Can We Survive Man of Medan, DeadSpace Remake and Silent Hill 2 Remake!

It's our big Halloween Episode and this year we're all played 'Man of Medan' from Super Massive. Which one of us got his wards safely from the horrors of a ghostly ship. Plus, Vance tries his hand at the 'Deadspace Remake' and Tony conquers 'Silent Hill 2 Remake' and gives his impressions. 

Transcript

00:00:07.35
Sentfrmheaven
All right.

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Sentfrmheaven
We are going wild in three, two, one.

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Sentfrmheaven
All right, we are live in three, two,

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Tony Sisk
Hi everybody. Welcome back to good to game radio. I'm your host Tony speaking. And here we are tonight. It's a few days from Halloween and I've got the gang all gathered here today. And we're going to get into some spooky video game discussion and, um, and whether of the topics that might pop up, uh, or, you know, come up out of the grave. No guys, what's going on? Tommy.

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Jaime G
hey dude it's been it's been a while i was just listening to a recent podcast i just got published earlier in the week and i think today we got a really interesting twist on some of the things that we're going to be talking about because we have a theme and we all got like multiple things that you know we're all we all made sure that we're all on a similar game page so we can talk about it today so i'm looking forward to today

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Tony Sisk
Awesome. Vance.

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Sentfrmheaven
What's up?

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Tony Sisk
It's been

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Sentfrmheaven
What's up? How y'all doing? It's been a while. It's been a while. But I'm excited.

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Tony Sisk
a couple of weeks, yeah, yeah.

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Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, I'm excited to be here. I'm excited. I'm excited. Halloween!

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Tony Sisk
Yeah, I was on the road today. I was in Northern Alabama. I went to a Renaissance festival. And yeah, that was actually interesting, was to say. Very interesting.

00:02:15.61
Tony Sisk
That's another discussion. But, uh, on the way back, I was telling Amy about our, uh, our Halloween plans for tonight. And she's like, wait, means it doesn't do scary.

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Sentfrmheaven
ah That's the thing.

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Tony Sisk
You're right, man. It doesn't do scary, but he said he was going to do scary this year. So he, he, he stepped up to the plate and, uh, it took part in the,

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Tony Sisk
ah Halloween games, you know, that we selected ah to play this year. And it's going to be interesting to hear his experience because we we all know that ah Vance is, you know, despite his rough exterior and his manly much, you know, just approach to things that he is a softy and a scaredy cat.

00:03:06.46
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, hey for all my baseball fans out there, you know, I stepped up like a like Freeman did last night, you know, I don't know if y'all see the walk on home run, but that's what I do.

00:03:15.38
Tony Sisk
Uh-uh.

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Sentfrmheaven
Yes, sir. I think the 10th and the 10th and the two went extra in his, you know, he hit the home run.

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Tony Sisk
Nice. Walk off. Nice. OK.

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Sentfrmheaven
ah Yes, sir.

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Tony Sisk
So we go we're going to get a walkoff walk off tonight with a mic drop moment or something like that in in in our overview and a playback of ah what happened in our the games that we played.

00:03:45.45
Tony Sisk
So, Jaime, why don't you give us some background on what we're doing with the the first game that that we kind of themed around for tonight.

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Jaime G
All right. alright Let me, let me introduce the game and then Vance will talk, will take us through what we set out to do. Okay. So we all, all three of us, I'm going to introduce a little, a little, I don't know if it's and you would consider it a gym, but we're, we're, I'm going to introduce the game that's called man of Medam this game.

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Jaime G
came out originally for PlayStation 4, Windows, and Xbox One somewhere around in 2019. I particularly missed it. But then it had a second life. It came back from the dev, so to say, ah for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X in 2022. So it got a second chance of life.

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Jaime G
and around some time here is when it went on PlayStation Plus and I downloaded it and I must have messed up or something because I had to buy it physical to be actually to be able to play it. And this game is focused around what they called ah the dark pictures and anthology. right This is a series of interactive drama, survival, horror, video games, right which with what may seem like maybe some paranormal elements on it, but it's really, spoiler, you have to play it to really find out what's going on.

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Jaime G
um which has been developed by Supermassive Games and it was published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. The same Bandai Namco that's publishing Tekken 8, one of the you know greatest ah games in the fighting game community too, is published this one. Supermassive Games did, before this one, a very successful gem, this one I will call a gem, which was Until Dawn. Until Dawn was quite successful that ah After having a good run on physical and digital, it came it came out on PS Plus and a lot of people got it too. Tony, I think you've shared that you've had, you know, parties over at your place to have people come in and play until dawn and, you know, see kind of what their story is. um So in this this whole series of games that was called the Dark Pictures Anthology, Man of Medan was the very first one

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Jaime G
And there was there was actually three more sequels to this. We're not going to focus on the sequels. We're just going to focus on this very first one that none of us had played. And it's one of those games kind of where you're reading one of those books that's that you make your own path based on the decisions that you make.

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Jaime G
And because there's so many decisions you can make, we're going to talk about that. Each, you can, a player can significantly and alter their path and have different branching storylines, et cetera. Okay. And you can even change how your characters react to each other because you can build trust or you can, you know, build animosity against somebody based on the the choices that you make. So that is Man of Medan in a nutshell.

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Jaime G
And Vance, tell us kind of what the whole premise of this activity was.

00:07:09.78
Sentfrmheaven
Um, so since, uh, Halloween is coming up in what, five days. So we were like, well, let's, uh, you know, do some, um, jumps, jumps, jump, scared gang. So we ended up, uh, doing our main game is manna medallion. Um, and, uh, we pretty much, it's like, I don't, I don't have another, a lot of, uh,

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Sentfrmheaven
knowledge in the in the right ah words for these category games. But pretty much it's a choice-based game where you get to make choices um based on like district different decisions that pop up. And depending on the choices you make, it either makes a relationship stronger with a character, or it makes it worse, or you know like you could lose some people.

00:07:53.59
Sentfrmheaven
you know so But along the way, it's, ah yeah.

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Jaime G
And that's that's the story.

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Sentfrmheaven
Now go ahead. Yeah. you know so

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Jaime G
Yeah, that's the story. You can lose some people.

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Sentfrmheaven
you can lose some people. So, you know, you your your premise is trying to get everybody safe. But, you know, the the objective was for us is, you know, we have three different personalities on the show. We have three different decisions going into the game. So just to see how the outcome was and how everybody's adventure and, um you know, along the way, how it how did everybody ah everybody do, you know, so.

00:08:28.78
Sentfrmheaven
I had a lot of fun. I'm not gonna lie. I had a lot of fun, you know. My daughter, she was sick, but she stayed and watched me from beginning to end. You know, she had fun too. You know, we look like, hmm. Well, we had a good time though.

00:08:43.57
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah, so what's great about this particular game um is that you can really just play it in an afternoon. I think four hours is probably the total time it takes to play through the game.

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Tony Sisk
No interruptions, maybe not even that long, truthfully. um Three and a half, yeah.

00:09:00.37
Jaime G
Three and a half.

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Tony Sisk
So it's ah it's a fairly quick play through. ah Your description is correct and is like those old school venture books that you you know we checked out of the library as a kid. you know Choose your own adventure where you have branching decision points and you have to you know make a decision. Oh, should I do this decision A or B? And it's going to lead you to a different outcome or the narrative is going to change based on that decision. So being a computer game, it obviously has way more branching trees that it can do, right?

00:09:36.85
Tony Sisk
I could imagine like if they did this in a book, how thick the book would need to be because every there's like a decision, yeah there's like little decisions that go throughout the game, right? And they typically influence like the relationship between characters. Like if you do something to make, if I were to do something to make Jaime mad, you know, or or disapproving of me, then our relationship is gonna go down. Interestingly, there will actually be choices that would happen based on where we are in our relationship. So more more choices will happen ah based you know if we if we have a positive relationship, there'll be a different ah branches of decision making that's going to happen. If we have a poor relationship, those ah choices that would have been in the positive arena

00:10:29.77
Tony Sisk
are not going to up appear, now you're going to have choices that are based on a poor relationship. um So yeah, it's it's it's really fascinating. I played Until Dawn. It's like literally from the same company of supermassive games. And it was originally on PS4. Fantastic party game when this first came out, like Jaime ah Said we had people come over and everybody would sit on the couch be like 10 people and everybody would shout, you know What we would need to do and there's a timer on the decision. yeah You can hear clicking in it and it's got a graph that kind of like a an hourglass with the Time running out and you have to make a choice with a certain amount of time You just can't sit there and like oh, um let me go get a drink and think about it, right? You have a few seconds to think about it interesting you have

00:11:20.58
Tony Sisk
ah two primary choices that you make, right? And it will tell you kind of like, I don't know how they base the descriptive word under each choice, but you don't have to actually make a choice.

00:11:34.84
Tony Sisk
You could choose not to make a choice and it would go on, right?

00:11:37.86
Jaime G
That's, that's actually the third choice, Tony. You can always choose, you can always choose to not do anything.

00:11:41.29
Tony Sisk
There's a third choice, not to make a choice.

00:11:45.66
Jaime G
And that is the thing that will keep you from making a perfect run on this. There's things that you have to make no choices on, but okay.

00:11:57.16
Tony Sisk
you know

00:11:57.84
Jaime G
Let's, we'll talk about that later.

00:11:58.66
Tony Sisk
beyond beyond the the

00:11:59.38
Jaime G
Okay.

00:12:00.63
Tony Sisk
Beyond that's the main mechanic. and The main mechanic is just making a decision. right um There will be opportunities as you go, usually in tense situations.

00:12:12.94
Tony Sisk
Uh, some action is happening where you have to make quick time decisions, right? And there's an old school game mechanic, but it's used heavily in this. So it's like, Oh, press X at this moment and press circle at this moment.

00:12:25.86
Tony Sisk
Obviously you have to know your controller fairly well, uh, to figure out you ah save you some time. But you know, you're talking a couple of seconds, maybe to make a choice in that regard.

00:12:37.57
Jaime G
No, no, there are some sequences where you're trying to hold your breath hiding from somebody.

00:12:44.21
Tony Sisk
That's more of a rhythm-based QuickTime event.

00:12:44.55
Jaime G
And and and exactly, it's it's not just pressing the button, it's also the rhythm at which you're like, trying not to breathe, not make a sound.

00:12:50.99
Tony Sisk
right

00:12:54.33
Jaime G
And I i was like, what?

00:12:54.96
Tony Sisk
right yeah and Based on like the the difficulty level you have the game set to, they could these are shorter periods of time that you react to these things.

00:13:08.29
Tony Sisk
But so anyway, that's general that's how the game is set up, the object. There's five main characters in this game, right, ah that you're introduced to and the object.

00:13:19.71
Tony Sisk
is to get through the game and bring everybody home alive, right? So you are basically responsible for their survival. And there is a another character that's kind of like, I don't know, but there it's not a narrator, it's kind of like a I don't know, an observer and he's going to, there's like periods of time when it's basically acts. When the act ends, he'll show up or you'll, you'll appear in his, his library or whatever. And he will like, Oh, you know, you've kept everybody alive so far. Let's see what comes next. You know, something like that. He's kind of a creepy dude, but, uh, it's interesting that the the interaction he's just like this.

