Looking Forward to Marvel Rivals

In this episode Jaime and Tony are looking forward to the release of the new hero shooter Marvel Rivals. Plus, Tony rants about the situation with certain Call of Duty Skins. 

Transcript

00:01.54
Tony Sisk
Hi folks, welcome back to Good To Game Radio. I'm here tonight with Jaime. It's good to see Jaime. I know you've been out of town for a week or so.

00:09.81
Jaime G
Yeah, good to be back, man.

00:10.40
Tony Sisk
How was your working trip?

00:13.21
Jaime G
It was okay. I went to North Carolina, flew into Charlotte, then drove to a place called ah Winston Salem. And then from there ended up in Raleigh and then came back and then, you know, your beat, your sore, you're just tired.

00:28.93
Jaime G
And then we had some friends from church who needed some help moving. So guess what I did on Saturday and Sunday?

00:36.51
Tony Sisk
moving.

00:37.61
Jaime G
Yes.

00:40.21
Jaime G
And then I was just beat. I'm just happy to be able to do this. I needed some downtime. It's good to be here, man.

00:46.18
Tony Sisk
Yeah. go we Welcome back.

00:49.51
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:50.35
Tony Sisk
You missed ah Vance's, Vance and I's episode on Call of Duty. We kind of went over the maps and stuff. um What we liked, what we didn't like, and then Right before tonight's show, you know, I went on a tirade about, uh, some of the stuff that I had encountered in the last couple of days, as far as the dumb skins that have popped up, you know, people running around like like dragons and stuff now in call of duty, just like it was last, last year, you know, and then.

01:12.92
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:20.10
Tony Sisk
being forced to sit through these animment animations when you get shot you know by a lava gun or an acid gun or a coca-cola gun that turns you into a pile of empty cola cans.

01:30.54
Jaime G
It's, it's all about the money, man.

01:34.04
Tony Sisk
So freaking annoying. like Don't make me sit through that guy's animations. I don't want to see that. I didn't pay for it. Like I'm so bad enough getting shot already, but then to turn into a pile of empty cut cans. What is that about? why Why? That's not going to make me want to go buy your dumb skin and dumb gun that turns people in the empty cans. That's dumb.

01:59.20
Jaime G
it's an annoying factor man that way you you annoy the opposing player into rage quitting

02:05.45
Tony Sisk
Oh dude. Yeah. Oh, I did almost rage quit. Yeah. I told you like I was dominating. A lot of the games I was playing, you know, getting a good feel for the game. I'm enjoying the game, right? And then you insert this bull crap um and I really wanted to rage quit. Like I was like, I wanted to throw my so my controller through the TV screen the eighth time I got shot by the cola gun or whatever that turns me into an empty pile of coke cans. Really? That's so stupid.

02:41.20
Jaime G
This is epic, man. you You usually stand up for this franchise.

02:47.47
Tony Sisk
No, this is it's so comical. Like they wanted to turn it into like. I don't know, Fortnite or whatever, Fortnite is better. At least Fortnite is within its theme, right?

02:58.21
Tony Sisk
They established it early.

02:58.28
Jaime G
Yeah, but stay sticks stick in your lane. Fortnite, you're expecting this.

03:00.81
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. Let's get let's get let's get over in a little bit of Fortnite territory so we can get some of that money over there and what they're doing. But it doesn't match what your what your theme is.

03:14.05
Tony Sisk
Like modern warfare.

03:14.40
Jaime G
Right.

03:16.35
Tony Sisk
Oh. with a root and captain, uh, or Skeletor and bushes and stuff with guns.

03:24.81
Jaime G
Wait, you were talking about something, some dude with like a neon camel or something that you could just see like straight across the map.

03:24.97
Tony Sisk
So dumb.

03:32.40
Tony Sisk
Yeah. He's like a Elder Scrolls, Skyrim dragon soldier or whatever that's.

03:36.16
Jaime G
yeah Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. i and I was reading about this. Yeah. Now that you said that it hit it.

03:43.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah. like seven foot tall green neon colored dragon outfit that stands out like a sore thumb. If I'm your teammate, I'd be pissed that you'd have that on because you're literally costing us the game because you're such a big glowing target that everybody can see. Like, why would you even put yourself in that disadvantage? Just because, oh, look, I want to see it show everybody that I spent $30, you know, on this, this outfit that doesn't even belong in the game.

04:16.31
Tony Sisk
Anyway, what were we talking about?

04:17.76
Jaime G
Easy, easy, to easy, Tony. Well, I think the community is listening to you because this amongst um the game of actually being released on Game Pass has reported in the UK less 10 percent less sales than they did the year prior. And that if that's any indication of something, 10 percent for a Call of Duty game, that's a lot.

04:47.97
Tony Sisk
Well, I mean.

04:50.72
Tony Sisk
Is that what the market share for England's Xbox ownership is is about 10 percent. Does that fall in line with that?

04:59.95
Jaime G
I don't know.

05:01.08
Tony Sisk
I mean, I am i I'm playing it on Xbox. um Where I've almost exclusively played Call of Duty on PlayStation for years and years and years. I'm playing on Xbox.

05:12.06
Tony Sisk
Why? Because I'm paying for an Xbox subscription.

05:15.14
Jaime G
Yeah, you are.

05:16.23
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I'm paying for it and the connectivity sucks. You know, I don't know.

05:23.10
Jaime G
Wait, wait, whoa.

05:23.48
Tony Sisk
That's me. It could be me.

05:24.50
Jaime G
No, that's, that's partially you.

05:25.30
Tony Sisk
It could be expo is fortunately me.

05:26.56
Jaime G
Okay. Okay. So for anybody who's, who's just listening, yeah, no, it's, it's okay.

05:28.32
Tony Sisk
And I'm like, to be fair, it's probably my wifi.

