Looking Back On Marvel Rivals Season Zero

In our first episode of 2025, the Good2Game crew discuss all the fun we had in Season Zero.

Transcript

00:00.01
Sentfrmheaven
Going live in three, two, one.

00:12.66
Tony Sisk
What's up everybody? Welcome back to good to game radio. I'm your host Tony speaking. I'm back in the studio with my co-host Jaime and Vance. What's up guys?

00:22.71
+Jaime G 
and oh

00:22.78
Tony Sisk
What's going on?

00:24.39
+Jaime G 
It's good to be back.

00:24.80
Sentfrmheaven
What's up, what's up, what's up?

00:26.61
+Jaime G 
Merry Christmas. Happy New Year's.

00:29.50
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Right. You missed the whole holiday season in America. You were in where, where were you?

00:33.56
+Jaime G 
I did. I was in Mexico, man, right across the border from El Paso, Texas in Ciudad Juarez.

00:40.81
Tony Sisk
Okay, yeah going back to the roots, taking taking the the son to go visit his grandparents and stuff.

00:42.36
+Jaime G 
Yeah.

00:45.58
+Jaime G 
Yeah.

00:49.10
+Jaime G 
and i' and i brought And I'm bringing back my PlayStation 2 console and still the big blue box and the original packaging. It's kind of scuffed, but it's still I still have it.

01:00.93
Tony Sisk
Cool, and you just got back like two days ago, right?

01:04.09
+Jaime G 
I did. I did, man. This is like me still catching up to life.

01:10.26
Tony Sisk
Well, you were missed here.

01:10.54
Sentfrmheaven
Nice, nice, nice.

01:13.13
Tony Sisk
Vance, how about you? How was your holidays?

01:16.17
Sentfrmheaven
ah Pretty good, pretty good. Then I got sick, so I'm just just ah getting to the tail and know what. Yeah, I've been sick since Christmas, New Year's, all that good stuff.

01:28.73
Tony Sisk
Yeah, you and I are in the same boat because I like think 10 days I was sick. I didn't, I think i I didn't miss any work. It was late one morning though, because I was sick, but I made sure I showed up to work and get everybody else sick.

01:38.54
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, no.

01:44.45
Tony Sisk
So it's probably where you got it from.

01:47.52
Sentfrmheaven
and right right

01:52.53
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, man.

01:53.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So, uh, but, uh, unlike Jaime, I was able, since I was still at home to get plenty of gaming in and tonight we're talking Marvel rivals. So it dropped on December six, our previous episode, we were talking about our first impressions of the game, which were mostly positive. I think almost exclusively positive. And the game has been received really, really well from, uh, gamers 20 million.

02:22.42
Tony Sisk
people have played Marvel Rivals. So just a huge launch for NetEase in this game that, Jaime, you called, you know, nobody was talking about Marvel Rivals, but but for you, for half you know most of the the back half of 2024, you kept bringing it up and then it dropped on December 6th and everybody's like, what is this game?

02:39.94
+Jaime G 
I told you guys. Yep.

02:45.33
Tony Sisk
And it has just taken off, the numbers continue to climb. Unlike most games, they have a, pretty quick fall off after about two weeks. This game has just continued to stay strong and I think continues to grow. So ah congratulations to the developers for creating an addictive fun to play product based on the well-known Marvel IP, which is definitely a contributing factor, I think, to the success of the game because it's like everybody, I mean, who doesn't know these characters, right? There's no introduction to some weird

03:24.87
Tony Sisk
uh unknown lore or story or characters that nobody has seen before everybody has years of opportunity to have learned about these characters from from the entire mcu universe movies to comic books you know decades and decades of comic books uh stories and they're i'm sure that we're going to get a lot of uh content drawn from that history from this this IP. It's funny to me when of a lot of the criticism of the game that there was was that it was basically a clone of Overwatch to Overwatch that they copied Overwatch that they copied. You know, characters from Overwatch. What's the ah what's the sniper in Overwatch that looks like Black Widow?