00:14:06.14
Tony Sisk
Objective observer and he's going to opine on how well you're doing or how bad you're doing or he might give you a Initially help you out in some way or or fashion now another mechanic that's happening in this game is There are pictures that are scattered throughout that you randomly find now these things are are they give you a glimpse into look the future, right? So there are pictures of ships that you find hanging on a wall. When you you look at the picture, it will show you like a two second glimpse of something in the future. Now on your initial playthrough, you're not going to know what this is. Or if you did if you're choosing a different

00:14:51.87
Tony Sisk
decision tree, if you've played it before, you may not know what it might be something totally different. But yeah, so it's good. But you have to kind of piece it together. It's really overall mystery with a horror shell around it. So you're trying to we're trying to solve the the a mystery and get everybody out alive. So that's that's the object of this game. So the game starts out, and I'll give us a, before we get into each other's decision or play through, playthrough typically the first

00:15:30.17
Tony Sisk
the 10 minutes is the same for everybody more than likely right because that's the introduction to the story so i'll set the stage it is 19 i think it's 1947 post-war war two uh china and you have a u.s navy ship that's being loaded with you know cargo it's dead of night ah And the ship leaves port. Encounters a storm. And then some crazy stuff are happening on the ship with you. You're introduced to a couple of soldiers on and you see through their eyes and you control them for a little bit. And there's just crazy stuff going on the ship. And then the ship is basically lost at sea. Right. And then we go into the main story.

00:16:19.97
Tony Sisk
where you're introduced to our main characters, and they're and they're going to go in search of a shipwreck. And then from there, it goes on to they end up on the ship. So who wants to go first with their playthrough?

00:16:35.86
Jaime G
i'll go I'll go first, I'll go first. Okay, so look, um um' um I'm gonna just start this and say, I did not make it with all characters out. All right, just gonna say that. I think out of the five characters, I lost three. And it was like, I lost three characters. And, and,

00:17:05.88
Jaime G
and And it's so frustrating because when you lose a character, the decision that makes you lose the the the question that you have to answer is never is never like quite apparent that, oh, this is a bad choice.

00:17:20.29
Jaime G
Don't pick this.

00:17:22.62
Tony Sisk
before before you you reveal which characters you lost and how you lost them, just a heads up to everybody.

00:17:22.68
Jaime G
Okay.

00:17:30.34
Tony Sisk
This this game will probably have I mean, us our discussion of this is going to have spoilers in it, right? So.

00:17:36.20
Sentfrmheaven
Good luck.

00:17:37.40
Tony Sisk
I mean, we'll try not to reveal the overall mystery of things like. What the ultimate cause of that, so no, let's not reveal like the ultimate reason why things are happening, but

00:17:47.70
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:50.66
Tony Sisk
So we'll let you guys figure that for yourself if you want to play the game. But so there will be some obviously some spoilers. So go ahead.

00:17:57.80
Jaime G
Yeah. All right. So the first, the first guy I lost was Iceman now. Okay. So because they're using like real actors to do like the motion capture for this game, there's one character in it that I kept on watching seeing him. I was like, I've seen this cat somewhere.

00:18:17.89
Jaime G
He was the guy that that played x ah Iceman on the first trilogy of the X-Men movies.

00:18:26.73
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:18:27.00
Jaime G
ah before Before Deadpool and Wolverine merged everything and you know what did whatever they did. And I was like so upset. He was the first character that I lost. And this is like Conrad.

00:18:37.03
Tony Sisk
So you're talking about Conrad.

00:18:40.30
Jaime G
And this is like you're pretty advanced and in the game by the time that this happened because I was at that point where he's being chased down by something and I made it all the way to this point where I was faced with two two questions. Either jump off this ledge to certain doom or fight this entity that's been chasing you. And I'm thinking, okay, none no option is really good really at this point. So I said, okay, if I fight this this thing, I'm dead.

00:19:17.98
Jaime G
Maybe if I jump off, maybe there's gonna be a cinematic. He's gonna grab onto a ledge or something and survive, but he does not.

00:19:28.19
Jaime G
I mean, in the face of that ah scenario, if that were me in real life, I ain't fighting no entity, man.

00:19:28.29
Sentfrmheaven
Ehhhhh.

00:19:37.98
Jaime G
um

00:19:38.18
Tony Sisk
All right, ah right so so Conrad, now interesting that Conrad, you mentioned Conrad because there's a decision point earlier in the game that involves Conrad.

00:19:40.20
Jaime G
Conrad. conra

00:19:51.50
Tony Sisk
It's really one of the main, like first couple of main decision branches ah where your character's life is really hanging in the balance. And it's interesting that you actually Uh, obviously chose, uh, you know, the path that would lead you to where you're, you're talking about.

00:20:11.60
Tony Sisk
So we'll get back.

00:20:11.81
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:20:12.20
Tony Sisk
it' We'll get back into that.

00:20:13.26
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:20:13.44
Tony Sisk
Once we hear Francis, thanks.

00:20:14.87
Jaime G
And actually, honestly, I'm i'm just going to say this. I was really upset to lose Conrad because this whole time I was thinking like, Conrad's got to be a ah double agent.

00:20:26.91
Jaime G
He's got to be like the bad guy in this. Cause you know, the narrator, he actually kept on saying like, nothing is what it seems. There might be some people who are like not good. And, and he has like,

00:20:37.91
Tony Sisk
So what's, what's go ahead. I'm sorry.

00:20:41.15
Jaime G
He has like this inner monologue at one point where he's like having this narration, like he's talking to somebody as if like, hey, you took it too far. You know, you punched me in the face. you That's not what you were supposed to do. And I was thinking like, yo, this guy is a bad dude.

00:20:57.02
Tony Sisk
but Because he thought that it was all like a birthday scam right like That that they oh man, this is this is a serious party trick you guys are pulling right?

00:21:04.03
Jaime G
I don't know. um I mean, I will never figure it out. Yeah.

00:21:10.26
Tony Sisk
Okay The love of Conrad Mm

00:21:10.66
Jaime G
Anyways, so I lost Conrad, right? So second is I lost Fliss, the ship captain.

00:21:21.49
Jaime G
Yeah. Well, the, the, the romantic interest, let's say that.

00:21:24.96
Tony Sisk
-hmm

00:21:25.20
Jaime G
And, and, and i and, and based on the choices that I made throughout the game, I get to a point where you're like at gunpoint by one of the, by one of the but bad guys.

00:21:36.72
Jaime G
And you're trying to like talk him through to like, basically not shoot you. I failed.

00:21:45.26
Jaime G
And by the way, this guy's name's Junior. It wasn't just me or did Junior look like he had like a bullet hole in his head all the time. Cause he had like blood or something that was covered up by a bandana.

00:21:54.00
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

00:21:57.16
Jaime G
And I was always thinking like, what is up with this character of the model for this guy? Anyway, flis that was my second one to kick the bucket. Third one was Conrad's sister.

00:22:10.52
Jaime G
and you know And you know why this was so upsetting? Because it it it again, it was a point where it was like, choose choose to fight this entity or do nothing. I'm fighting the entity. Bam, bam. Well, shame on me.

00:22:26.07
Sentfrmheaven
Shane.

00:22:26.47
Tony Sisk
I know what point you're talking about. Uh huh.

00:22:30.44
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:22:30.49
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I know where you're, where, where that happened at.

00:22:33.82
Jaime G
Yeah. So ah out of the five characters, I got the two brothers out alive. And one of them was like pretty upset that his, you know, future fiance is gone.

00:22:46.76
Jaime G
And, you know, I'm not going to give out much, much more things, but he's sad.

00:22:52.54
Tony Sisk
He should be.

00:22:52.56
Jaime G
Like life, life changing, sad. And, and I found out as much as I could.

00:22:57.53
Tony Sisk
He probably doesn't survive that. He probably doesn't survive that.

00:23:02.01
Jaime G
All right. That was my play through. I, okay. Out of the five characters, the two brothers made it out of alive.

00:23:08.20
Tony Sisk
So the two brothers made it. Okay, so the victims of Jaime's leadership, four choices were Julia, Flith, and Conrad.

00:23:15.68
Jaime G
Poor choices. Iceman.

00:23:27.73
Tony Sisk
All right, Vance, let's hear, let's hear what you, what'd you, what was your success rate?

00:23:34.38
Sentfrmheaven
My sis my success rate what name was same as Jaime's I got the brothers out Three dad three dad and ship captain Conrad and Julia Julia wasn't my fault In the situation that we were in I made the right decision yeah I Made the right decision the options that were presented, you know and um so

00:23:41.74
Jaime G
My man.

00:23:42.02
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:23:54.08
Jaime G
Exactly, right?

00:24:02.82
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, just looking at the trailer, I kind of figured like there were some ah you know like button presses that you had to do. And my first one was on Conrad. ah ah

00:24:12.74
Jaime G
I know.

00:24:13.74
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, it's so funny, because when that happened at Conrad, you know how when you go through the story, everybody's like, hey, I wonder what's going on with Conrad. I wonder, well, what is he doing? Is he coming back with the Coast Guard? Conrad's stinking on the boat.

00:24:31.60
Jaime G
Dude, okay, so you so you lost them early, early in the game, man.

00:24:32.20
Sentfrmheaven
ah Conrad did make it. Early, early, like, I was like, what? And you know, I thought I hit the button on time.

00:24:43.66
Sentfrmheaven
Conrad, I made a decision to, you know, jump off. He did. And man, I'm like, first of all, I ain't never seen anybody be a sniper with a, with a God dang, you know, short barrel anyway, but whatever.

00:24:56.27
Sentfrmheaven
yeah But yeah, so denim, so I don't know. Well, so there was something that I seen earlier that, you know, put it in my head that this thing was a thing.

00:25:10.84
Sentfrmheaven
And that's how I lost the captain of the boat. Cause I thought it was the thing that I saw earlier. So, you know, I had to handle business.

00:25:18.47
Jaime G
I know.

00:25:19.41
Sentfrmheaven
I had to handle business.

00:25:19.68
Tony Sisk
So Fliss, so, so Fliss.

00:25:20.97
Sentfrmheaven
Yes. The police, i right. The police, you know, I had to handle business, you know, and dang.

00:25:31.62
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, I was like, hey, I'm getting this, you know, because you know how, you know, you had to do the thing you do, you know, when the turn read, I was like, Oh, I got to get it. if

00:25:40.28
Tony Sisk
So you're so Fliss dies at the point.

00:25:45.20
Jaime G
Where my

00:25:45.28
Tony Sisk
Who is it? That Julia died.

00:25:48.15
Jaime G
in my, in my play through.

00:25:48.88
Tony Sisk
For Hymies, yes.

00:25:50.28
Jaime G
Yes.

00:25:50.69
Sentfrmheaven
See, I got Julie out of that situation.

00:25:51.67
Jaime G
I know, I know exactly the point. Yeah.

00:25:54.62
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Yeah. Cause then, cause, um, so.

00:25:57.45
Jaime G
But again, that that's one of those things in the game though, that I was saying you have chose a or choice B and you always forget that you have the choice of do nothing.

00:26:07.03
Sentfrmheaven
Right Right So now let me ask you this honey because we haven't we haven't if ah we haven't we don't know if for one of the brothers live with Tony, right?