05:33.67
Jaime G
Any, everyone, before Tony goes on on this, he admitted to me that he doesn't have his X-Pac connected, you know, hardwired.

05:45.25
Jaime G
It's on the wifi and on games like this, you want to be, you want to avoid the wifi.

05:54.76
Tony Sisk
But even still, even still, if I'm playing it noon, like I played it noon today.

05:55.18
Jaime G
I'll give you an Ethernet switch, man.

06:02.54
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I don't know. I don't have any issues with my wifi. We're on wifi right now. I'm in the totally opposite end of the house. We're on wifi. I'm not having an issue.

06:11.81
Jaime G
you Your is kind of coming in pretty pixelated.

06:17.97
Jaime G
Maybe that's what it is.

06:21.57
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it could be, but regardless.

06:22.64
Jaime G
Well, I mean, what do you think? I mean, i mean let's let's talk about this. I mean, you and Vance have shared your ideas about this game. You're kind of, you're right now, what are we at? The three week bark at this point?

06:34.48
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah, three weeks.

06:36.14
Jaime G
Okay, three weeks out, games on the game is on game pass. So a lot of people, honestly, I was talking with my cousins, J-Rod and Odie, and they were like, dude, don't buy the game. Just get a subscription to Game Pass. And I was like, haha, jokes on you, my friends. I don't have an Xbox. And they're like, no, jokes on you. You can play it on your PC yeah with with a Game Pass description. i I was like, what? So I was like, do I want to spend 20 bucks and try it out for a month? ah But even then, I was like, no, I'm skipping this game.

07:16.32
Tony Sisk
I mean.

07:16.77
Jaime G
wait Point is I think the reception on this has been not amazing. They say it's a good game that they, they change the, the, the dynamics, the mobility, but I think let's, I want to see if game pass is going to hurt cells significantly because, because

07:38.82
Tony Sisk
Right. I will say this about the mobility. I mean, it's a, it's a big selling piece, you know, especially when you start to game up and you go through the tutorial, it's kind of like, Oh, we've added this stuff.

07:50.83
Tony Sisk
Um, I mean, I don't know if it makes that big a difference in gameplay. Like the most useful aspect is you can lay on your back and kind of do like move around freely 360, you know, on your back.

08:03.01
Jaime G
Yeah.

08:03.97
Tony Sisk
I'm like, that's useful. Um, I really haven't used a whole lot of it, not purposely, you know, accidentally I might have like dove to the right, you know, or dove to the left.

08:17.47
Tony Sisk
It's more often not gotten me killed because it was doing something I didn't want to do. Um, but I mean, the, the, the movement's probably over. So like it's not that big a deal.

08:29.77
Tony Sisk
Um, I will say that I.

08:30.81
Jaime G
A lot of people are saying that the movement is great because of this.

08:34.39
Tony Sisk
Yeah, the movement, the movement is great. It feels great. ah But the data the added aspects of the movement, you know, it's not as big. It's not as impactful as you would think because it sounds right.

08:47.13
Jaime G
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08:47.41
Tony Sisk
ah

08:49.88
Tony Sisk
The thing I will say is they did a really good job with and there's a lot of maps. A lot of maps. So like I said, Vance and I, previous episode, you have a list to it. Check it out.

09:00.85
Tony Sisk
ah We kind of break down like the first 16 standard maps. I don't know if they call them strike maps or whatever they're called.

09:07.91
Jaime G
That's a lot.

09:08.75
Tony Sisk
Typical six versus six maps. ah we broke We broke each one of those down, whether we liked them, disliked them, whatever. And that was only after like nine days of playing the game. My opinion on some of those maps have have shifted a little bit here and there.

09:24.15
Tony Sisk
um but They've also added other maps. There's like, yeah, like smaller maps that fit their new mode. And I can't remember what it's called now off the top of my head, where it modes where they don't, you don't use score streaks or kill streaks. There's, there's none of those. It's just you and your gun and your grenades.

09:50.76
Tony Sisk
versus the other team. And there's no calling in of these extra added kill streaks and stuff. And face off. I think that's the mode. It's called face off. And there are typically various other smaller maps and stuff that's played on. There's some really good maps in there.

10:07.23
Tony Sisk
ah There might be three, six additional maps on top of that. So we're looking in the 20s, maybe of maps right off the bat.

10:14.70
Jaime G
Yeah.

10:16.83
Tony Sisk
So lots of maps, which is that's cool. But, you know, it's and other than that, it plays like standard black ops game.

10:32.08
Tony Sisk
I do kind of miss the versions where you had like the special abilities for each character had their own special ability. I know they went away from that, but I did enjoy that ah when they did that.

10:43.64
Tony Sisk
But this, you know, this, yeah, no, it was just like backups three, I think was the last one that had it.

10:44.05
Jaime G
That's a couple generations ago, isn't it?

10:50.39
Tony Sisk
ah But this, you know, it plays like any of the most recent car duties, you know, so it I've had a good time.

11:02.34
Tony Sisk
I just There's some aggravating things, you know, that recently popped up as far as like, you know, the stupid seizure in animations where you're getting shot, you know, and turn into stupid things and stuff.

11:20.22
Tony Sisk
You know, so it's like.

11:20.60
Jaime G
Well, so so Tony, I was at a at a church event two Saturdays ago and I ran into Carlos, you know, a fellow listener to the show, you know, and he made a comment like, hey, you're skipping out Black Ops six.

11:34.70
Tony Sisk
Oh yeah.

11:37.60
Jaime G
I was like, yeah, I am. I'm waiting for my marble rivals. And one of his children was like, yeah.

11:47.77
Jaime G
I'm still excited.

11:48.25
Tony Sisk
Mhm.