04:13.09
+Jaime G 
um terrible some Widow? Something like that?

04:16.56
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I was a black widow. Yeah, it's black widow. And they were saying that Scarlett Scarlett, which scarlet witch was a copy of that. I'm like, OK.

04:26.63
Tony Sisk
She was around a lot for decades. They didn't copy anybody. and Did it play like it? OK, maybe they it plays. like I don't know. I didn't play that character in Overwatch. And frankly, Overwatch just to keep my attention unlike this game. So I know we've heard your opinions before, but quick. What what did you guys think from season zero, which is wrapping up this week? It was basically 30 plus days of the initial season, which they called season zero.

04:55.91
Tony Sisk
our introduction to the game.

04:56.19
+Jaime G 
it it Wait, today's the one month anniversary, actually.

05:00.07
Tony Sisk
Is it? Oh yeah, you're right, correct. The one month anniversary. So ah let me hear you guys' opinions again from what you've what you've played, what you think um of the of the game.

05:11.26
+Jaime G 
I'll go first. I am hooked on this game. I've already played this game and it's one month more than I have Overwatch 2 in its lifetime, okay? I mean, that just tells you like how much of my attention, dude.

05:26.94
+Jaime G 
I haven't caved in Black Ops 6. I'm playing this more than Black Ops. um you know I'm still so surprised that the matchmaking is pretty quick, pretty efficient. I'm liking the fact that you can play casual, you can get competitive and get into a little bit of more of a scoring type scenario. I mean, Vance, you were grinding this past weekend to be able to play competitively.

05:56.22
+Jaime G 
um So no, I mean, um so I'm still digging this. And before we get too far ahead, i I've liked what season zero brought to the table, just in terms of just like, let's launch this, let's try it out. And let's see if people are ah accepting this. So far, there was a big announcement, like very quick. I want to say maybe even two weeks ago that they had capped at, they had recorded 20 million Accounts that's that's massive for any game and it Right Right now But now I imagine I made this comment if they only get a dollar

06:30.16
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And they gave a, they gave a, a spray to everybody in their, in their game, uh, email boxes that you can claim. And I've seen maybe one person actually use the spray, but yeah it it says 20 million players.

06:54.70
+Jaime G 
per active account, even half, right? That's if you get $1 for, you know, half the that that number, that's $10 million dollars for something that you've already produced. Right. So I think this this is going to be a cash cow for NetEase and their partnership with marble.

07:17.03
+Jaime G 
I think this game ah has a bit of a long life ahead of it based on how they start introducing new game modes, new seasons, and of course new characters because that's what people want, right?

07:31.58
+Jaime G 
ah

07:32.04
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. So they've been, I mean, they've given given us a ton of content. There was a winter special that they dropped about two weeks in where you could earn like a extra skin for Jeff, Jeff, the shark skin and some sprays and stuff like that.

07:48.64
+Jaime G 
You're the only person I know who who played it.

07:50.02
Tony Sisk
And like a postcard.

07:51.85
+Jaime G 
Yeah.

07:52.11
Tony Sisk
Oh, I mean, yeah, I played it. I got that Jeff's the skin winter coat and the postcard. that you can, once you play enough, you earn enough, like these little gold stars and stuff, you can turn it in to get Christmas images, right? To put on the postcard. And then you can upgrade the images and then you can save the image and post it to TikTok. Now I did everything except for that posting to TikTok. That's just not something I'm like, oh, look everybody, here's my Marvel Rivals,

08:29.22
Tony Sisk
Jeff Christmas card. So I didn't do that, but I have that card completely decked out with everything with all the upgrades and everything.

08:35.26
Sentfrmheaven
miss Missed missed it opportunity You're muted you're muted you read it

08:37.74
Tony Sisk
So yeah, I definitely put the time. I have 73 hours in this game. 73 hours.

08:51.78
+Jaime G 
Oh, yeah, I thank you. I was just gonna say I was probably gonna be right ah right there ah up there with you had I not been. ah ah I stopped playing on December the 20th, and I just picked it up again yesterday.

