing anybody's played the game is knows what I'm talking about.

39:32.79
tanomsak
ah They're not going to deviate or from

39:32.93
Jaime G
Uh, hup.

39:37.52
tanomsak
But. Yeah, I mean,

39:41.75
tanomsak
I'm sure it's still gonna be pretty close. The first season was pretty close. ah theyp it They expanded on some storylines, you know, added depth through some characters and stuff that that were in the original game. They, you know, and they gave whole, dedicated whole episodes too and stuff like that. But I'm sure they're probably kind of following the same line of thinking.

40:07.12
tanomsak
Um, I can try and keep it as true to the original as possible, but there will definitely be some new stuff. And I think that's the best. I mean, I i like the fact that there's new stuff, right? That adds depth to the world and stuff like that.

40:22.79
Jaime G
did Did you, did you guys read that the actress that's playing Abby had to be like hire like extra security when, when, once the news broke out that she was playing Abby.

40:37.70
tanomsak
I wouldn't be surprised.

40:37.75
sentfrmheaven
Mm-mm, I knew we did.

40:39.47
Jaime G
That's wrong guys.

40:39.94
tanomsak
I wouldn't be surprised.

40:41.19
Jaime G
That's wrong.

40:42.11
tanomsak
I will say that. I don't know.

40:46.22
tanomsak
The actress, I can't remember her name, but I know she's been a lot of stuff and the stuff I've seen her in. She's a little skinny, right? I'm like.

40:56.92
Jaime G
Yeah, she's got a bulk up.

40:58.65
tanomsak
Right. I'm like, she's going to have to add some muscle if she's going to be Abby. And I'm really interested to see what she's going to look like with this muscle. It's like you know real muscle or they're like going to make her wear a long sleeve shirts with lots of padding.

41:15.05
Jaime G
ah It better be real muscle.

41:17.46
tanomsak
Yeah, because, you know, Abby was like breaking necks out there with bare hands and stuff. So it's like.

41:23.24
Jaime G
and And that was part of her, the character, like many times in the game, they refer to her as like, yeah, we saw this big old lady that looked that's built like an ox.

41:32.35
tanomsak
Right?

41:33.81
Jaime G
Yes.

41:34.38
tanomsak
But, you know, I don't remember, you you played the game, you know, there's a scene where she's ah with her father and stuff, I think in the zoo.

41:40.30
Jaime G
yes

41:45.99
tanomsak
And she's not that big, right? She's normal size for a female, I guess. I mean, yeah, in a flashback, it was only after

41:51.13
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the flashback sequence.

41:57.45
tanomsak
you know, later on that she broke up when she's trying to plot out her revenge. And she really, so she really bulked up. So.

42:09.17
Jaime G
Yeah, absolutely. I think that. Let's say first off, there's one major detail in the game slash. Series that they cannot deviate from and we all know what that is if you played the game it happens in the first 30 minutes um Abby oh yeah Vance there's there's like totally something that that just breaks Yeah

42:27.41
tanomsak
Vance is going, what what is it? What is it? Vance, you know what detail we're talking about.

42:37.84
sentfrmheaven
ah Let me see, I'm gonna put in the chat real quick.

42:45.54
Jaime G
Anyway, the fact is they cannot deviate from that we're getting into major spoiler territory right now that It depends that you you might oh No, dude that Now You're you're one

42:53.24
tanomsak
Whose father?

43:00.45
sentfrmheaven
Right.

43:11.05
tanomsak
I knew it! I knew it! Vance doesn't know.

43:15.15
Jaime G
You're one game away, dude. You're one game away.

43:21.24
Jaime G
um Maybe.

43:26.80
tanomsak
Okay, well, we won't spoil it for you, Vance.

43:30.79
Jaime G
yeah

43:32.61
tanomsak
Did you watch the whole, did you watch the whole first season?

43:37.46
tanomsak
There was an episode that kind of drove me away, ah if I remember correctly.

43:40.99
Jaime G
Like the first one with with the with the old lady like shaking in his chair.

43:58.10
Jaime G
It was episode one that turned Vance away.

44:05.46
tanomsak
Um, yeah, so I don't know what the release date for that show is. It's probably January, February, but.

44:12.35
Jaime G
I think it's, it's early 2026 and I'm super excited about it because.

44:15.93
tanomsak
No way, 2026.

44:18.75
Jaime G
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

44:18.79
tanomsak
It's been two years.

44:20.64
Jaime G
We're 19 25.