11:48.73
Jaime G
We're like a 33 days for the release of this thing. And the more and more I see of it. And, you know, when we they just did the roadmap announcement, kind of what they're planning. I'm excited about this game a lot more than I have been for any any other shooter like this.

12:05.43
Tony Sisk
Alright, yeah, so let's get into Marvel Marvel Rivals, right?

12:07.92
Jaime G
Yeah.

12:08.98
Tony Sisk
Let's get into it some so release dates December 6, right?

12:13.62
Jaime G
December six, free to play.

12:15.11
Tony Sisk
This image is free to play it's on the consoles PC 33

12:17.98
Jaime G
I think it's over 30 care heroes, like on day one.

12:21.58
Tony Sisk
33 heroes have been announced.

12:22.55
Jaime G
Yeah.

12:25.74
Tony Sisk
Let me see. We got a list. Yes. We got a list. We got Star Lord Hella.

12:30.77
Jaime G
a

12:30.95
Tony Sisk
Namor. Loki. Magic. Don't know who that is. Groot. Rocket. Luna. Snow. Black Panther. Iron Man. Hulk. Spider Man. Doctor Strange.

12:41.33
Tony Sisk
Magneto. Mantis. Penny Parker. Venom. Adam Warlock. Scarlet Witch. Storm. The Punisher. Jeff The Landshark.

12:52.33
Tony Sisk
No clue. Thor, Captain America, Winter Soldier, Psylocke, and Moon Knight. Those last two they just sent announced. And I think there's six more that they haven't revealed yet that are going to be ah revealed pretty soon.

13:00.02
Jaime G
Yeah.

13:05.54
Jaime G
Well, it's probably Wolverine. You know, you're going to get a Wolverine at some point.

13:11.24
Tony Sisk
Probably.

13:11.42
Jaime G
It's probably Cyclops.

13:12.13
Tony Sisk
But I mean, there's literally hundreds of characters, right? They could pick from a

13:14.83
Jaime G
And some other B-listers out there.

13:17.97
Tony Sisk
B-lister.

13:18.26
Jaime G
Hawkeye.

13:20.94
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah, Hawkeye. Yeah. um

13:22.33
Jaime G
Yeah.

13:23.64
Tony Sisk
i mean um would rather have jeff to I mean, I would rather have I than Hawkeye, I'm saying.

13:23.98
Jaime G
You need somebody with a bow and arrow.

13:30.69
Jaime G
But but I'm like super excited about this game free to play. I think that they're only going to monetize the cosmetics about this, but I'm not a big cosmetic guy because.

13:41.48
Tony Sisk
Well, I think the lead developer you know came out and said, there's nothing, you you cannot buy anything that's gonna give you an advantage, a power advantage. So of obviously then that just means cosmetics, right?

13:55.11
Jaime G
Yeah, right. Right, right. So um' i'm I'm looking for this and then they ah the developer also in the interview was talking about how every season, which is going to be spaced out, I think three months apart.

14:07.71
Tony Sisk
Three month season, yep.

14:09.61
Jaime G
You're going to get a new map and a new hero.

14:16.03
Jaime G
And and with with you having to pay zero extra, I mean, this this game has got the visual presentation. It's got the IP. It's got it's the road map doesn't sound like it's going to be terrible as for a consumer.

14:32.85
Tony Sisk
Yeah, let's talk about the visual presentation.

14:33.40
Jaime G
I'm just.

14:35.38
Tony Sisk
ah I think it looks pretty sharp.

14:35.55
Jaime G
Yeah, of course.

14:37.44
Tony Sisk
It it kind of it kind of has like this card, obviously card, comic book, live comic book look to it. It's like, you know, right?

14:48.58
Jaime G
You know, these well, it came from comic book characters, so I think if it's well.

14:51.96
Tony Sisk
right Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, look, I'm not like, it's not just, it doesn't look like Overwatch, right? per say it's like it's You would think it's Overwatch, but it doesn't have that same look from what I've seen.

15:07.49
Tony Sisk
the the I don't know if if you watched, well, Spider-Man, that's animated into the Spider-Verse, you know, how that that movie, those movies were, there was a positive perception to like how old

15:15.84
Jaime G
Into the spider verse.

15:26.52
Tony Sisk
they really brought out the comic book background with Spider-Man.

15:29.34
Jaime G
Right, right.

15:29.40
Tony Sisk
You would get like frames and stuff. I'm not saying that that's what's gonna show up here, but you could definitely tell the comic book inspiration that's happening.

15:38.03
Jaime G
It's the it's heavily inspired totally agree there.

15:41.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so I think it looks pretty good and and unique in that regard. And then what what we're saying as far as like the seasons, you know, one map, one character,

15:54.27
Jaime G
Mm hmm. But I mean, think about it. I mean, they're just telling you there's no guesswork. Give it three months. Get a new map. Give it another three months. Get a separate map. You don't like one of them.

16:05.87
Jaime G
It's OK. You just had to play through three months versus like these road maps where like you're like, when is it?

16:08.88
Tony Sisk
Yeah. ah

16:13.50
Jaime G
When's the next one coming out? We've had we haven't had anything forever.

16:19.56
Jaime G
I don't know. I I I don't right out of the gate. I have high hopes for this, like really high hopes for this.

16:27.95
Tony Sisk
Right. So how many how many characters are on each team? during a game mode.

16:36.24
Jaime G
Isn't it a six V six?

16:37.87
Tony Sisk
Is it six versus six?

16:39.25
Jaime G
I think so.

16:39.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah, makes sense. ah

16:44.53
Tony Sisk
So yeah, it it kind of a lot like ah the Overwatch and the game modes and stuff. So you've got like,

16:55.66
Jaime G
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

16:56.66
Tony Sisk
control a point or you're fighting over a point, um escort mission, and then like like a domination mode where there's like three different points or stuff on a map which you're trying to control.