00:26:07.60
Jaime G
And that's one of those points you you where you have to do nothing for this to be a happy ending.

00:26:20.52
Jaime G
We have not talked about this before.

00:26:23.53
Sentfrmheaven
oh Um can I ask the question not spoiling how did you know how to save the brother Julia's fiance when uh when you were in the, in the ship.

00:26:40.77
Jaime G
Okay, i I just said like, I'm gonna let this other guy live. So I was like, this is what I would do in real life. You know, that was my whole, my whole mentality. What would I do in real life through this play through? And at one point I decided to show mercy to one of the bad guys and I'm glad I did.

00:27:01.87
Sentfrmheaven
see See now that's how I started the game off because um you know there were some choices you know because even because like before you even like you know get to it it's like you had to make you had to make choices about the wreck you know because it's like ah the one of the brothers named Fleece you know they're having that conversation back and forth you know and it's like You know, you could be arrogant or you could be like, hey, I'm sorry, I apologize.

00:27:31.74
Sentfrmheaven
So that's, you know, the route that I was going, like you said, Jaime at the beginning, it was, you know, I'm gonna do the right thing as far as like, then I was like, you know what, let's make the game fun. Bad man.

00:27:40.70
Tony Sisk
I'll say, you guys bring up an interesting point.

00:27:41.64
Sentfrmheaven
You know, it was me.

00:27:43.73
Tony Sisk
and like we As video game players, whatever, we're used to make a decision, make an action.

00:27:43.94
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:27:54.20
Tony Sisk
Effect happens immediately, usually. right And in this game, the consequences for decisions don't always appear immediately.

00:28:07.06
Tony Sisk
It could literally be at the end of the game where the consequence that you made early in the game for a decision, right? Like, and that in my play through happened early game decision.

00:28:21.85
Tony Sisk
Consequence didn't appear until the credits were rolling basically.

00:28:25.74
Jaime G
Oh, oh, oh, I know what you're talking about. Is it, is this like the decompression and beer choice?

00:28:33.08
Tony Sisk
Not for me, it wasn't.

00:28:34.69
Jaime G
Okay.

00:28:37.04
Tony Sisk
That would have been for I think Vance.

00:28:37.61
Sentfrmheaven
Right. See, that was my choice, honey. That was my choice.

00:28:40.76
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:41.12
Sentfrmheaven
The beer and the decompression.

00:28:44.06
Jaime G
Okay. Sorry.

00:28:45.99
Tony Sisk
So, yeah.

00:28:46.44
Jaime G
Go ahead.

00:28:48.25
Tony Sisk
So, yeah, a lot of times you don't even know the effects like and until way later, which, you know, kind of sucks because I don't count. Vance, are you done with your with your scorecard?

00:29:03.44
Jaime G
No, no, no. i think I think we still have to understand.

00:29:04.67
Sentfrmheaven
Uh, yeah, I think so.

00:29:05.48
Jaime G
We still have to know how one more character kicks the bucket.

00:29:08.19
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:29:13.04
Tony Sisk
So who's your other character, Vance?

00:29:13.75
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, Julia. So, so, yeah, Jaime, when you was just talking about the whole beer and, uh, that's how, that's how mine, mine kicked the bucket.

00:29:26.83
Jaime G
Yeah. If, if you don't, if you, yeah, and this is one of those like late in the game things that you realize.

00:29:36.74
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:29:37.16
Jaime G
Okay.

00:29:38.15
Tony Sisk
So, okay. For me. So wait, let's go back and review.

00:29:43.52
Jaime G
All right. How many did yours? Okay. Yeah. Let's review.

00:29:46.40
Tony Sisk
So Vance, you lost three. Jaime, you lost three.

00:29:50.91
Jaime G
We lost the same ones.

00:29:52.11
Tony Sisk
Right. I lost one. Right. And it was at the very end of the game after everybody had escaped. there was a consequence and it was Conrad.

00:30:07.84
Tony Sisk
And it was, yeah, Conrad died at the very end of my play through.

00:30:08.19
Jaime G
Iceman.

00:30:16.44
Tony Sisk
And he wasn't even on the ship for the entirety of the game.

00:30:23.59
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

00:30:25.75
Tony Sisk
At the point that he died in Vance's play through, he survived in mine. I guess I was just better at the dodging of bullets. um

00:30:38.11
Tony Sisk
And so thus. He escaped. ah However, after everybody escaped off the main vessel.

00:30:51.59
Tony Sisk
And the credits are rolling. This turkey shows back up.

00:30:57.26
Tony Sisk
And then proceeds

00:30:57.36
Jaime G
Wait, wait, wait is, I don't know what, what happened in your play through, but in my play through at the end, when the credits are rolling, there's like the military shows up and that's how they get the brothers out.

00:30:58.96
Tony Sisk
ah

00:31:05.50
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

00:31:08.27
Jaime G
I know actually the brothers get off the boat. Sorry.

00:31:11.24
Tony Sisk
Your brothers got off on the boat, right?

00:31:13.43
Jaime G
Yeah, that's right.

00:31:14.24
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:31:14.79
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:15.01
Tony Sisk
The military shows the yeah the military shows up in a helicopter, right?

00:31:19.23
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

00:31:20.74
Tony Sisk
In my play through, when the helicopter lands on the ship, Conrad gets off. No, he doesn't even get off the helicopter. The helicopter doesn't. The helicopter didn't show up in my game.

00:31:34.71
Tony Sisk
The Coast Guard showed up in a boat and Conrad and Conrad got off the boat and went onto the ship after everybody had already left.

00:31:38.68
Jaime G
Oh, no, man. i

00:31:47.93
Sentfrmheaven
Hmm That's crazy

00:31:50.47
Tony Sisk
And the very last scene of the game is him succumbing to the evils of the ship.

00:31:55.69
Jaime G
No.

00:31:56.75
Tony Sisk
Yes.

00:31:59.36
Jaime G
It's like, why come? Why come back?

00:32:03.01
Tony Sisk
He. He was looking for his friends and his sister.

00:32:09.97
Tony Sisk
So.

00:32:10.42
Jaime G
I'm kind of upset at this point.

00:32:12.32
Tony Sisk
But I got it. And while on the ship with everybody involved on the ship, I managed to get everybody through safely and escape. So.

00:32:24.62
Tony Sisk
um Overall, I had a great time with the game, right? I was like, oh, man, I should play this earlier. ah

00:32:33.10
Jaime G
I agree. It was it was one of those games that I completely missed out when it came out, completely missed out because I was like, I don't know about this. It's a short game. And the magic is if you're one of those players that will go for the multiple runs and final the different branching paths. But or like just these conversations, we all had three different playthroughs. Vance and I actually came up with the same characters at the end.

00:33:03.53
Jaime G
but we had different stories because of kind of where our characters were you know lost along the way.

00:33:09.75
Tony Sisk
Right now. ah Yeah, that's that's the crazy thing is how different. The story kind of turns out, right? So it's like. Obviously, there are some like hard. These things have to happen during the story, right, as the story is being told. But then within this this boundary that they've said anything could happen. Like I think you said

00:33:39.77
Tony Sisk
Julia and her fiance, you know, Alex. Alex is fiance, right? So Vance, did you have a fiance? A character in your game?

00:33:57.35
Sentfrmheaven
uh yes because um yeah because i end up getting a ring back yo

00:34:05.63
Tony Sisk
Okay. So in my game, there was a fiance too. Uh, however, I went back and played the last couple of days, a second time and I got halfway through the, I went through the second play through, uh, and you can actually make it where they're not fiance.

00:34:20.35
Jaime G
Oh, you were for the second playthrough.

00:34:29.63
Tony Sisk
She's not fiance.

00:34:32.72
Tony Sisk
So, and it totally changes. their relationship, right? So it's like how they kind of see each other and talk to each other changes, even the subtleties of it.

00:34:45.34
Tony Sisk
It's like, it's crazy.

00:34:51.04
Tony Sisk
And I love how the game, and I'm not gonna really reveal what the ultimate cause was, but the game is actually playing mind games with us as the player.

00:34:59.41
Jaime G
It is, yeah.

00:35:00.71
Tony Sisk
Seriously. Mine. It it plays.

00:35:02.78
Sentfrmheaven
hey Right.

00:35:02.92
Tony Sisk
It's that's the whole point of the game. It plays mind games with you ah because it's planting seeds that you will either act upon based on your understanding of what's going on or not.

00:35:16.85
Jaime G
I would argue that the portraits that you find along the way um actually do some of what you just said. because the portraits will show you a glimpse of an option that can come up in the near future.

00:35:32.94
Jaime G
So anytime I saw a glimpse of a character dying, I was like, do whatever you can, like be on your, you know, and be on the lookout for something.

00:35:43.67
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right.

00:35:43.65
Jaime G
Right. And actually, the the glimpse actually gave you hints of where this event could happen. Because I

00:35:50.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but you don't know what, what it means. Like you don't know.

00:35:54.55
Jaime G
Well, there was, let's just say this. I saw one where the guy with glasses, I think his name's Brad. He's shown as being found out by one of the bad guys when he's hiding. And then later on I have this choice of like, hey, we don't know where Brad is. Then the choice is, do you call out for Brad or do you not do anything? I was like, I ain't calling out his name. He's gonna die if I do.

00:36:22.19
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:36:22.41
Sentfrmheaven
see now there was another picture involving brad um that did dictate my choice because you remember at the beginning when they have like the rebreather and then i find the rebreather later on well one of the pictures was like something going to happen to him, you know, like in the water.

00:36:44.62
Sentfrmheaven
I'm not going to say specifics. So I chose not to take the rebreather because I'm like, I'm not going in the water with Brad because a picture on the wall.

00:36:50.26
Jaime G
Right, right, right.

00:36:51.32
Sentfrmheaven
So Brad getting jacked up. So we're going to walk. So we're going to go back through the boat. Like we, you know, because there's like, Hey, you can take the shortcut with the rebreather by now.

00:37:03.28
Jaime G
Right, so so to Tony's point, the game does plant seeds so that it's like, are you really sure you want to do this, right? I felt, at times I felt like having those glimpses really altered what my natural choice would have been.

00:37:24.06
Tony Sisk
How did you feel about? And I'm assuming you guys figured out what what was causing everything, what what the.

00:37:34.62
Tony Sisk
The root of everything was.

00:37:35.88
Jaime G
Well, maybe.

00:37:36.81
Tony Sisk
How did you feel? ma well Maybe you didn't. OK, OK.

00:37:41.79
Jaime G
Maybe.

00:37:43.95
Tony Sisk
I mean, I don't know. I mean, how'd you feel at the end of the game? How did how what was your feelings after the end about? How it played out for you?

00:37:53.37
Jaime G
It was like a good, a complete, oh, sorry, sir advanced, advanced, go ahead, go ahead.