09:04.44
+Jaime G 
Right? So I had a two week gap that I was like, I was kicking myself for not bringing the PS portal with me.

09:07.81
Tony Sisk
yeah yeah long climb ahead of you to catch up with me

09:12.15
Sentfrmheaven
long climb um so i started out playing and uh at first i was like okay all right it's cool i liked it but i just didn't understand it because i got like i never really got into overwatch too like i played with y'all handful of times but i was just like ah i just don't understand the ins and outs what's going on whatever like that but

09:12.40
+Jaime G 
Yeah.

09:13.37
Tony Sisk
that's what about you man

09:35.40
Sentfrmheaven
Now that I found my guy, you know what I'm saying? The game was definitely fun. What I really like about this game though was once you get into the competitive side of things, they really set the bar high with the skill gap. So it's like a lot of games you can kind of just get in there and everybody has fun and we are having fun, but I think the longevity of the game is going to be you're gonna start seeing tournaments stream as far as maybe on the Fortnite level of the game inside of things. But I definitely see it being super, super competitive, especially once you start introducing the new characters and things like that. So I love it. You know what I'm saying? I'm definitely going to enjoy and play it a whole lot more. I gotta climb that hill, man. I think 20's what level? What, 39, 38, something like that?

10:29.68
Tony Sisk
40, yeah.

10:30.35
+Jaime G 
at 39 yesterday.

10:30.97
Sentfrmheaven
oh oh boy oh oh forty now yeah

10:34.22
Tony Sisk
40, you know, short training is my one level now, okay.

10:38.94
Sentfrmheaven
who

10:39.14
Tony Sisk
Now what you're saying about the the high skill level. ah Now I've played Overwatch, I played Overwatch when it first dropped ah years ago and you know, have gone back to it occasionally.

10:51.89
Tony Sisk
ah ah I enjoyed the game, especially when it was new, when it first came out. But I can say that I never you know really got interested in like learning like all the characters and all the complexities of of the game or whatever.

10:58.82
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, oh, 40. Oh, oh, 40 now, yeah.

11:09.79
Tony Sisk
Unlike this game, where it's like, man, I want to learn every character. you know I've played every character except for, I think, three. Um, and I take some time, like, you know, every other day or every day to just go and learn a new character and practice with characters. I'm not very good with because I'm like, okay, I want to understand how these guys function and get into the mind and of that type of player when we're in a match, because that way I can understand what I'm going up against. Cause I mainly play Thor.

11:40.76
Tony Sisk
Though I have broadened that into Mantis and Doctor Strange and Aquaman, not Aquaman, but Namor.

11:49.86
+Jaime G 
Aquaman.

11:50.91
Tony Sisk
Aquaman, right? Wrong wrong comic. um

11:53.92
+Jaime G 
Yeah, same concept, though.

11:55.78
Tony Sisk
Yeah, same concept, same dude, basically. Uh, but not everybody's going to hate us now. There's not that same guy, but, uh, but those levels of complexities and there, there's so much complexity to the game, right?

12:05.26
+Jaime G 
The fanboys, man.

12:11.89
Tony Sisk
Like you really start to appreciate it when they're so, because there's so much nuance to yeah every situation, depending on the map, your team composition, the other team's composition.

12:25.03
Tony Sisk
how they're playing, you know it's like, okay, there's there's a way to respond to this. How am I going to respond to it? and like I really, really enjoyed just kind of digging into all those elements of trying to become a better player ah to to be to win, right?

12:44.43
Tony Sisk
Because it's like, oh, it stinks losing. I mean, we played yesterday. And man, we were having a great time when we were winning. But when we lost, it was like, eh.

12:53.61
+Jaime G 
I know, but but I gotta admit, okay, talking about this though, when we were playing and we were just playing casuals and we were all like, oh, we're just crushing this.