17:09.29
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

17:11.27
Tony Sisk
I think those are the base modes coming out.

17:13.53
Jaime G
Yep.

17:16.19
Tony Sisk
So that should be fairly familiar to you know most hero shooter players.

17:16.62
Jaime G
Yeah. and and And the one thing i i'm i I don't think I remember seeing recently, not saying that it hasn't been done, but I don't think I remember seeing it, is the fact that they're going to have like these, what's the right word, these synergy abilities?

17:32.89
Tony Sisk
of the hero combo combo abilities where two heroes can combine together to do something special.

17:39.17
Jaime G
Dynamic hero synergy is the right word.

17:44.48
Tony Sisk
you know i mean

17:45.08
Jaime G
But did you catch in the roadmap where they said that even in the new roadmaps, they might add new synergy abilities between existing characters?

17:54.04
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I saw where they were talking about like

17:59.29
Tony Sisk
existing characters would get updated new abilities and stuff as the seasons progress.

18:03.69
Jaime G
Yeah, so so it's so so that that's something additional to look for. Let's say like that you play Jeff the Landshark and not play Namor, right? I mean, they're both water.

18:15.47
Jaime G
and let's say that in the first season there's like no synergy ability but then all of a sudden it's like hey dude did you realize that we could do this together now dude this is epic we're gonna be invincible that kind of conversation well if some if something's terribly broken they're gonna they're gonna nerf it or or remove it is my thoughts

18:25.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I wonder, is that If that's going to be something that's going to be able to carry over as the seasons, you know, progress, like what you had in the first season is still going to be available to you in season three or four, like a skill tree.

18:43.00
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. But when I'm, when I'm thinking, it's like they're they building out. the skills of the characters, like a skill tree, you know, like an RPG where you can like pick and choose from a growing list of skill abilities that, you know, instead of where you're just kind of relying on them to tell you, Oh, these are the three abilities you're going to have in the game currently.

19:08.21
Tony Sisk
And then in the next season, we're going to switch one of those. ah You'll no longer have access to that one ability that was removed, but we're replacing it.

19:14.16
Jaime G
Oh, oh, maybe.

19:17.70
Tony Sisk
I don't think they were clear on. how that's going to work. I would love the idea that they could, they would just keep the growing skill tree.

19:22.33
Jaime G
yeah

19:26.55
Jaime G
ah I would like that because that that gives them an opportunity to to experiment in an interesting way that, you know, Call of Duty is not able to right now because they're they're locked in in a certain formula.

19:27.14
Tony Sisk
You know what I'm saying?

19:42.51
Jaime G
unless they completely lose their market. Yeah, I don't I think that this is a great opportunity for them to test out and you know test the waters, push the envelope a little bit.

19:53.65
Jaime G
I mean, what what can they lose? They just wait a month or sorry, three months and then they can just, you know, change it. I'm I'm super excited about this game and I'm um I am literally taking vacation just to play this game, just focus on this and, you know, have a blast with it.

20:00.64
Tony Sisk
Right.

20:13.15
Jaime G
Sad thing is that it comes out the week.

20:13.26
Tony Sisk
what is What is December 6?

20:16.40
Jaime G
It comes out the week, the Friday after Thanksgiving. And I am like upset about that because if they had released it the week of Thanksgiving, if they pushed up the release by one week, they would have had everybody in the world.

20:32.05
Jaime G
Well, there's not the world. A lot of people in North America playing it because everyone's going to be on vacation around this time frame.

20:39.77
Tony Sisk
So the six is a Friday.

20:41.45
Jaime G
Uh huh.

20:42.32
Tony Sisk
Man, I have to work.

20:42.53
Jaime G
Uh huh.

20:44.25
Tony Sisk
However, is that like 6.01 a.m.

20:44.40
Jaime G
I, well, me, I might, I might.

20:48.69
Tony Sisk
on the six or that's really the seventh? you like Oh, midnight on the six, but it's really the seventh.

20:55.08
Jaime G
i I think I read somewhere like, like midnight, whatever the server time is.

21:02.15
Tony Sisk
Okay.

21:03.04
Jaime G
So you're not going to play this game of like, let me change my time zone to Australia. And then I can play it like eight hours earlier.

21:09.39
Tony Sisk
Yeah, well, that was one of the aspects they were promoting too, wasn't it? Is that the ability to select what server server you could be on to best um optimize your connection and lower your ping?

21:17.04
Jaime G
Uh-huh. Yeah.

21:22.32
Tony Sisk
That was something that we were really pushing. like yeah they ah think and they're thinking I'm thinking they were launching those server nodes here pretty soon.

21:30.58
Jaime G
Yeah, but you're going to have to have a hardwired connection, Tony.

21:34.67
Tony Sisk
Oh, don't worry. I'll be on my PlayStation. My PlayStation will have a hardwire. So i wont I won't be, you know, having the connection issues on that because it's, it's hardwired with one gigabyte, you know, broadband, whatever you want to call it, which is again, why I'm like, how is an issue? I literally have like fiber optic going on into my house. I'm like, this should not be an issue,

22:01.81
Jaime G
Well.

22:01.86
Tony Sisk
but it's definitely hardwired. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm excited for this game.

22:05.81
Jaime G
Now, you know, one thing that this game is not going to have the luxury luxury of this year, it may be potentially next year.

22:12.85
Tony Sisk
What's up.

22:16.40
Jaime G
It's not going to be nominated for any of the game awards, which their li the list of nominees was released just today. Did you know that?

22:25.32
Tony Sisk
I don't know who's the nominations.

22:27.98
Jaime G
All right, for the coveted prize of game of the year, Astrobot, which I find questionable. I've, I've, me and my son have flattened, um, Astrobot.

22:41.29
Jaime G
It's a great fun game.

22:45.54
Jaime G
A great fun game does not make it a game of the year. Nominate nominee for me.