00:37:57.27
Sentfrmheaven
um so i felt like a you know yeah i mean I felt like, uh, man, I could have saved everybody. You know, I kind of felt, felt a little bad about that. But then it was like, look, I made the best decisions, you know, I could with what was presented to me. Like you said, there were things that were shown previously to me and then it's like, okay, all right. So I'm not going to do that. I need to do this. But then it's like, you know, like Jaime said, sometimes if you would have did nothing, you'd have been okay. So I definitely liked the game. I definitely liked the, you know, how like pretty much it's like you are,

00:38:31.07
Sentfrmheaven
the master of your you're in you know but like you said it's it's all about to me it was attention to detail was how i was able to save the older brother You know, cause I'm like, man, cause the dude, I took him out because I'm like, well, this isn't the brother. Cause you know, um, I want a spoiler for the body, but I was like, okay, well that's different on him. So I'm gonna take this guy out, you know, because I don't want him to come back later. Cause I mean, I already got, like you said, the entity, the entity already got the bad guys looking for him. I don't want to have him looking for me too. So I'm gonna take him out.

00:39:08.40
Sentfrmheaven
Well, yeah, but I enjoyed it. you know like I was like, man, um I might need to play the other ones. you know But ah well yeah, I definitely enjoyed it.

00:39:17.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah, um, go ahead. i mean There was one, I don't remember exactly what the moment was.

00:39:21.03
Jaime G
I was just going to ask everyone here and moment of truth, complete honesty. Did y'all have any good jumpscares?

00:39:34.60
Tony Sisk
I was in a couple of weeks, but I did have a good, good scare. Uh, but I can't remember what the moment was at this point.

00:39:41.56
Jaime G
I had one that I really, well, first truth be told when I first started playing this game. There was many times where I'm like, oh, here's a cut scene. Let me grab my phone and start texting or something. my One of my biggest jump scares was realizing there was a quick time event coming and a me dropping my phone and being like, oh, press X or something. um But early in the game, and this is really not a spoiler because everyone's gonna have to go through this. At some point when the two soldiers that Tony talked about in the beginning,

00:40:17.25
Jaime G
They're in the building, and you know, something weird is up. Uh, there's this one scene where this little kid is running around and kind of hunting them. Holy smokes.

00:40:28.74
Jaime G
That kid just, there was one moment that I, it he freaked me out because he was just like run through the screen, like in front of the screen, like your character was like way, way in the back.

00:40:38.85
Jaime G
And then like this thing just runs, runs across and I was like, what?

00:40:44.19
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:40:44.23
Jaime G
Yeah, I jumped.

00:40:45.10
Tony Sisk
And there were moments, too, in the game where it's like there would be an appearance of something in the corner in the back background.

00:40:52.59
Jaime G
yeah there was like several like this this man was yeah yeah and then you'd come back and it wasn't there anymore i was like did i really see that yeah it actually i had

00:40:53.98
Tony Sisk
Right. And you would pass it and then you're like, wait, what was that? You turn around and be gone. But it's like.

00:41:02.73
Tony Sisk
But sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And knowing. Knowing the the the. What happens?

00:41:14.70
Tony Sisk
to cause everything. well Going back through the replay that I did, it's it's it's fascinating to watch how that works, knowing how it works.

00:41:26.83
Tony Sisk
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah like you would that you would have a character that would encounter something and then it would starly have, it's a the effects would start happening.

00:41:39.98
Jaime G
It would scare the player on the controller, not the character in the game.

00:41:45.49
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So I did not get a gas mask.

00:41:47.14
Sentfrmheaven
yeah cause Did y'all cuz I'm your well, did y'all get the gas mass Okay, so

00:41:52.63
Jaime G
Yeah. And that's another gripe I have. I did.

00:41:58.12
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, that was one of the jump scares.

00:41:58.38
Jaime G
There's a little bit of a jump scare.

00:41:59.86
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, that was one of the jump scares for me.

00:42:00.16
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:42:02.07
Sentfrmheaven
Cause it's like when you open it up, like a head falls. And then it's like, you have to. So I was like, like, like, I don't know what made me reopen it, but I did. And there was a gas mask and I was like, Oh, I said, okay.

00:42:12.73
Jaime G
And there's a gas mask.

00:42:15.36
Sentfrmheaven
But, uh, the other jump scare I had was earlier when they were in the, uh, the plane, um, swimming and they're like, she's going through the tunnel. And I think it's like a squid or otter, the puss like pops out.

00:42:23.59
Jaime G
The fish. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:26.79
Sentfrmheaven
and

00:42:28.35
Jaime G
it It scared me too. And I was like, come on, that's just a fish, man.

00:42:30.90
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, I was like, he's just like, he's just a fish. Yeah, we are. Oh, yeah. He was a good game.

00:42:40.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:42:40.65
Jaime G
and It was, it was such, it's a better experience than I thought I was going to have.

00:42:40.83
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:42:44.36
Tony Sisk
All right. But we're not done. Surprise.

00:42:46.86
Jaime G
No, we're not.

00:42:47.22
Tony Sisk
Surprised. We're not done with it. Hold on. I have a surprise for you guys. All right. So in honor of the game, I've put together a little trivia for you guys.

00:43:01.15
Tony Sisk
You guys can work together in this. It's 10 questions.

00:43:07.30
Tony Sisk
If you get, uh,

00:43:07.72
Sentfrmheaven
10 questions.

00:43:09.50
Jaime G
If one of us might not come out of this is what you're going to say.

00:43:11.66
Tony Sisk
Right, right. ah So, you can alternate back and forth about who answers the question. If you get the wrong, you're done, right?

00:43:22.40
Sentfrmheaven
All right, I'm just taking the first nine.

00:43:26.96
Tony Sisk
All right, 10 questions, all right.

00:43:27.24
Sentfrmheaven
that's right

00:43:31.61
Tony Sisk
Hold on a second, can we get any sound effects for this? That's all. Oh yeah.

00:43:37.00
Jaime G
Yeah. Okay.

00:43:38.22
Sentfrmheaven
Call it my lifeline.

00:43:38.66
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:43:42.02
Tony Sisk
Get ready.

00:43:48.62
Tony Sisk
All right. Question number one. What was the name of the yacht that they started their ah expedition on? The five characters. The name of the yacht.

00:44:11.78
Jaime G
Man of Milan.

00:44:16.06
Tony Sisk
Do you agree with that Vance?

00:44:18.04
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna go with it. why not i go with it

00:44:23.60
Tony Sisk
I'm gonna give you this one, right?

00:44:26.68
Jaime G
What?

00:44:27.28
Tony Sisk
It's Duke of Milan. Duke of Milan.

00:44:30.24
Jaime G
Oh, dude.

00:44:30.45
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, Duke.

00:44:34.85
Sentfrmheaven
Duke.

00:44:35.64
Tony Sisk
All right, so you're wounded, right? You got half of it. You got a wound, right?

00:44:38.98
Jaime G
Okay, I'm limping, I can still go.

00:44:41.55
Sentfrmheaven
I got you.

00:44:42.00
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:44:42.34
Sentfrmheaven
I'm carrying you. I got you.

00:44:44.58
Tony Sisk
All right. Ready for question two? How's your arm there, Jaime? You jumped in so quick.

00:44:51.96
Jaime G
i I can still throw a couple punches on my other arm, dude.

00:44:53.12
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:44:55.80
Sentfrmheaven
Well, I should have played this last night Okay, we'll go a Alex Rob Julian No, no Brad Conrad Felice and Julia, I said Julie and Julia Please

00:44:56.76
Tony Sisk
Question number two. Name all the main characters.

00:45:11.76
Jaime G
Brad, Brad.

00:45:18.66
Jaime G
And it's not Felice, it's Flee, Fliss, F-L-I-S-S.

00:45:19.75
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:45:21.51
Sentfrmheaven
bliss

00:45:23.03
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:45:23.40
Sentfrmheaven
list

00:45:24.31
Jaime G
Now, now, if you're going to throw out Kerbal and say, Alson, Junior, and the other random dude, come on, that's cheating.

00:45:28.95
Tony Sisk
Well, the audience audience, did they get it right?

00:45:35.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah, they got it right now. There was a save there at the last second. Because Rob's name was kind of hanging in there for a second.

00:45:43.10
Jaime G
I don't

00:45:43.48
Tony Sisk
There was no right.

00:45:45.32
Sentfrmheaven
It was no route, it was no route.

00:45:45.57
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:45:47.04
Jaime G
know, Brad.

00:45:47.15
Sentfrmheaven
I don't know where I got ride from.

00:45:49.96
Jaime G
yeah We got robbed, man.

00:45:50.85
Sentfrmheaven
hey

00:45:53.48
Sentfrmheaven
okay

00:45:53.45
Tony Sisk
All right. Question number three. How much money did Conrad initially offer to pay the fishermen for their damaged boat?

00:46:09.37
Jaime G
and so I think it was 10 bucks, 10 or 20 bucks for sure.

00:46:16.78
Sentfrmheaven
Okay. Hmm. There's a number that jumped out at me, but that's too high.

00:46:24.45
Sentfrmheaven
Let's go with 30. Let's put them together. Let's go 30.

00:46:28.22
Tony Sisk
Now the initial offer, initial offer, not the the final offer, the initial offer.

00:46:34.85
Jaime G
ah The final offer he just threw all the money in the in the water I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm already limping here man.

00:46:39.59
Sentfrmheaven
An issue, I wanna say 300. But I feel like that's too high, but that's the number that jumps out at me.

00:46:49.17
Tony Sisk
i mean

00:46:53.69
Jaime G
I'm gonna Defer to my main man Vance right here

00:47:00.86
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:47:03.63
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

00:47:04.88
Tony Sisk
Vance, you're dead.

00:47:05.60
Jaime G
I knew it how much was it it was ten dollars because because it was something so ridiculously low I was like man that doesn't even cover the bandits

00:47:10.77
Tony Sisk
ah You should have went with Jaime.

00:47:11.13
Sentfrmheaven
It happens.

00:47:14.28
Tony Sisk
$10.

00:47:15.51
Sentfrmheaven
Ten dollars. ah

00:47:25.08
Sentfrmheaven
Great.

00:47:27.03
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:47:30.72
Tony Sisk
Jaime, I guess you're on your own.

00:47:32.57
Sentfrmheaven
Yo, yo, I'm here for cheers.

00:47:35.42
Jaime G
Alright.

00:47:37.83
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:47:42.44
Tony Sisk
The coordinates that they had on their little mini map that they were in search of.

00:47:48.18
Jaime G
Oh dude, I'm dead.

00:47:50.11
Sentfrmheaven
ah get da da down

00:47:50.73
Jaime G
yeah The coordinates, bro.

00:47:50.91
Tony Sisk
Not the coordinates. What did they point to? What was the two words that they were pointing to? What was the name? that was written on there.

00:48:06.24
Jaime G
Bermuda in triangle, I don't know.

00:48:11.61
Tony Sisk
From the grave, Vance, do you want to help him?

00:48:16.08
Sentfrmheaven
I ain't got nothing cold with cake thunder

00:48:17.75
Jaime G
i had This is hardcore, man.

00:48:20.96
Tony Sisk
Okay. You just want to make a guess?

00:48:26.94
Sentfrmheaven
cave of no return.

00:48:27.00
Tony Sisk
Let me give you one word, okay? I'll give you a hint, since this might catch you off guard.

00:48:29.75
Jaime G
Okay.

00:48:32.08
Tony Sisk
The first word is Manchurian.

00:48:37.13
Jaime G
Oh, second word gold.

00:48:42.62
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

00:48:43.79
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:48:46.69
Jaime G
Okay.