44:22.66
tanomsak
No, we are not. Um.

44:24.81
Jaime G
Okay.

44:27.74
tanomsak
Last of us to.

44:31.44
sentfrmheaven
Yeah, it said expected 25, but it said maybe for the year.

44:33.85
Jaime G
No, you're right. You're right. It is Tony's right.

44:42.08
Jaime G
We're wrong.

44:43.20
tanomsak
Yes Yeah, so okay, so that That'll be a good show to watch you know, man, you can still catch up you got Tom You can just watch somebody stream the video game

44:59.82
Jaime G
You should. use

45:02.33
tanomsak
Um, because you know, you won't, you won't be as put off by, by that. Um,

45:17.80
tanomsak
and so we weren't going to talk about the penguin, but we'll have to wait.

45:24.29
Jaime G
Yeah, except nobody saw it.

45:24.57
sentfrmheaven
We'll save that.

45:27.85
tanomsak
Right. Um, and what else? Anybody got anything else?

45:35.12
sentfrmheaven
Uh-uh, I'm writing the chat.

45:37.45
Jaime G
All right, so I only want to talk about the fact.

45:39.94
tanomsak
I feel like you just cheated and looked that up.

45:42.46
sentfrmheaven
I did, I I did.

45:43.84
Jaime G
he did Yeah, you cheated. totally You totally cheated, man.

45:47.86
tanomsak
You spoiled yourself.

45:49.98
sentfrmheaven
Uh-uh. Not because, because I heard it before. That's why I put the first one, because I knew it was, it was, you know, the get back or something, but I just can't remember who it was, but I know it was longer.

46:00.46
Jaime G
i All right, so all for all those who are listening, Vance didn't know the answer, what the big twist is. Well, not twist, but the plot line for The Last of Us 2, he goes and Googles it and puts it in the chat window as like, yeah, I know what this is.

46:21.78
sentfrmheaven
ah a a The audience can't be lost, but the hosts cannot.

46:31.21
sentfrmheaven
Like, yeah, I remember that.

46:31.49
Jaime G
Yes. ah I was gonna ask anybody, has anybody played Astro Bot?

46:41.55
tanomsak
Have not.

46:41.87
sentfrmheaven
I have a knot.

46:43.11
tanomsak
The new one, right?

46:44.79
Jaime G
The new one.

46:45.30
sentfrmheaven
I have a knot.

46:46.80
Jaime G
Okay. So I have been playing it i ah two two ways. First off, I've been watching my son play it because I've been trying to like review this and get my own you know thoughts on the game.

46:59.59
Jaime G
Second, I actually have started my own playthrough. And this game is legit. Just a cute game.

47:11.56
tanomsak
Mm hmm.

47:12.35
Jaime G
It's it's easy. It's not hard. I actually think that it burn it took me back to an era of me playing um Super Mario 64. It kind of feels like that.

47:27.18
Jaime G
um It's been, I'm not gonna say that it's been like, oh, this is the greatest game ever. I'd be lying to you if I said that.

47:39.72
Jaime G
But it's not been a bad run. It's actually, you know, the the one thing I did not catch is because the the the game that came with the PS5, my son was the one who just like grinded on that for like forever. um He was the one that I was, I was saying, hey, you know, the the songs are really catchy on this. And he's like, that they're they're the same songs from the from the original one.

48:07.50
Jaime G
I was like, what? I know. He's like, yeah, that they're the same. So, but it's, it's legit better than what my expectations were originally going into this game.

48:20.21
tanomsak
Cool.

48:21.39
Jaime G
Yeah.

48:22.85
tanomsak
Yeah, I mean, everybody says it's great, so I'm sure it is. It's like. I mean, it's a cute platformer.

48:29.98
Jaime G
No, no, it's not, it's not great. It's cute.

48:35.91
sentfrmheaven
cute.

48:37.16
Jaime G
it's cute yeah definitely check it out uh i would wait for it till it goes you know on the cheap but it is it is like never yeah and and you will buy it

48:37.43
tanomsak
OK, so she's checking out, right?

48:48.93
tanomsak
Oh, that that's what I'm waiting on. I mean, for Sony, that's going to be like two years from now. ah Right. They're cheap is like, oh, here's five bucks.

49:03.15
sentfrmheaven
Exactly.

49:06.12
tanomsak
Yeah. Um.