22:51.85
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

22:52.54
Jaime G
Um, I don't know about this game. It's called Balatro. Do you know anything about this?

23:00.22
Tony Sisk
Never heard of it.

23:01.42
Jaime G
Never. Well, it's nominated for Game of the Year, my friend.

23:03.43
Tony Sisk
This is a bilateral.

23:06.19
Jaime G
um Black Myth Wukong, which for you, Tony, just for you is going to get a physical release on PlayStation.

23:16.49
Tony Sisk
ah Yeah, there we go.

23:18.24
Jaime G
um

23:19.04
Tony Sisk
That's what we're talking about.

23:19.38
Jaime G
Elden, Elden Ring Shadow ah of the Air Tree.

23:22.88
Tony Sisk
That's an expansion.

23:24.03
Jaime G
Exactly right. I mean, this game was was Game of the Year a couple of years ago, three years ago.

23:28.44
Tony Sisk
How is that even a nomination? That's an expansion. That can't be in this category.

23:31.36
Jaime G
i I agree. a Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, which to me is probably not going to get it because we've had this argument like remakes, remasters, never take it home.

23:45.49
Jaime G
So, you know, I'm great. I'm happy that it's getting the recognition. I doubt it's going to take it. And last one is Metaphor Rephantasia, which is kind of like a Persona 5.

23:54.58
Tony Sisk
OK, I'm interested in that game. I'm interested in that game. I'm I'm purchasing that game. I haven't done it yet, but.

24:02.04
Jaime G
Why would you purchase it?

24:02.53
Tony Sisk
i

24:03.38
Jaime G
Game pass. We've just talked about it.

24:06.70
Tony Sisk
Wait, it's not it's not on game pass.

24:09.19
Jaime G
Is it not?

24:11.27
Tony Sisk
Name the game again.

24:13.36
Jaime G
Metaphor refantage you.

24:15.44
Tony Sisk
No, that's not on game pass.

24:19.42
Jaime G
We'll take that Xbox.

24:25.25
Jaime G
Well, those are...

24:25.65
Tony Sisk
It's from Atlas, right? you know It's the newest Atlas release, right?

24:29.11
Jaime G
Yeah, it's it's like a Persona 5 game.

24:31.17
Tony Sisk
Yeah, first time in five.

24:31.27
Jaime G
Yeah, exactly.

24:32.49
Tony Sisk
It's like, yeah, that's not on Xbox.

24:32.97
Jaime G
Yeah.

24:35.69
Tony Sisk
No, that's not on Xbox.

24:36.14
Jaime G
um Like at all, like not on Xbox or just not on Game Pass.

24:38.99
Tony Sisk
No. No, it's not on Game Pass. It's, yeah. Believe me, I would be playing it it if it was. I've looked.

24:49.90
Jaime G
OK, well, well, those are the nominees. There's a bunch of other categories, but your games for game of the year are those. And quite frankly,

25:00.53
Jaime G
If Astrobot wins, I might be upset because again, it's a good game. It's not a game of the year game. Black Men Wukong, maybe. be Okay. I'm just, I'm just going to say maybe, uh, Elden Ring. That'd be crazy. That's DLC. DLC should not be game of the year. Um, uh, Final Fantasy rebirth. Probably not. It's a remake. Let's be honest.

25:25.99
Jaime G
So I think it's between, I don't know what Bellatro is, Black Meek Wukong, and Metaphor Rifantagio. The games were, um it is silent.

25:34.39
Tony Sisk
There's no solid healer.

25:38.88
Jaime G
Silent Hill is um nominated in a different category. It is not for game of the year, it's nominated for best narrative, best performance, and best score in music.

25:52.83
Jaime G
Oh, and best audio too.

25:56.15
Tony Sisk
So what makes it different than the game that won last year? Alan Wake.

26:05.69
Jaime G
Alan, what do you mean? What makes it different? It's a completely different, different scenario. Alan Wake is like this, go solve this murder mystery. Whereas Silent Hills, go figure out what happened to your presumably dead wife.

26:18.99
Tony Sisk
And that's different how, like you're both going to go figure out some mystery.

26:24.54
Jaime G
But it's completely different, for it man.

26:29.78
Jaime G
It's completely different. I i always told you Silent Hill was not a contender for me for game of the year. I said it many times.

26:37.98
Tony Sisk
Spider-Man.

26:38.51
Jaime G
What I'm surprised though, is for Spider-Man, I'm not seeing anything. That's not right. That was a good game.

26:48.45
Tony Sisk
spidman

26:49.63
Jaime G
Yeah.

26:50.95
Tony Sisk
But that was the year before.

26:53.71
Jaime G
Wait, was it?

26:57.96
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Alan Wake won game of the year last year. Nobody played Alan Wake. It was, it was one of those games where only the critics played it and they loved it and they named and and they got it voted game of the year.

27:07.90
Jaime G
well And they loved it.

27:17.30
Tony Sisk
And, but like the mass public did not play it.

27:17.97
Jaime G
Well, Alan Wake was this, this, it was this one weird one that came out of nowhere. Like, I think only few people had played it. It had been released very recently. And then it's like, Hey, here's your nominee for game of the year.

27:30.88
Jaime G
And it was like, say what?

27:31.32
Tony Sisk
Yeah. It literally was released like right before the awards.

27:35.62
Jaime G
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

27:36.67
Tony Sisk
And then all of a sudden it's game of the year and nobody's played it.

27:39.41
Jaime G
Right. So, you know,

27:41.35
Tony Sisk
How's that? How can that be game of the year? If nobody plays your game, does that make you game of the year?

27:47.65
Jaime G
If the critics decide it is, yeah.

27:48.12
Tony Sisk
Apparently, apparently they decided, yeah, that though, even though, you know, it's owed nothing. I mean, that's a good discussion. Like if, What makes a game of the year?