00:48:48.05
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:48:51.72
Tony Sisk
Giving you some lifelines here.

00:48:54.55
Jaime G
Still limping here still limping.

00:48:58.30
Tony Sisk
All right. All right. What was... Ooh, you might... Okay.

00:49:12.86
Tony Sisk
What was Julia's nickname for Conrad?

00:49:22.13
Jaime G
I want to say Connie.

00:49:27.38
Sentfrmheaven
Okay.

00:49:28.20
Jaime G
oh

00:49:28.33
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:49:31.65
Sentfrmheaven
Way to step up.

00:49:31.99
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:49:33.05
Jaime G
yeah Almost my mic right now, honestly.

00:49:35.09
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:49:38.72
Sentfrmheaven
Rob.

00:49:39.08
Tony Sisk
All right. What was the name of the fisherman? The Asian fisherman.

00:49:52.57
Jaime G
C.

00:49:52.69
Sentfrmheaven
rob

00:49:56.63
Jaime G
No, no, no. That's why I was actually, that's why I said earlier, Olsen Jr. And I said the other, the other guy, I cannot remember his name for the life of me. I even said it earlier. There are other dude.

00:50:07.75
Jaime G
I don't know.

00:50:09.21
Tony Sisk
It starts with a D. I'll give you that.

00:50:11.50
Jaime G
I don't know, man. Honestly, ah you you knew I was not going to get that one.

00:50:15.24
Tony Sisk
Vance?

00:50:18.90
Sentfrmheaven
Donny yeah yeah day yeah day and I was about that over

00:50:19.00
Jaime G
David, maybe David.

00:50:19.96
Tony Sisk
What'd you say? Danny? Did you say Danny Vance? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:26.48
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:50:26.75
Tony Sisk
From the dead.

00:50:33.36
Tony Sisk
All right. According to Danny, What happens to a person when they die on a ship?

00:50:41.89
Jaime G
Their, their soul is tethered to the ship.

00:50:47.77
Tony Sisk
And they become what?

00:50:48.83
Jaime G
They become part of the ship. One with the ship.

00:50:52.98
Tony Sisk
A ghost?

00:50:53.80
Sentfrmheaven
I'm going home.

00:50:55.08
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:50:56.76
Sentfrmheaven
Going home.

00:50:57.48
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:50:58.49
Jaime G
that's That's why he was like so freaked out when his untimely demise was reached.

00:50:58.82
Sentfrmheaven
Good answer.

00:51:02.60
Sentfrmheaven
I have Hey, we off the ship behind me.

00:51:03.07
Tony Sisk
and Okay, final question. Final question. Get this or get off the ship?

00:51:12.86
Sentfrmheaven
Let's do.

00:51:13.02
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:51:13.44
Jaime G
Let's see, you man. Let's see.

00:51:16.28
Tony Sisk
What is the name of the ship?

00:51:22.71
Sentfrmheaven
the The big ship.

00:51:25.24
Tony Sisk
The big ship. What is the name of the big ship?

00:51:29.34
Jaime G
It had like orangutan. The orang-medan. I don't know, Vanska.

00:51:41.59
Sentfrmheaven
USS Aragon.

00:51:48.43
Jaime G
The USS get me off the ship as soon as you can.

00:51:50.64
Sentfrmheaven
he right

00:51:52.96
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:51:53.92
Jaime G
All right.

00:51:54.90
Tony Sisk
I guess you're not going to make it off the ship. Oh, maybe I'll tell you what, you got part of the name right.

00:51:57.21
Jaime G
Oh.

00:52:00.94
Tony Sisk
So you got wounded earlier in the arm.

00:52:03.88
Jaime G
Yeah. ah Yeah, ah

00:52:04.55
Tony Sisk
Yeah, you lose you lose the arm. OK, the name of the ship. Is the N.G. Madan.

00:52:15.11
Sentfrmheaven
Right. But they had to be at a store because I'm like, man, I thought

00:52:16.63
Tony Sisk
What's the name of the game?

00:52:20.27
Jaime G
yeah man.

00:52:22.65
Tony Sisk
hi'm mcoff with his arm

00:52:22.82
Sentfrmheaven
Madam again.

00:52:24.27
Tony Sisk
what with the one arm

00:52:26.43
Jaime G
I still live, man. I still live.

00:52:28.39
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:52:29.01
Sentfrmheaven
ah He came up too fast.

00:52:29.15
Tony Sisk
He had a lot of help from the afterlife, but all right.

00:52:30.89
Sentfrmheaven
okay a He up too fast.

00:52:32.66
Jaime G
ah You gave that's a reference man. He came up too fast And had a beer afterward Okay And let us know what your playthrough was like

00:52:41.41
Sentfrmheaven
a beer.

00:52:43.70
Tony Sisk
So that wraps up our discussion on Man of Medan. Guys, check it out. It's a fun game. Like I said, it's only three and a half, four hours long. knock it out in one sitting. um So, and it's on PS Plus, if you're a PlayStation, it's on PS Plus. Be sure you don't download the trial version, the full game version.

00:53:06.11
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

00:53:08.34
Tony Sisk
All right.

00:53:08.73
Jaime G
But that's not the only game we're going to talk about today that has jump scares in it.

00:53:11.60
Tony Sisk
That's not not the only one.

00:53:13.06
Jaime G
No, we're actually just going to.

00:53:14.16
Tony Sisk
Our second game, and quite the accomplishments that

00:53:15.79
Jaime G
Yeah, there is a second game.

00:53:20.53
Jaime G
That Vance is playing.

00:53:21.07
Tony Sisk
you know, Vance, he got yeah himself to to to to get on board this ship.

00:53:28.37
Sentfrmheaven
i think i got the chapter seven eight

00:53:29.87
Jaime G
Speaking of ships.

00:53:30.84
Sentfrmheaven
so

00:53:32.87
Tony Sisk
Dead Space, the remake. So this game has been out for a couple of years. Actually had not, well, the original game has been out for a decade plus, but the remake came out like in 2022 from a pick in.

00:53:39.11
Jaime G
couple

00:53:42.14
Jaime G
Okay.

00:53:49.45
Jaime G
I want to say 2023, man.

00:53:51.37
Tony Sisk
2021? Was it last year?

00:53:56.35
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:53:58.97
Tony Sisk
I feel like it's been out there a lot longer than that. But anyway, they did a remake. Game looks fantastic. It's Dead Space, the remake.

00:54:10.21
Tony Sisk
And Jaime, I know you had played this a while back.

00:54:13.86
Jaime G
I sure did.

00:54:14.92
Tony Sisk
and And then I, as soon as I was done with Madame and Dan,

00:54:14.99
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

00:54:20.48
Tony Sisk
Vance said, I'm playing Dead Space, which was a challenge to me. If Vance is going to play Dead Space, I'm going to play Dead Space. So I jumped on there too.

00:54:30.20
Jaime G
and then And then guess what? I say I'm gonna play Dead Space too.

00:54:34.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So, but Vance is the newbie to the game. Let's hear what Vance has to say about his experience about Dead Space.

00:54:45.87
Sentfrmheaven
So, uh, that's basically, um, you know, no knowledge of it whatsoever. I just hop right into it. And, uh, you know, there were things that I, uh, liked about it as far as like, um,

00:55:00.30
Sentfrmheaven
the story that they're going in. I definitely like the story. oh Man, like, you know, some things is like, like you can see a habit. I'm just like, ah, here we go.

00:55:13.12
Sentfrmheaven
Like, so backstory, I'm not good with ah games that you have to build, like your armor or weaponry along in the way. So like, uh, just, yes.

00:55:22.72
Tony Sisk
Our beach RPG star games, role playing or action games.

00:55:25.57
Sentfrmheaven
So like, uh, yes. Oh,

00:55:27.61
Tony Sisk
I actually lot action games do that now too. So.

00:55:30.33
Sentfrmheaven
there's what's that with uh the one that just had that uh they had a dlc release recently uh diablo so for the longest time you know with the diablo you know i wasn't putting my i guess points on different things yeah because i you know i didn't want to mess it up so that's how i was with the nose i was holding onto to my nose you know i'm like okay like do i want to waste all my nose on my first weapon because it's my baby i'm gonna keep it or do i want to you know all the new weapons i'm picking up do i want to upgrade that

00:55:39.88
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Skill points.

00:56:00.61
Sentfrmheaven
So, you know, like, um that was a challenge, but then I kind of figured it out, you know, I started, you know, experimenting with some weapons, like, okay, well, this works, that works, all right, so, but ah but yeah, I definitely, I definitely liked the story ah so far, so far, you know, like I said, I got the chapter, like, seven, eight, so, having fun, having fun, I do, I do, I do plan on completing it, there you go.

00:56:21.19
Jaime G
Ooh.

00:56:28.59
Tony Sisk
It's a 12. It's 12 chapters in the game, so you're pretty close. um Yeah, you're getting there. How many was your opinion on the game?

00:56:37.29
Jaime G
All right, so I've already talked about this in the past that I felt it was ah an amazing game.

00:56:49.49
Jaime G
But I started, since I knew that you both were playing it, I started the new game, the new new game plus.

00:56:54.27
Tony Sisk
Your game plus.

00:56:55.99
Jaime G
Yeah. And there's actually an alternate ending that you can unlock that only in the new game plus. And there's like some additional activities that you have to do to be able to do this.

00:57:08.81
Jaime G
And I thought that was pretty cool because that that actually keeps it fresh. You're not just doing the same exact thing. and I thought that this game was a blast, honestly. But I will say this, even having played it and going back to like the early chapters, I still got freaked out by a couple things that happened here and And, you know, Dead Space builds this really, really good atmosphere of just being in a really cramped up space where, you know, it's like,

00:57:41.83
Jaime G
the original Alien movie, like they're like in ducks, like very narrow spaces where if you get pinned down, you're a goner, man. So the reason why we we all started playing this is because it was on PlayStation Plus this past month. So we said, hey, we we're playing on Madame Madame, let's play something else with some jump scares. I highly recommend this game. I'm actually you very interested to hear your experiences now, because I played this game when it first released last year. oh So I kind of know what's coming.

00:58:12.31
Jaime G
And I would know that Vance, you're halfway there. You're just getting to the good stuff, man. Honestly, when whenever you you get to like chapters 10, 11, and beyond, there there it changes. There's some new new enemy types that are going to be coming at you. It mixes up the formula.

00:58:31.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:58:34.17
Tony Sisk
So anyway.

00:58:34.55
Jaime G
Tony, what chapter are you in?

00:58:34.69
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Oh.

00:58:37.04
Tony Sisk
Watch after I'm done with the game.

00:58:37.32
Sentfrmheaven
I'm not going to do it.

00:58:39.25
Jaime G
Oh, you did complete it. Okay, okay.

00:58:41.71
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah, I finished it. um I loved it, right? I love the original game, ah but the remake is a beautiful game.

00:58:54.53
Tony Sisk
The

00:58:56.91
Tony Sisk
I mean, it's fantastic how it looks. It plays pretty smooth. I mean, so, you know, your guy is not a sprinter or anything. He's like, you know, trudging through these hallways of this ship, this abandoned, not abandoned ship, but this ship, the Ishimura, Ishimura planet cracker ship.