12:54.31
Sentfrmheaven
Oh man, this dragging

12:54.48
Tony Sisk
ah

13:05.01
+Jaime G 
Let's go competitive, right? and And I think we started off on the right foot, but there was that one matchup where you could just like fans was saying the skill gap that we went up against the whole team that that whole team was yeah really on point on everything that they needed to do. I mean, like if correct me, if I'm wrong, they just had to move the carriage like an inch and they won.

13:33.31
Sentfrmheaven
yeah yeah yeah

13:34.94
Tony Sisk
but Right. And that's, hey, that happens, right? Like you're going to, you're not going to dominate every game. You're not going to win every game. um But you get there's a level of satisfaction of least being competent and competitive, right?

13:52.34
+Jaime G 
Right.

13:52.34
Tony Sisk
And when you're not competitive, when the other team just rolls you like you weren't even in there, that's where, okay, let me take a step back here.

13:56.73
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah.

14:01.74
Tony Sisk
I'm like, what'd I do wrong? What'd my teammates do wrong?

14:03.61
Sentfrmheaven
right

14:04.92
Tony Sisk
I'm like, what'd we do wrong?

14:04.97
Sentfrmheaven
right

14:05.99
Tony Sisk
Like maybe I'm not that good at this game, whatever. It's kind of a humbling experience when they just row you.

14:14.61
Tony Sisk
But when you're on the other end, when you're rolling another team, man, it's like, man, that feels good.

14:14.68
Sentfrmheaven
right see

14:18.21
Sentfrmheaven
he right

14:21.66
+Jaime G 
Yeah I got this.

14:21.69
Sentfrmheaven
absolutely absolutely right see because I mean I mean like just what just what you're saying and and I mean like um I was talking to uh jq and I tore like Right. Right. Right. Right.

14:33.70
Sentfrmheaven
games no matter what the game is like like like if there's a uh online aspect of it like the games can be great if everybody understands the game and to like you know like uh you know like i'm gonna sing with the skill gap because we winning we winning there and it's like we stuck to maybe three main characters but then you see teammates somebody wants to be Hawkeye somebody then okay all right that didn't work out and then you might see somebody on the other team going crazy with Venom sweat so then somebody on our team okay well well well if he's doing this with Venom I can do the same thing so let me grab Venom so you might see one player switch out to four different players because they're trying to figure out you know what's going on but by that time like I said we're getting smacked because you're not playing your role on the team

15:15.90
Tony Sisk
Right. They're trying to adjust. Now, I mean, I don't remember from Overwatch was being able to switch out to a different character class, a thing in Overwatch.

15:30.17
Tony Sisk
Or once the game started, du you can switch to any character.

15:30.77
+Jaime G 
I think so. Yeah, I think so because yeah, because I think the game was was even actually actively telling you like, hey, you need a tank, you need a ah something like it would try to give you hints based on the composition of your team.

15:34.81
Sentfrmheaven
Yes, yes, because that was me at the beginning.

15:41.12
Tony Sisk
Mm-hmm.

15:48.00
+Jaime G 
ah even during the match. But but you know, something that did happen yesterday, I don't know if you guys remember the match, we were playing one match and I was playing duelist.

15:50.55
Tony Sisk
Okay.

15:58.45
+Jaime G 
Because honestly, somebody beat me to cloak and dagger. I was like, Oh, okay, I'll play Batman. Alright, so yeah.

16:04.99
Tony Sisk
Batman. You mean DC you're missing out.

16:09.57
Sentfrmheaven
I thought I could go back, man.

16:10.98
Tony Sisk
You could have had your own game. Look, we're, we're, we're accidentally dropping your characters in this game.

16:12.71
+Jaime G 
Yeah, i'll I'll play moon knight. um But anyway, remember that when you got to the point where I was just saying like, whoever's playing Cloak and Dagger is not playing this character right.

16:25.22
Sentfrmheaven
Yes.

16:25.30
+Jaime G 
And when that person swapped, I was like, OK, that's my turn to go and grab this character because you're right. If somebody just is playing competitive and they're using a character class and they're like not playing it right, you make it terrible for the whole entire team.