28:01.13
Tony Sisk
The fans, the critics.

28:03.58
Jaime G
It's not the fans.

28:03.58
Tony Sisk
Well, it's obviously not the fans because ah you had a game that won and nobody even played it.

28:11.15
Jaime G
Yeah. So, and, and, and, you know, I dunno, this is an interesting conversation cause I've frankly, frankly, don't know the answer. All I know is it this started because at the release date of marble rivals, it's not going to be, be nominated for anything for 2024 and Probably not 2025 if it let's say if it's any if if it's any decent, okay I'm not saying that it's going to be great It's just like, huh? What? Um So, yeah, those are your your game nominees man who who you're rooting for

28:58.12
Tony Sisk
i I don't know. I'm gonna root for the Atlas game, even though I haven't played it. Doesn't matter.

29:04.85
Jaime G
Well, I mean, okay. So, so I, I've been reading about this because like you, I haven't played it, but the outlet that I was reading this information, they're saying like, look, Atlas has carved out this niche market and they, they know how to do this type of games now. Um, so they're like, they're just, they're just sticking to the stuff that that they can that they can you know produce and be good at.

29:39.04
Jaime G
um

29:39.38
Tony Sisk
Right. Just before you continue, just I just want to point out and wait to what was released in October 2023. Had a Metacritic score of 89.

29:51.91
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

29:54.38
Tony Sisk
So one million units by the end of December. Silent Hill to.

30:01.88
Tony Sisk
As a Metacritic score of 86 and so over one million copies.

30:07.15
Jaime G
yeah

30:09.98
Tony Sisk
but yet in an arguably weaker year, weaker year. Now, Alan Wake went up against Spider-Man, right?

30:21.15
Jaime G
Yep. Yep. And see a star. Don't forget that.

30:25.18
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Silent Hill isn't even the nominated. You're telling me. Yeah, it it basically has the exact same

30:32.40
Jaime G
Not for game of the year.

30:36.59
Tony Sisk
Metrics as Alan Wake to in a weaker year. He's not going to be in Spider-Man or anything like that. ah There's that there just hasn't been a lot of great games this year.

30:44.62
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

30:49.13
Tony Sisk
um But you're telling me there's a game I haven't even heard of.

30:51.69
Jaime G
Well,

30:53.82
Tony Sisk
What was it called again?

30:55.06
Jaime G
Balatro, B-A-L-A-T-R-O. You know, you know, which one I honestly think got, got a big snub but since we're, since we're on this.

31:07.10
Jaime G
And you tell me if I'm on it or if I'm crazy. I think that, what is that one that you're playing? Dragon Age, The Vale Guard.

31:17.55
Tony Sisk
Dragon Age. Belvard, yep.

31:20.66
Jaime G
I mean, I feel like those games, I seem to remember them have like mass critical acceptance.

31:28.37
Tony Sisk
Okay. um I want to get into Dragon Age. Before I get into Dragon Age, I looked up your bilateral game that's nominated for Game of the Year.

31:35.87
Jaime G
Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, it's not mine, but yet.

31:38.87
Tony Sisk
Okay. It's it's a Steam-based game. It's a Steam game. Steam game. is a poker inspired roguelike deck builder, all about creating powerful synergies and winning big.

31:53.11
Tony Sisk
It's a card game. Are you serious?

31:54.77
Jaime G
Mm hmm.

31:56.15
Tony Sisk
Are you serious?

31:57.45
Jaime G
Yes, it's like inscription.

32:00.05
Tony Sisk
this is ah Oh my gosh. The game industry is at a new low. I'm sorry. when you're When your biggest award of the year, biggest award of the year,

32:13.69
Tony Sisk
is nominating a freaking poker game, a poker game as one of your games of the year. That, that just is the state of something is not right.

32:25.52
Jaime G
Something's not right.

32:28.37
Tony Sisk
Give me a break. This is, it's got a metacritic score of 90, but it's a card game.

32:40.20
Tony Sisk
but You know, not to say like a game like Slay the Spire, which is also a card game.

32:42.27
Jaime G
Yes, sir.

32:46.76
Tony Sisk
You know, everybody loves that game. I've played a little bit of it.

32:48.75
Jaime G
Yeah.

32:49.24
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's good. Yeah. But look I'm looking at, I'm looking at the images of this and I'm not saying that, you know, there wasn't a lot of work and effort by the developers going into this game.

33:01.95
Tony Sisk
Never played it, whatever, but it's on the surface.

33:07.61
Tony Sisk
I'm like, I don't even know how this is in the same category.

33:08.34
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah, I know. I it's hey, but let's get Jeff.

33:13.17
Tony Sisk
This should have its own category. Okay.

33:16.01
Jaime G
Let's get Jeff Keeley on the podcast. We can ask him what kind of what what happened. What was the thought process about that?

33:24.86
Jaime G
um

33:25.36
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah. The world is upside down.

33:25.73
Jaime G
So. Speaking of snubs. Okay. Dragon Age, the veil guard. This is a game that I don't know if we've said this in the podcast, you've told me that you've been playing on and off.

33:41.81
Tony Sisk
ah Right, yeah, so I picked it up despite the fact that you know, this was a highly anticipated release ah from For a franchise that you know, I remember playing the first Dragon Age White Donald 14 years ago.

34:03.31
Tony Sisk
I don't remember when it came out Dragon Age origins.

34:04.41
Jaime G
ah Dragon Age Inquisition, I think came out in 2014.

34:07.60
Tony Sisk
I Think it was origins

34:11.27
Tony Sisk
Now that was the PS4 Dragon Age, I had that game, but that wasn't, but there was a, there was a Dragon Age one, Dragon Age two, then there was Dragon Age Inquisition.