00:59:13.49
Jaime G
Shimura.

00:59:18.71
Tony Sisk
And you know everybody is dead, basically. There's some survivors here and there that he runs into. um But yeah, I mean, I love, oh, I love, like, I feel like they there is more emphasis in the remake with zero gravity areas.

00:59:37.67
Tony Sisk
Maybe I'm just imagining it.

00:59:38.19
Jaime G
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right, because

00:59:39.37
Tony Sisk
But there seems like there's more of that.

00:59:42.23
Jaime G
and and And the way how they introduced the zero gravity thing in the very first game sucked. They really fixed it in Dead Space 2 and they brought that element from Dead Space 2 into the remake. They said, let's do it right from the first, from the first remake.

00:59:56.20
Tony Sisk
Yeah, because, ah you know, you just you jump off whatever you're standing on and you're just free floating and you can, you know, maneuver with your little jump packs or whatever this built into your suit. And then you can literally flip upside down and everything is disoriented and whatever. But, you know, there has a way it does have a way of like reordering yourself ah easily. But I love those elements. I love the sound.

01:00:24.46
Tony Sisk
Like when you go into the vacuum of space, you know, the sound is muted, right? It's like, yeah. It just, oh, this would probably be how it sounds if there was sound, right? So just the attention to detail to, you know, those, that sort of stuff, the, how the ship itself felt, all the, the audio files and text files that you can find.

01:00:55.81
Tony Sisk
They really pieces is the story about what happened on board the ship, you know, you're starting to kind of put that mystery together.

01:01:01.56
Jaime G
Well, it but not only that, it makes the ship feel like it was brimming with like people working there. There's like people who are like, hey, this this is the guy that was fixing the engine. Here's this random guy. Here's this doctor's note. It makes it feel like it was this really well staffed vessel and they're all gone.

01:01:29.59
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And if the game itself is not maybe it's probably based on difficulty level, but it was not too stingy with like ammo drops and stuff like that.

01:01:40.25
Tony Sisk
You know, you can always either buy what you need or find or or switch weapons, you know.

01:01:44.90
Sentfrmheaven
I ran out.

01:01:47.76
Jaime G
And I ran away.

01:01:48.90
Tony Sisk
ah

01:01:51.25
Tony Sisk
Yeah. and ah And the weapons all feel great. Right. So it's like no matter what weapon you use, though, I did feel like the flamethrower was a little underpowered.

01:01:54.57
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

01:01:59.20
Tony Sisk
um But any of the other one, I mean, a lot of the other weapons were great. Like the beam weapon that just tore through things. Go ahead.

01:02:07.76
Jaime G
Tony, the reason why the flamethrower is there is you got you got to know your enemy types.

01:02:14.32
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

01:02:14.48
Jaime G
You know, you

01:02:14.56
Tony Sisk
Use it on the guys on a wall and the the little dudes that are on ground.

01:02:17.63
Jaime G
The guy, the guy, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not the guys that are on the ground. The, the pregnant kind of looking guys that actually, when you do, when you kill them, they pop and they release these little guys.

01:02:30.64
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

01:02:31.93
Jaime G
That's who you use it on. Because if you do that, he doesn't pop.

01:02:35.98
Tony Sisk
Yeah, well, I would shoot him in a distance and then the little huge you come at me and I would just burn them.

01:02:38.44
Sentfrmheaven
i mean you're right yeah a a

01:02:42.22
Tony Sisk
ah

01:02:43.22
Sentfrmheaven
yeah so So to speak to the sound you know like profiles and tiles and stuff, like um it's funny because you know like at the beginning, where you see like the little fans in the wall, like they bust out and either like something is running by it or something is ah you know like going in or whatever like that, but it's like you can track the sound pretty good. like you know So I'm looking at the wall like,

01:03:05.17
Sentfrmheaven
You know, I know you about to come out somewhere, you know, but, but, uh, you know, and I definitely like, you know, you got, you know, like how they put the sound where it's supposed to be. So if I'm in the room right now, if it's, you know, kind of behind, yeah, you'd be here, you know, pretty good.

01:03:14.63
Jaime G
Yeah, you can hear them in the air vents and, and, and depending on which headset you're using, like I use like the PlayStation branded one.

01:03:23.92
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

01:03:24.08
Jaime G
You can literally hear something go like, like literally like from the back of your head to like somewhere in front of you.

01:03:29.26
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

01:03:30.48
Jaime G
And you're like, that's, that's in the vent.

01:03:30.73
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

01:03:31.96
Jaime G
It makes you like really be immersed in that setting.

01:03:32.77
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

01:03:36.44
Sentfrmheaven
right right and uh yeah because um what was that when you had to fight and you had to freeze him well you had to put him in the cryo cryo thing or whatever like that like that was yeah that that took me a little while to figure out because i'm hitting with everything i'm hitting with that's why i ran out of ammo i'm hitting with the flame throw i'm hitting with the beam i'm hitting with the plasma we don't hit it with everything i said oh because i was running by and like oh okay all right i got it

01:03:46.56
Tony Sisk
Oh, the hunter.

01:03:47.60
Jaime G
The Hunter.

01:04:05.28
Sentfrmheaven
Hey man, come get transported, you know. But a ah yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that we had a fun time, a fun time, but man, what a game there, boy.

01:04:17.35
Sentfrmheaven
I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to finish it, because they got me with the whole, you know, with one, I think it's like playing audio, you got to go find a girl that you're actually looking for. And I'm like,

01:04:27.88
Jaime G
Well, that's the whole plot of the game. You got to go find Nicole.

01:04:31.66
Sentfrmheaven
right but it's like when when you when you go well as you're going it like kind of like locks you in the the tram little lobby and it and then that's when like you know the doctor's kind of like first talking to you whatever like that i was like i know she's not in there like i know this is some some plot to get me in here but you know what i'm ready i'm ready you know Oh, and I finally, uh, I finally figured out like, cause you know, cause I was asking Tony, that's when I got all these credits. Like, I don't know, do with it. But I finally bought me a suit that held all my stuff. I said, okay, I'm ready now. I'm ready.

01:05:06.40
Jaime G
Yeah, enhance your suits. yeah um You know, upgrade nodes, get your weapons, beat make them more powerful. Question, because this is always, always one of the toughest trophies to get in this game.

01:05:20.79
Jaime G
Did you guys find Peng?

01:05:24.36
Tony Sisk
I did.

01:05:25.69
Jaime G
You did OK.

01:05:26.72
Tony Sisk
I found him.

01:05:28.37
Sentfrmheaven
You said find who?

01:05:28.42
Tony Sisk
I was like, what is this?

01:05:28.51
Jaime G
OK.

01:05:29.85
Tony Sisk
I should took actually took a screenshot of it because it seems so out of place.

01:05:34.83
Jaime G
Right. It's, they always hide this, this trophy.

01:05:36.68
Tony Sisk
Man, you're not there yet. Oh, it's hit is it its hit randomly?

01:05:41.50
Jaime G
That's, that's really, no, no, no, no. That's, I mean, no, it's not random, but there's always this trophy in every single debt space where you have to find Peng and throughout the whole game, you actually, if you pay attention, there's going to be posters and stuff on the walls that mentioned Peng, Peng, Peng.

01:06:01.03
Jaime G
Once you find him, I mean. Fans the spoiler is you get to sell it for like a ton of cash But but the thing is is that it's really really difficult to find in every single debt space.

01:06:09.20
Tony Sisk
credits

01:06:15.69
Jaime G
There's always a ping It's and it's a ping in the butt to find

01:06:19.64
Tony Sisk
I found it sounds looking at everything

01:06:24.78
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I was looking at every every time I saw someplace you could you could scrounge around for more ammo or credits. I was looking

01:06:31.57
Sentfrmheaven
Hmm. Hmm.

01:06:33.85
Jaime G
Yeah, good. All right. So, okay. So, we we're we're talking about Dead Space, the Dead Space remake, which is very action-focused, a lot of jump-scares. Let's shift the conversation to our last topic of the day, where it's a very newer release, newer than Dead Space 2, that actually advanced-confirmed It did release in 2023, January of 2023 actually.

01:06:59.64
Jaime G
um And now let's shift the focus to the game that everyone is raving about. And this is Silent Hill 2, the remake.

01:07:09.89
Sentfrmheaven
and

01:07:10.13
Jaime G
Honestly, the only person that has played the remake out of this this trio has been Tony. I myself, if you're actually watching the stream, played the original Silent Hill 2 that I have here in my hand,

01:07:24.29
Jaime G
It's worth 220 bucks off Amazon today.

01:07:27.06
Tony Sisk
Oh, wow.

01:07:27.85
Jaime G
And, Tony, this game right here has something that your game will never, ever have. And you know what that is, my my good friend? You know what that is?

01:07:41.04
Jaime G
See this instruction manual. You don't have that.

01:07:44.04
Tony Sisk
instruction manual yeah that's true I don't have an instruction manual I mean I mean do you really need an instruction manual

01:07:46.01
Jaime G
An instruction manual. If you open that, take that inferior game.

01:07:51.41
Sentfrmheaven
hey so hey so what's funny is uh right yeah so so what's really funny about that is uh so in honor of our you know um what you want to call it our theme tonight i looked up uh you know best horror game ever uh

01:07:56.30
Jaime G
You do.

01:08:15.62
Sentfrmheaven
Top one and through one one two three is either Silent Hill or a game called PT which was supposed to be a branch off Silent Hill but I don't know.

01:08:26.31
Tony Sisk
That game is not even available anymore.

01:08:26.53
Jaime G
it It's, it doesn't exist anymore.

01:08:26.78
Sentfrmheaven
ah Right, I was going to say, yeah yeah, it doesn't exist anymore.

01:08:30.65
Jaime G
Playable, I think it was called playable trailer or playable teaser.

01:08:36.12
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be a branch.

01:08:36.48
Jaime G
It was directed by Guillermo del Toro and it started Norman Reedus.

01:08:43.91
Tony Sisk
And it was a hallway.

01:08:43.92
Jaime G
And it was like a free game. Yeah.

01:08:47.34
Tony Sisk
It was a hallway because I have that game.

01:08:47.91
Sentfrmheaven
and yeah I believe it was silent heal the first one but to yeah I look at that you look at it yeah inferior

01:08:49.00
Jaime G
And by the way, Vance, which one, which one was the sk- the most scariest game? Was it Silent Hill 2 or Silent Hill 1?

01:09:00.42
Jaime G
this one right here that i'm holding in my hand uh-huh and it also has an instruction manual not like tony's inferior scopy anyway tony walk us through yeah for somebody that's no no no no somebody who's been gaming for 20 plus years is like oh yeah this is normal

01:09:15.64
Tony Sisk
You know why it doesn't have an instruction manual? Because it's intuitive.

01:09:22.13
Tony Sisk
Anybody can play this.

01:09:22.23
Sentfrmheaven
o

01:09:31.37
Sentfrmheaven
Hey now we have ah tiktok in a YouTube for the instruction manual, you know,

01:09:37.60
Jaime G
Yeah. So so Tony, walk tell us your about your journey into the nice place in town of Silent Hill.

01:09:44.77
Tony Sisk
So I'm right.