16:43.85
Tony Sisk
Right. I mean, and that, that, that is the, that's the aspect of playing a team based shooter, right? It's like, you're going to get, when you're solo queuing, uh, into these lobbies, you're just not, you don't know what you're going to get.

16:57.44
Tony Sisk
And then people are just locking in to a character as soon as they get in there.

17:02.01
+Jaime G 
Right.

17:02.40
Tony Sisk
her So like you're thinking you're going to play, Oh, I'm going to play Thor.

17:02.86
+Jaime G 
Right.

17:03.75
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

17:06.57
Tony Sisk
And by the time you load in. Somebody already has it locked and you can only have the one version of Thor. So it's like, okay, I got to play something else. And then you play something else and you discover that the person who's got Thor locked in.

17:22.23
Tony Sisk
is scared to use Thor. There was a game yesterday I played in, I don't know if it was with you guys. It might've been after you guys had gotten off. I played more and last night. There was a guy, it might've been early in the morning when we I was playing with you Vance. There was a, no, you were playing Thor. There was a Thor.

17:40.64
Tony Sisk
that was so scared.

17:40.66
+Jaime G 
Maybe you talk about Vance.

17:42.34
Tony Sisk
Maybe I was talking to Vance. There was a, no, I was not. Cause I went back and watched Vance's Thor gameplay. Vance is a super aggressive Thor, okay? There's no fear in Vance, all right?

17:54.82
Tony Sisk
ah This Thor was so scared to stick his, like to go into the middle, even when the timer's down to nothing, like, okay. what are you What are you hiding for now?

18:05.21
Tony Sisk
Just go. like You see like guys locking in the characters and they're like, they don't know how to play those characters. And it's it's like you look at the scoreboard and they have like one kill, two kills.

18:13.92
+Jaime G 
Right?

18:15.74
Sentfrmheaven
Right, yeah. Yeah.

18:18.74
Tony Sisk
I'm like, oh, come on. But what are you going to do?

18:21.43
Sentfrmheaven
yeah so

18:21.98
Tony Sisk
it's a it's a You could do like some people and just chew everybody out in the lobby and just make yourself look like a fool.

18:26.59
+Jaime G 
Dude, more than once yesterday, we thought we were playing and we're like, do we even have a healer in our team? Because because where was that person?

18:34.00
Sentfrmheaven
man man look let me tell you something anybody who finds this podcast this episode who has not played marvel you need a healer like i was in here working people i've been with thor and i'm like man why is this person not dying and little do i know just like tony said oh man they got this healer and this healer is just healing them up and look if you got a good healer like hyme Great healer.

19:00.99
Sentfrmheaven
Like Jaime's like, hey, I got you. I could stand in here and go toe to toe with six of them if Jaime's up there healing. And I'm like, man, this is great. You know, and and I'm like, man, but that one game we didn't have a healer.

19:11.96
Sentfrmheaven
Man, my little 600 held those two, two, two, two.

19:15.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I will say I have been in in in teams where we did not have a healer and we won or we did not have a tank and we won multiple times.

19:15.92
Sentfrmheaven
Like, yeah.

19:27.82
Tony Sisk
That wasn't just a one up. um So you could win without those things. It's just very hard when the other team is decent. Right. Um, but that kind of brings the question. One of the things that, uh, was brought up this season was the need for a role queue, which is, I think it's something they have in overwatch where, uh, like, I don't know how it works. Like.

19:55.75
Tony Sisk
There's a spot reserved for somebody who's going to play strategist or tank right on the team. Uh, so I don't know how it works, but that question came up. Does Marvel's need that? I don't think it does because ah I do like the fact that you can just go in with any team composition and maybe you can win with that composition. Like I've been on teams where there were four tanks, you know, and.

20:24.55
Tony Sisk
two healers and boy, you talk about the times I've been on that, have they've actually rolled the other team. I don't, honest I don't understand. I'm like, why haven't more teams played more tanks?