34:16.26
Jaime G
Right.

34:23.79
Tony Sisk
Dragon Age Origins, I played on PS3, pretty sure.

34:27.40
Jaime G
Uh huh.

34:30.65
Tony Sisk
Let me look. Yeah, i you know, I really enjoyed that game.

34:38.42
Tony Sisk
But yeah, this franchise, you know, it's a big franchise. um And it was highly anticipated. And then the review embargo kind of lifted and the critics just slammed, slammed it, hated it.

34:49.94
Jaime G
Right.

34:54.55
Tony Sisk
A lot of them did. um Said it was, I mean, criticized the writing, criticizing the voice acting, criticizing just all kinds of Like, the game didn't offer you enough choice, or didn't, like, their choices were meaningless and whatever. Maybe that ah that's true. I'm not that far into the game. yeah I'm probably five or six hours into the game.

35:19.19
Jaime G
Oh, no, no, man. i My friend who wants to play Dragon Age, he's like 20 hours in and he's like, dude, I'm not even halfway through.

35:27.92
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. ah Dragon Age Origins was 2009. ah So it's it's it's it's got,

35:39.00
Tony Sisk
you know, from the previous games, you usually have a ah ah strong story and, you know, that you're working to the end, but there's ah all these branching ways of getting to the end, right? ah And you kind of put together, you know, a team of guys, to a team of NPCs and you're finding, and you, I mean, I remember, I love like,

36:03.41
Tony Sisk
origins, like you could like basically pre-program each character to behave in a certain way in in a so scenario in a situation of combat.

36:13.82
Tony Sisk
like So you could really get down into the details about how they were going to behave. ah They don't have that system in here, ah ah which is interesting because it's like, ah why that why don't they have that system?

36:24.21
Jaime G
Well, I if you remember, like the very like the first and second.

36:26.66
Tony Sisk
but

36:31.91
Jaime G
Kingdom Heart Games had like a really in-depth customization set up where you could say how goofy and Donald Duck would react under like tons of scenarios.

36:45.60
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. So the original game was like that. I'm pretty sure origin, not origins, but like number two was like that and Inquisition was kind of like that too. ah Maybe we not as much, but i't I haven't seen anything like that. but ah In my party when I'm playing, i can I can command each character to do certain kind of on the fly, right? I would rather not do that, maybe I just haven't gotten to the point where that's an option where I can pre-select their behaviors and stuff, which I would love to do. ah I will say, though, that I've, you know, in the time I've played the game, ah I think it looks great. The voice acting has been good. um I mean, the dialogue is not that great, but it's also not that bad either. It's normal dialogue.

37:45.01
Tony Sisk
I've been entertained. I work with a guy. He debated whether or not to get the game too. he up getting a heap He's really enjoying it. My daughter, who's been on the show, she's like 60 hours into the game. She absolutely loves the game.

38:03.79
Tony Sisk
And I don't i understand where the disparity disparity is between the critics. And I've and i've seen a couple of them. And one of them, you know, and and ones that I've really you know, give a lot of stock to, i'll listen to, and their opinions and stuff. And I really think what it is is like day they had this vision of those old games, like I was telling you how that one behaved before, where you can micro program the characters and stuff to behave a certain way.

38:35.23
Tony Sisk
ah I think they were looking for those all those bars to be met and something to be added to it. and And it's not.

38:46.54
Tony Sisk
And then they just say, oh, yeah, this is not a Dragon Age game. And they're just kind of like ripping it. ah How I look at it is like they're really looking at a new audience here.

38:52.71
Jaime G
Okay.

38:58.81
Jaime G
that Sounds like a, what was that?

38:59.02
Tony Sisk
Like they're not.

39:01.59
Jaime G
A Star Wars out loss.

39:03.88
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah.

39:05.26
Jaime G
Where, where people were like pretty harsh on it without really having it given it a fair chance.

39:05.56
Tony Sisk
um

39:11.72
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, I've played Star Wars Outlaws. I will say it's very mid but uh

39:18.85
Jaime G
Okay.

39:23.09
Tony Sisk
But with this game, I'm like, I have been really entertained playing it. And I was really scared, like, oh, I'm dropping $69 on the disk. I'm going to play it, and it's going to really stink like these guys said it was going to stink. And so far, I have not encountered any, oh, this is absurd. you know like Nothing's caused me to go, what's wrong with this game? Why did they do this? you know

39:50.48
Tony Sisk
everything is If you're just getting into, and this is what I'm saying, this is kind of like starting from scratch for a new audience. Like if you're just getting into like fantasy, ah like the whole, oh, we have a team of people and we're going to go.

40:06.75
Tony Sisk
through this heavy narrative story where you have some choice in there. This is kind of like. A start over, right, or a new ah introduction to this type of game where I know it doesn't advance the. The whole idea of this type of game being, you know. ah Just tons of options and stuff like that, like it's nowhere near as far as options, what's the one that that you did not like Baldur's Gate.

40:36.97
Jaime G
Baldur's Gate 3.

40:39.80
Tony Sisk
There's nowhere near that in as far as options ah with your characters and stuff. But on its own, as a solid it's a solid game.

40:50.51
Tony Sisk
So if you're, I mean, it's definitely worth playing. I don't, I don't, I've really enjoyed it. And just looking at the, um,

41:03.29
Tony Sisk
I think I just saw like 95% of players enjoy the game.

41:10.32
Jaime G
That's, that's actually pretty, pretty solid.

41:10.52
Tony Sisk
ah Yeah, I just saw this.

41:13.77
Jaime G
We're, we're, we're a hard bunch to please.

41:18.55
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I don't know where that was. I saw that. I just literally saw it scrolling through. oh It was like 95% favorability. but That's pretty good.

41:27.96
Jaime G
Well, yeah.