01:09:45.81
Sentfrmheaven
I

01:09:47.27
Tony Sisk
So I've never played like a mainline Silent Hill game, right? I've played like offshoot stuff. Right. So like that pregame that we got was a game we just played a few months ago.

01:09:54.10
Jaime G
Boo.

01:09:58.23
Tony Sisk
That was.

01:09:58.90
Jaime G
Silent Hill, the the narrative, the hallway, yeah the cherry blossom.

01:10:02.45
Tony Sisk
Something like that. It was about the suicide. Girl. Yeah.

01:10:06.62
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:10:08.35
Tony Sisk
I play games like that, right? That somehow associated the Silent Hill. Don't know how, but they say they are. Anyway, so Silent Hill 2 is really my first introduction to the franchise, the main franchise.

01:10:23.04
Tony Sisk
And I was, didn't know what to expect. You know, I'm like, okay, don't know what the, you know, the gameplay was going to be like. Uh, figured it was a narrative game for sure. Um, and it, that it is heavily, uh, got a heavy narrative and, uh, some, you know, like almost, uh, what do you call it? Uh, action wise, like you can shoot a gun.

01:10:56.96
Tony Sisk
So you have a pistol that you can get in a shotgun. And it's, but it's not like, it's not super easy to use.

01:11:00.80
Jaime G
But the thing that that I'll agree with you, it's it's not an action game. That's the thing.

01:11:08.02
Tony Sisk
Right.

01:11:08.58
Jaime G
It's like you you can't compare this apples to apples to like a Resident Evil 4 remake or to a Dead Space remake because it's not the same type of game.

01:11:15.26
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm. Right. So I played Resident Evil for remake in your correct is definitely that that is an action game for sure. This place totally different.

01:11:26.70
Tony Sisk
This is more of a puzzle solver, really, ah which I was actually pleasantly surprised by how that worked. This really brought me back to like old old school type of games where, you know, you had to.

01:11:41.58
Jaime G
where they had manuals in them.

01:11:43.08
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so you had to go and Like they would give you a puzzle in order to advance a story because he's usually each section of the story is blocked off by a locked door. We'll say that requires a key, but it's it's more than just going and finding the key, right? You have to.

01:12:01.35
Tony Sisk
piece it together of how to go find the key. So it's a puzzle. And usually each main area of the town, whatever, is is blocked off that way. And it's super satisfying going and just kind of like trying to piece together i did not use youtube did not use any guides or anything like that just use my own thought processes to work my way through they're not super difficult but challenging still and you just it's super satisfying to solve those puzzles and make it to the next area and see the narrative piece as it plays out and that's like what drives you right because you want to see it gives you these little

01:12:47.39
Tony Sisk
ah cut screens, not little, typically, actually, they're fairly long, um about what's going on, really. It's not really about what's going on in the town.

01:12:59.89
Tony Sisk
It's about <unk> you're introduced to characters. You meet characters as you're the main character, James sun Sutherland or Sunderland.

01:13:11.10
Jaime G
so Sunderland.

01:13:11.47
Tony Sisk
You're playing him. Yeah, you're playing him and he's in search of his wife. that presumably died three years ago, but he gets a letter from her and it's driven him to Solon Hill and he's in search of her. And Solon Hill is an abandoned town that something horrible happened there. And it's populated by these strange creatures that look like mannequins with no arms, some with no arms and legs, some with all arms and legs and like faceless nurses and that, you know, progressively get more difficult to kill.

01:13:44.44
Tony Sisk
And then you have boss battles and stuff like that.

01:13:45.22
Jaime G
And Pyramid Head, by the way, Pyramid Head.

01:13:47.20
Tony Sisk
And the dude that's just constantly chasing you. Right. So.

01:13:50.98
Jaime G
He is epic.

01:13:52.42
Tony Sisk
Right. So. You you you're trying to obviously find the wife and see where this goes and you meet characters along the way and they are weird.

01:14:04.76
Tony Sisk
And but you keep running into them and they lead to their own story, backstories and stuff like that. And it is. an incredible game. just I would just get to the point. It's fabulous. Loved every second I play this. This game scared crap out of me, dude. Like Dead Space, it's an action game, right? You got stuff jumping out at you from Vince and stuff like that. Those are jump scares. But if you're there and you're you're loaded for bear, it's not that scary because you know you can take him down, right?

01:14:41.13
Tony Sisk
ah Man, I'm a Dan. That's a psychological horror with spooky ghosts and and creatures and all kinds of stuff like that. That's pretty creepy, right? But so it's scary on its own, right? But Silent Hill, too, is creepy and scary. And it's at certain points, it's like all you can do is run ah like literally all you can do. And it's not necessarily scarce on bullets and stuff like that if you have a gun but you start the game like with just a stick with some nails in it yeah a plank um and your weapons you know though you can kill stuff it's like they're not super efficient at it so

01:15:23.98
Jaime G
but like a plank, don't you?

01:15:36.21
Tony Sisk
What ends up happening is even though I could find tons of ammo and stuff as I'm playing through, I would go through a ton of it ah just to take one of these nurses down, right? It's like, because they've had armor, basically, and they're super hard to kill. You aim for the head, and they got this jerky motion to them, and it's like, it might take me 10 bullets to take one down if I didn't catch it by surprise.

01:16:02.00
Tony Sisk
um But yeah, like so the combat is. You know, makes it where you don't want to get into combat like.

01:16:09.01
Jaime G
it's it's It's not a combat ah focused game.

01:16:12.48
Tony Sisk
Right, you don't want to get into combat, you want to.

01:16:17.10
Tony Sisk
Avoid it as much as possible because you don't want to play through the game low on health because health is scarce, right? Being able to get your health to a good level. There's no, you know, rest 20 minutes and your health solely refills. No. ah If you're wounded, you're not getting rid ah rid of that bleeding.

01:16:41.01
Tony Sisk
ah wound effect and there is a bleeding wound effect that affects how you see the game like the screen starts to turn red and when you're really really seriously wounded like the screen is like narrow where only this narrow portion is you can actually see clearly it's like just imagine you have blood in your eyes I guess that's what it's pop up trying to imitate But yeah, it's like, and you got your, your heart is pumping super fast that you can hear, you know, and it's, it's like kind of like, Oh man, I don't want to hear this the whole time I play. So I want to heal up.

01:17:17.96
Tony Sisk
But it's super, ah super, super scary. The sound that you would be in an apartment, like working your way through an apartment. So it's a multi store building. And you could hear like doors opening above you, footsteps above you. There's screams happening off in the distance, you know, voices just.

01:17:39.74
Tony Sisk
everything like doing a great a job with the sound and in the environment and the fog that encompasses the town it's so thick and it's like it's its own entity so just the environmental design is great. I will say that the game probably there's a certain point at the end of the game where it's like, ah, I wish this was maybe like an hour shorter or something that's kind of extended, say, a little bit too long in that point. But it was a fantastic game.

01:18:22.43
Jaime G
Actually, if there's one mechanic in this game, Tony, I haven't played the remake. Okay. Just, just, just putting that out there. But I remember in Silent Hill one, two, and three, there was the radio.

01:18:37.21
Jaime G
I don't know if you still have it in this one, but anytime that you got near something that was going to attack you there, there's this radio that you had on, on your character and it starts like, you know, like buzzing, like you can hear the static.

01:18:44.02
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

01:18:49.31
Tony Sisk
Right. So right. So yeah, you can turn that off. But um that is a thing you find a radio and right.

01:18:57.45
Jaime G
Don't turn it off. It it makes it makes it better.

01:19:00.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah. um I didn't turn it off, but it gives you a heads up that there's something around that's dangerous to you.

01:19:04.68
Jaime G
So.

01:19:09.44
Jaime G
Yeah, and the closer it is, the more static that you can hear, man.

01:19:09.72
Tony Sisk
But

01:19:12.65
Tony Sisk
Right, and I will say, again, this is another example of why the PS5 is a superior console because your kind your controller acts as that radio because it has the built-in speaker. And that staticky sound is coming from your controller, so use your great effect on the on the PlayStation.

01:19:38.92
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that it's a great effect. ah

01:19:44.03
Tony Sisk
Man, the narrative to this ah story is very interesting. I wanna get into the details of it, but it's like, I don't wanna spoil it.

01:19:53.86
Jaime G
that's a whole That's a whole different episode, just focused, right?

01:19:55.13
Tony Sisk
Oh, different in this episode. We'll talk about that in a different episode, spoiler discussion episode. But great characters, great acting, great great voice acting.

01:20:09.27
Tony Sisk
Well, is there something else I was about to bring up about this particular game? I can't remember now. It just left me, but if it comes back up.

01:20:16.85
Jaime G
OK. Tony, did you ever figure out the whole symbology between why the bad guys look the way they do?

01:20:25.68
Tony Sisk
Not in this game, I did not.

01:20:26.23
Jaime G
Like. OK, so I will we'll talk about it later, but there's a reason why the bad guys are nurses, and it's not because he's in the hospital, but like the other creatures that you encounter, the the faceless things, the bed monster, the there's a reason that they look that way.

01:20:47.58
Jaime G
And when When I read about this, I was like, oh, it makes perfect sense why they look this way. That's the choice of why the design of the characters were it that way. um i can't I don't know if this happens in your in in the remake, which it does in the very amazing PS2 version. um What was the name of the character that's in there? Not Lara, not Eddie, the other one that's like,

01:21:18.95
Sentfrmheaven
Grob.

01:21:24.70
Jaime G
um

01:21:25.18
Tony Sisk
So you had Angela.

01:21:27.87
Jaime G
that's her Angela actually look Angela's in the manual right here anyway Angela there's a scene in the original game where James James is saying like everything here is on fire and and Angela says like

01:21:29.20
Tony Sisk
Yeah. have Okay. Angela. Yeah. Mm hmm.

01:21:47.70
Jaime G
Yeah, that's how I always see things or like something that makes it not that James's view of the world is different than hers.

01:21:54.78
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

01:21:57.96
Jaime G
And again, that's very significant because everyone experiences Silent Hill in a different way.

01:21:59.45
Tony Sisk
That.

01:22:04.05
Tony Sisk
So, yeah, she does make that comment.

01:22:06.63
Jaime G
so So based on on basically your sins, the reason why you're in Silent Hill is the reason why you see the characters the way you do.

01:22:07.00
Tony Sisk
ah

01:22:17.28
Jaime G
we'll get We'll get into more of that next time.

01:22:19.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah. There's a lot of mystery going on. You find a lot of stuff, clues and notes and some of it's just background information.

01:22:26.25
Jaime G
Yep.

01:22:28.26
Tony Sisk
I don't know if there's more you can find that lead to other things or whatever, but there's a lot of like the hospital. There's a lot of information about these three patients that were in the hospital.

01:22:40.56
Tony Sisk
um mustssuming I don't know if they're the characters you keep running into or they're totally separate or whatever. I don't know, but It's like you want to find out what happened to these people, oh particular people, and I don't know if I actually did or not, but.

01:22:55.52
Tony Sisk
We'd like to find out more, so I don't know.

01:22:58.71
Jaime G
Yeah, well, there you go.

01:23:00.22
Tony Sisk
But, yeah.

01:23:00.54
Jaime G
there's That's another another option, great option to play around this season.