20:35.56
Tony Sisk
Because it's like, most of those guys have like 800 health or or shields or whatever to bring up.

20:39.64
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right.

20:40.07
+Jaime G 
or have or have ways to kind of like bring up their health like venom does.

20:45.15
Tony Sisk
So it's like, man, I would think the concept of just having more tanks would work out.

20:45.33
+Jaime G 
Yeah.

20:46.06
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Yes, he.

20:49.12
Tony Sisk
But you know, there are some dualists out there that can headshot you and like, one shot or two shots and take you down. So you got to have ways of dealing with those like, uh, Hawkeye and hella.

21:02.83
Tony Sisk
But yeah, there's, ah there's so much variety in the 33 characters, the game dropped with 33 characters.

21:04.28
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

21:09.05
Tony Sisk
So so much experimentation, so much going on.

21:10.53
+Jaime G 
Yeah, and and see, that you're right about that. The number of characters and how I don't particularly think that there's two characters that play exactly the same, right? yeah and And I know because I've been playing a lot of strategist, and I started with Luna Snow at first, and then I was like, OK, I like this character, but is there another strategist that can kind of do something different for me? And I found my spot, right?

21:39.14
+Jaime G 
But when you go up against, let's say, ah a Punisher, and or a Bucky, they're like very different characters. And they have, you have to like play around, like what you were saying, you have to know that the the characters to understand, okay, this character is going to try to do this.

21:56.58
+Jaime G 
Punisher is going to try to find a good spot to lay down the turret, etc.

22:00.90
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

22:01.02
+Jaime G 
So there's an I

22:01.82
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Is that in the head? Go ahead.

22:05.20
+Jaime G 
I was going to say, I hope they keep on going this route and they don't just give us, you know, skin changes for characters that at that point I'm going to be like, Oh no.

22:15.39
Sentfrmheaven
Right she could so so to your um to debate what you were talking about tony with the uh Role queue so they were talking about that on 2k i was playing 2k and like like like said like marvel riles has took away like a lot of Players from 2k cod and different things like that. So you have these conversations that are going on, you know other games, but I think competitively um because like like a 2K, they do it. So you have certain badges and certain things that you use, but when it comes to like the world stage, it comes to like the big money tournaments, like there's certain things you can't use, there's certain things you can't do. Cause like cheese is like a exploit in the game that we know exists. So we're not going to let that happen. But as

23:02.70
Sentfrmheaven
Like I can definitely see the role queue coming in to competitive play because now it is really separate, rate you know, like the boys from the men, you know, like, like, like, you know, oil and water is like now once you come in, now you have to have that tank. You have to have that healer and it forces people to play.

23:20.77
Sentfrmheaven
different characters which now opens up your game and that's what you want because the more characters that i can learn at 33 the more i'm gonna play your game because now i can i can really have fun with it you know because right now i'm just trying to lock in on you know thor just to be good with thor then i'm gonna venture out on other players but um but yeah i i definitely can see the role queue coming into the competitive side of things

23:44.92
Tony Sisk
Okay, so ah yeah, I wanna talk about the competitive play. um Obviously say we did some competitive play yesterday and it's got its tier system.

23:54.30
Sentfrmheaven
was it though yeah

23:56.34
Tony Sisk
I mean, yeah, for a little bit.

23:59.51
Sentfrmheaven
a little bit

23:59.58
Tony Sisk
so yeah It's got its tier system and you know starting from bron level three bronze and it goes up to whatever it is.

24:00.14
+Jaime G 
A little bit.

24:06.94
Tony Sisk
It's like there's 12 different, I'm just making out a number. it's There's a bunch of different levels. But ah but at diamond, I think it's above diamond level um there. The game changes. There's a there's an element to the to the.

00:02.20
Jaime G 
It's that technology, man, what can I say?

00:02.13
Tony Sisk
OK. Freaking tech. ah We back live.

00:10.55
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, we're back alone. We're back alone.