41:30.35
Tony Sisk
hi So, and and and and I think it's like, this could be like a result of like a cyberpunk where like the reviewers were all like, oh, this is a good game.

41:33.04
Jaime G
Well, well, I'm i'm a, okay.

41:46.49
Tony Sisk
And then it turned out to be trash.

41:48.55
Jaime G
Oh, dad come yeah, listen.

41:48.90
Tony Sisk
and So now they're yeah and they're all just ah going back to the, oh, this game stinks.

41:56.83
Jaime G
Everything sticks.

41:57.16
Tony Sisk
No, you can't play me. Yeah, everything stinks.

42:02.01
Jaime G
Well, I'm going to say this.

42:02.10
Tony Sisk
So.

42:03.67
Jaime G
I'm going to probably because we're a week away from Thanksgiving. I will probably keep an eye out to see kind of what the deals are. Nobody's announcing any sales, man. It's it's like crazy that we're so close and nobody has come out and said, hey, these are the games that we're going to be selling ah cheap. Makes me think that nothing's going to be selling cheap. ah But if I see Ray Fantagio come down in price, I will pick it up just because I had a blast with Persona 5.

42:37.67
Jaime G
um I picked up another game by the by the same company, but I can't remember what is what was called a cyber something. um I can't remember what the...

42:54.58
Jaime G
Anyway, it'll come back to me. um But it was like it was like ah um along the same exact vein of, hey, here's another game that's exactly the same.

42:56.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

43:06.50
Jaime G
We're just gonna name it something different. and I enjoyed it. I didn't get through it. It was actually even on PlayStation Plus a couple of months ago. That's why that's kind of how how I got it.

43:19.20
Jaime G
But again, I probably didn't spend a lot of time on it, but yeah.

43:20.35
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

43:25.39
Jaime G
ah Point is, if I see it cheap, I might pick it up.

43:33.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I'll give my eye out for that game too.

43:33.96
Jaime G
But if not,

43:38.81
Jaime G
Yeah, so God, I remember what the name of this game was, man. Anyway, it'll hit me. um Last thing, Tony, were you this is the last thing this is meant to be like a really short segment. Are you familiar with PlayStation all stars?

44:03.29
Tony Sisk
uh i am not familiar with it oh that's the reward program right i did not realize that you were getting like

44:06.04
Jaime G
It's not all stars are PlayStation stars.

44:11.90
Jaime G
Yeah, I didn't realize I have the equivalent of like almost $40. And if I happen to pop in, in the next two weeks, Southern Hill two into my PlayStation, I'm going to get a collectible for pyramid head.

44:31.52
Tony Sisk
monetary value as a discount or anything that.

44:33.66
Jaime G
Well, you get, you get, you get points, right? And I've got 9,300 points. and you can redeem the the points for like video games and stuff.

44:47.83
Jaime G
I just realized that they you can actually get $10 gift card for 2,500 points.

44:56.48
Jaime G
That was like, like say what?

44:57.00
Tony Sisk
ah I did not realize that either. Let's see.

45:01.24
Jaime G
aha Okay, okay.

45:02.77
Tony Sisk
Where do you see your points at?

45:05.41
Jaime G
So go go to the main page. where you see your profile, click on the number that says PlayStation stars.

45:10.76
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

45:13.96
Jaime G
And then add in the main page right there will say what your level is, how many points you have. And right underneath it says campaigns, rewards and collectibles go to rewards.

45:25.97
Tony Sisk
Huh. Apparently, I don't have any.

45:31.78
Jaime G
No, no, no, no, you have points. Trust me, you have points.

45:34.26
Tony Sisk
Oh, I see. I have 6,292 points.

45:37.91
Jaime G
then that's basically either $20 or something.

45:45.59
Tony Sisk
Huh. Interesting.

45:47.79
Jaime G
I mean,

45:47.85
Tony Sisk
OK.

45:50.37
Tony Sisk
I had claimed some things a while back.

45:55.55
Jaime G
i mean you can claim some collectibles that do nothing for you.

45:55.59
Tony Sisk
I don't know what they were.

45:58.31
Jaime G
I'm like, I can get cash out of this? Absolutely. But but they just introduced something. And the last month they sent out an email that said that your rewards will start to expire.

46:10.76
Jaime G
They used to not like not to.

46:14.92
Tony Sisk
course

46:16.22
Jaime G
Yeah. Right. Use it or lose it. Basically.

46:19.59
Tony Sisk
That was like a Best Buy's reward program where you would get like certificates.

46:26.91
Jaime G
Gift cards.

46:27.57
Tony Sisk
but Yeah, and then they would expire.

46:28.41
Jaime G
Yeah.

46:31.54
Tony Sisk
Of course, they didn't tell you, oh, your cards about to expire.

46:35.09
Jaime G
Yeah. Yep. Anyway, that's it, man.

46:39.42
Tony Sisk
Dope.

46:39.58
Jaime G
I got I got nothing else other than and'd I'd like to borrow your Southern Hill to copy to get that digital collectible. I'm probably not going to play the game because it's too long.

46:52.50
Jaime G
And I played it on the amazing PlayStation 2.

46:57.50
Tony Sisk
Uh-huh.

46:57.54
Jaime G
So there's no spoilers coming for me, my friend.

47:01.10
Tony Sisk
All right. Yeah, sure, you can borrow it.

47:04.65
Jaime G
Sweet.

47:05.52
Tony Sisk
Yep, that's the whole point.

47:09.02
Tony Sisk
All right, cool. Well, thanks for joining me tonight. And it's good to have you back on. And I can't wait for Marvel Rivals in December 6.

47:19.62
Jaime G
Yes.

47:22.40
Tony Sisk
All right, cool. I'll catch you later.

47:25.26
Jaime G
Talk to you soon, man.

47:26.52
Tony Sisk
Yep.