49:11.44
tanomsak
So for the audience, we have our Halloween episode that's going to be coming up in a few weeks. So for that particular episode, ah we've all decided to do a play through of the game Man of Medan. It's a game from Supermassive, right? famous for The studio famous for a bunch of narrative-driven horror games, like Until Dawn, yeah, The Quarry, which is a newer one, right?

49:41.33
Jaime G
Until Dawn, the quarry, the casting of Frank West or Frank Castle, whatever. Yeah, that's their their most recent one.

49:50.37
tanomsak
Right, so the Man of Medan is from from their anthology of games, I think there's four of them, Dark dark Pictures Anthology.

49:58.82
Jaime G
The dark pictures, right?

50:03.64
tanomsak
ah So we're all doing a play through separately. And then we're going to be talking about that during that episode, Halloween special episode. So be sure to catch that episode when it airs.

50:15.11
tanomsak
Also, if you want to play along, you know be sure to jump in on that game, get it from ah the PlayStation Plus store. I think maybe.

50:26.85
Jaime G
Maybe. Maybe.

50:29.58
tanomsak
don't download the trial version

50:30.54
sentfrmheaven
Right, maybe.

50:33.19
sentfrmheaven
Yes, if you have whatever the highest tier is, is um you can, I guess, stream play it from a PlayStation.

50:33.45
Jaime G
Yeah.

50:33.47
tanomsak
ah

50:40.41
Jaime G
Well, no, but the thing is that this thing was on PlayStation Plus a couple of years ago. And I got it a couple of years ago, and now that I went to download it and get it, it's like, oh, nope.

50:53.23
Jaime G
You downloaded the the child version. I was like, say what?

50:55.16
tanomsak
Don't download the trial version.

50:56.83
Jaime G
No way that I downloaded the child version.

50:58.83
tanomsak
right um so yeah if you want to compare your playthrough to ours you know while we talk about it on the our Hollywood episode I check it out that's I just finished it last night it probably took me told maybe four hours to do complete playthrough it's not long at all you can do it and literally one afternoon. But that check out, be sure to check out our Halloween episode when that airs and check out that game if you want.

51:34.02
Jaime G
So I've already talked to Jayrod. I don't know if you remember Jayrod. He's a good guy. He's been playing with us for some time in the past. um I've already convinced him to do a play through. So he's going to be playing that as well.

51:48.52
tanomsak
Right. Well, we'll be comparing, obviously, how many people we get to survive at at the hands of our, you know, of us. ah how How did the the main narrator of the game put it? There are charges.

52:10.72
tanomsak
Right. the How many the main characters, how many survive. So we'll be interesting to see what our accomplishment, what your accomplishment is.

52:16.25
Jaime G
And and the I think the larger question I had is, will Vance be able to play this game?

52:25.41
sentfrmheaven
Yay, we will see.

52:26.36
tanomsak
Four hours of terror.

52:29.33
sentfrmheaven
All right. I'm gonna call out the next day.

52:38.50
Jaime G
We will see if he can tolerate this game.

52:38.50
tanomsak
All right. Maybe we can get advanced to record himself playing it and put that up on the YouTube channel that you know so people people can see it.

52:44.29
sentfrmheaven
Hey, that can happen.

52:50.01
Jaime G
Vance, did you see me log into your Twitch the other day?

52:53.66
sentfrmheaven
uh yes yes i was speaking to you i don't know if my mic mic was ah unmuted and sometimes i forget to mute my mic but uh yeah i saw you on the comment yeah yeah

53:00.04
Jaime G
No, it wasn't working out, but I, I, uh, I got on mine because I saw that he was playing something. I was like, what? No, man. I'm a Dan. What's up with this?

53:12.83
tanomsak
All right, cool.

53:13.88
sentfrmheaven
yeah

53:15.63
tanomsak
All right, so we got tonight. Thanks for joining us e in advance, you know.

53:22.33
sentfrmheaven
Yes, sir. Always a pleasure.

53:24.91
tanomsak
ye And then Jaime, same to you.

53:27.86
Jaime G
Yep. Yeah.

53:29.94
tanomsak
All right, so, yep, and we'll catch you guys on the next episode.

53:30.71
Jaime G
Happy gaming.

53:34.92
tanomsak
Be sure to check out our Discord and our other

53:40.71
tanomsak
our website with our episodes and stuff. So check that out. And we'll catch you guys later.

53:47.92
Jaime G
All right.

53:48.92
sentfrmheaven
All right, later.

53:48.96
Jaime G
Talk to you guys soon.