01:23:07.22
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so. The.

01:23:12.85
Tony Sisk
I think ah the length of time to play this game was listed as like 10 hours. I'm like, I'm not quite sure where they're getting that number from. That's like 10 hours from somebody who's played the original Silent Hill 2 and then they're coming into this.

01:23:25.81
Tony Sisk
But I don't think that number is correct. This game is probably more like a 20 hour game because it I took it was over 20 hours for me to finish it. So.

01:23:35.65
Jaime G
so that That sounds right because you're you're trying to discover everything for the first time.

01:23:40.64
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

01:23:41.95
Jaime G
That sounds like my old playthrough.

01:23:44.14
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so expect to be in over 20 hours for and I thought I was doing pretty good too. I wasn't like being stuck in line.

01:23:50.77
Jaime G
And that's if you if you're if you're just doing the first run, but this game, even in the original version, had multiple endings. So there's things that you can do in the game that will actually get you different endings.

01:24:02.53
Jaime G
So it is one of the

01:24:03.31
Tony Sisk
Yeah, apparently there are multiple innings in this game too, so.

01:24:08.65
Tony Sisk
But yeah, I'm highly so suggest Silent Hill 2. It's probably my game of the year so far. I haven't played a lot of games this year, but this would be my choice.

01:24:20.62
Tony Sisk
I know you would have to stack it up against but fanta that is it Final of Fantasy.

01:24:26.25
Jaime G
Final Fantasy seven rebirth.

01:24:26.38
Tony Sisk
Maybe if you had a choice, but you have to play it. so But I have the physical edition right here. Without the manual,

01:24:38.26
Jaime G
yeah Me too.

01:24:40.60
Tony Sisk
but you can play it.

01:24:45.31
Tony Sisk
All right.

01:24:45.83
Jaime G
hey

01:24:47.31
Tony Sisk
So, I highly recommend that any other games that we drove into Call of Duty, anybody played any Call of Duty?

01:24:57.52
Jaime G
Nope, I'm skipping it this year.

01:24:59.16
Tony Sisk
What about you Vance?

01:25:01.08
Sentfrmheaven
I have, that's what i didn't that's why I didn't finish a Dead Space.

01:25:01.32
Jaime G
It

01:25:05.47
Sentfrmheaven
I've been on, the new season of 2K started and then and of course Call of Duty dropped.

01:25:10.42
Jaime G
Like today, right?

01:25:12.07
Tony Sisk
yesterday.

01:25:12.28
Sentfrmheaven
Yesterday, yesterday.

01:25:13.58
Jaime G
Yesterday.

01:25:14.00
Sentfrmheaven
Yup, yup. So i've been I've been on there pretty heavy.

01:25:17.45
Tony Sisk
So we'll probably have an episode that gets more into it, but your quick, quick insights into the game.

01:25:18.04
Sentfrmheaven
Uh huh.

01:25:21.52
Sentfrmheaven
Mm hmm.

01:25:24.59
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:25:26.55
Tony Sisk
Vance, what do you think?

01:25:28.12
Sentfrmheaven
um

01:25:28.19
Tony Sisk
Then I'll give you mine.

01:25:30.65
Sentfrmheaven
so far ah i like it it has their old the old black ops failed to it you know which you know what a traar brings so i mean like So far, I like it.

01:25:38.28
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

01:25:40.96
Sentfrmheaven
like I played maybe one well i'm not gonna say one round, because I got to round 17 on the zombies. um that's like it's cool i like the old zombies better but this one isn't bad

01:25:55.01
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:25:55.43
Sentfrmheaven
especially yeah but doesn't make sense to me real quick is all right so the old zombies was small map four man teams the last zombies was a big map three man teams now they brought back four man teams on a smaller map like that just I didn't get that, like why they dropped it down to the three man teams, but uh, but yeah, but zombies, uh, you know, of course there's already stuff out Easter eggs and stuff like that.

01:26:21.52
Sentfrmheaven
I haven't got into it. So I've been waiting on, you know, the squad to get on the kind of experience at first with everybody.

01:26:26.26
Tony Sisk
Did you play Terminus or did you play Liberty Falls?

01:26:26.94
Sentfrmheaven
So Liberty falls. I play Liberty falls.

01:26:30.75
Tony Sisk
So you're playing Liberty Falls, okay. ah What'd you think about Liberty Falls as far as how it looked?

01:26:40.83
Sentfrmheaven
uh Liberty Falls looks good uh it reminds me of um what's that one game we played on the xbox red fall it it it gave me a it gave me like you know like that red fall town feel you know yeah so

01:26:50.96
Jaime G
That can't be good, man. That's not a good thing.

01:26:58.67
Tony Sisk
Yeah, okay. So ah yeah, I've played a couple hours of of the new Black Ops 6. I will say that I really, really enjoyed the multiplayer.

01:27:18.43
Tony Sisk
ah

01:27:21.06
Tony Sisk
and To me, it just pops, like how it looks. It's like, it's got, it's not shooting for that ultra realistic look like modern warfare ah does. it It's definitely got that old black that black ops feel to it. ah ah I just love the color saturation that's going on. Everything just pops, ah character design ah models the great.

01:27:53.58
Tony Sisk
ah The maps, i've I've played a couple of different maps. I thought the maps were all pretty good. And i I really, really enjoyed my time with the multiplayer.

01:28:06.86
Tony Sisk
Um, so actually I'm really looking forward to getting back in and playing the multiplayer. Uh, I spent a couple hours on the, um, zombie mode, uh, Liberty falls by myself. I did not do squad fill. Cause I just wanted to learn the map on my own. Uh, and it's, I mean, yeah, it's zombies. so it's cool it There's nothing really that like stands out about it.

01:28:33.36
Tony Sisk
it's like nothing is like going oh this is fantastic other than i mean it looks great i think that the just the overall look and i just feel like their their color and use of color and in both the zombies and the multiplayer looks really really good i thought that the ah last the modern warfare and stuff it's more gray very heavy on the grays and browns and stuff this is more I know it's arcadey, but it just feels it looks really, really good. Go ahead.

01:29:10.16
Jaime G
Um, I think, I don't know about this, but we talked about how modern warfare from two to three, all your weapons and skins and everything carried over.

01:29:20.23
Jaime G
And I had made a prediction saying that this was not going to happen again because i they want you buying and grinding and doing everything again.

01:29:25.13
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

01:29:28.73
Jaime G
Was that a prediction? Can you guys confirm it or not?

01:29:31.64
Tony Sisk
So one of the guys at work that plays this, we had this discussion this before we actually started playing the game. And he told me that that the stuff did not carry over that it was going to have to start all over again.

01:29:46.04
Tony Sisk
I can't confirm that yet.

01:29:46.50
Jaime G
that makes ah it would make sense because they want our money and our time.

01:29:48.15
Tony Sisk
If we make sense to me.

01:29:52.88
Tony Sisk
Right. And I'll say this like. The one thing I did not like about, I mean, there's with a lot of things I don't like about Modern Warfare, is the menu systems, the achievement systems, getting in there, digging around and seeing what you've accomplished and stuff like that, yeah.

01:30:12.67
Tony Sisk
It was too hard and confusing. Didn't like it at all. I liked the systems but that appeared in the older Black Ops games where it was more like ah you you're returning a page, right?

01:30:25.56
Tony Sisk
And you could see all your calling cards, right?

01:30:26.38
Jaime G
Like, Cold War did it right.

01:30:30.03
Tony Sisk
This goes back to that, right? To me, it's like, oh, this just makes more sense. This is cleaner. And it just... The, all the calling cards just pop, and just a fantastic, the art design and makes me want to go earn those things. Right. That was something I did not have. I did not have that urge to do in modern warfare. I just hated their system. I didn't want to complete any challenges. It was just, I don't care about that. This was old school black ops to me. Um, where I made me, Oh.

01:31:05.40
Tony Sisk
I want that calling card. I'm going to go do the things to earn it. Right. So it's like I'm. So I'm playing it on Xbox, but I'm going to play a few more hours and make my decision.

01:31:20.23
Tony Sisk
And if I can play through more of the maps and stuff and see how all the maps are, I'm definitely considering just buying buying this on PlayStation because this is it's hit all the right buttons for me as a Call of Duty player, the things that I liked. Maybe not the zombies mode, but the multiplayer, I'm loving the multiplayer so far, what I've played.

01:31:41.60
Jaime G
Fellas, you will see me playing Marvel Rivals come next month.

01:31:42.04
Sentfrmheaven
Man you know was What was funny is and I didn't even think about this and I don't even but Tony you hit on something That's been a theme that I've been hearing in the lobbies. There's a lot of people that have it on Xbox for free but they bought it on PlayStation and And the number one thing is because they don't want to compete with PC players. Because there's no way for you to turn off like

01:32:16.51
Sentfrmheaven
Xbox console Xbox meaning a like game pass PC like all that's bunch in one group So there's a lot of people there's a few people that I ran into that have actually bought it on PlayStation and they've you know, they're just in the kind like the PlayStation lobbies and stuff like that and I was like man, that's interesting but another thing too so I calm you haven't seen it but it's like once you Like get some complete something everything comes on one page. It has like a gun you Katie your reward so like it had the gun and it had like the skin that I unlocked for the headshots and they brought that back it's just straight 100 headshots for the camos that ain't you gotta slide it hits two three people around the corner jump up hit him with the knife you gotta do none of that crazy stuff it's just 100 headshots you know black ops style and um I also got

01:33:03.52
Sentfrmheaven
rewards for zombies that popped up and i like that because you remember when back of mile for three a lot of stuff you got from zombies had to come through the battle path so now you could play multiplayer it still earn rewards in zombies it's for it like a tools cryoreze different things like that So I was like, man, that's nice. she Like I said, it's clean. It's all on one page. You know, you either go back, you know, after you go back to the lobby and hit, ah I think, R2 and it brings up the stats from the last match. But, yeah, everything's clean. Everything's right there. It's bright. You know, definitely like that feel of

01:33:38.97
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so we'll see a couple more hours in play. We'll see what my decision will be on whether or not to get it on PlayStation or not. So anyway, anything else?

01:33:54.31
Sentfrmheaven
I don't think that's it.

01:33:56.04
Jaime G
That's it.

01:33:56.87
Tony Sisk
Awesome. All right. Well, thanks for joining us again for this episode of Good to Game Radio in our big Halloween episode. ah And I thought it was great. It's pretty fun to, you know, I made it out alive with one arm.

01:34:13.30
Jaime G
Barely, man, barely.

01:34:14.52
Sentfrmheaven
ah yes

01:34:15.68
Tony Sisk
All right. So, uh, I think this is streamed on TikTok. Man, it's hooked us up with that. You can check us out on Twitch.

01:34:24.43
Jaime G
And on Twitch.

01:34:26.97
Tony Sisk
Check those out if you want to see the video of us. I don't know. But, uh, jump in the conversation and discord, talk about the episode, talk about your playthrough of Man of Medan, and give that game a shot. Like I said, it's three and a half hours, quick play, and see how you how how well you are managing the lives of your ah those five characters. All right, so thanks again for joining us. We'll catch you on the next episode.

01:35:00.81
Jaime G
See you guys.

01:35:01.49
Sentfrmheaven
Later. Later.