00:13.86
Tony Sisk
OK, so what I was saying was so above Diamond, the game plays differently because there is a banning of characters.

00:25.28
Tony Sisk
I think each team gets to I'm not quite sure on the rules, but pretty sure that each team gets to ban to two characters.

00:28.35
Sentfrmheaven
and

00:33.01
Tony Sisk
Um.

00:34.85
Jaime G 
I think you're right, because one of the most banned characters I was reading was Bucky.

00:35.16
Tony Sisk
Good.

00:43.07
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I don't know.

00:43.75
Sentfrmheaven
I can see that.

00:46.24
Jaime G 
Yeah, because you know that he can use his super like one like one time after another.

00:45.89
Tony Sisk
I think the.

00:52.36
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but um but I know that Hawkeye is banned. Hella is banned.

00:59.28
Sentfrmheaven
Sheesh.

00:59.90
Tony Sisk
Luna is banned a lot.

01:03.10
Jaime G 
Hot guy isn't that bad.

01:06.29
Tony Sisk
Well, you haven't played against guys that are playing Hawkeye at that level.

01:10.97
Jaime G 
Okay, we're looking.

01:13.19
Sentfrmheaven
yeah we Yeah, because you figure Hawkeye, I mean, like, he can sit back and, like, unlimited ah arrows and be nice with the accuracy. Because, I mean, like, it was one time I was trying to hit Iron Man flying around.

01:23.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah. he

01:26.73
Sentfrmheaven
I couldn't even touch him. I'm like, man. But then, like he said, you got a Hawkeye that kill you, and you look at the kill cam, and he 200 yards back, sniping, whatever.

01:36.48
Tony Sisk
Yeah, his he can his his heing one shot any of the low health characters. And, you know, so um that impacts if he's going for your healers and stuff. So so the game plays differently at. At the diamond level and above. Competitive mode.

02:06.11
Jaime G 
Once you get good.

02:08.18
Tony Sisk
Yeah, once you get good, and that's the thing, ah getting up there in rank is difficult, especially when you're in the lower tiers, because if again, I play solo most of the time.

02:17.76
Jaime G 
Mm hmm.

02:20.96
Tony Sisk
Yesterday was a very unusual day where we were actually able to play together. And um so most of the time I'm playing by myself and That's random lobbies, random skill levels, random just people just doing crazy things.

02:37.98
Jaime G 
To the right, right.

02:41.24
Tony Sisk
you know So it's like, you you're you're thrown you're having to deal with a lot of ah hurdles, really. And I guess if you're a really good player, then you can overcome of those and carry of your team to to victories, but it's still a long climb.

02:58.88
Tony Sisk
And I'm like, I've gotten the silver one. No, silver two. uh which is that's where i'm at right now i think i was at silver two this morning and um so one more silver one and then gold and then gold you get the moon night skin is if you can get the gold

03:07.74
Jaime G 
Two or three. Yeah.

03:24.13
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, ah one of the girls, I was playing 2K, but yeah, she like ah she was building the team um to get the goal. I couldn't play, because at the time, I think I was level six or seven. So I was like, man, I said so i can't even play with Tony, because he's a he's you know past level 10. So that's what made me really want to grind so I can start giving to competitive side of things. But she was like, she said it like what silver three for a long time of before she getting like she didn't get the gold until she built that team and I was like, okay, okay.

03:56.78
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I mean, I can see definitely having team helps. I know one of my, my daughter's friends, he came over the other night for her birthday and he was like, Mr. Tony, guess what?

04:07.00
Tony Sisk
I'm like, what?

04:07.65
Jaime G 
mr toe

04:07.64
Tony Sisk
He's like, Mr. Tony. I got gold on Marvel Rivals. I'm like, you lucky dog.

04:17.12
Sentfrmheaven
Man, and he's not on the team?

04:17.60
Tony Sisk
I'm like, how'd you? Yeah, I'm like, who'd you get gold with? And he's like, oh, me and two other guys teamed up and we played all day and we finally got it. I'm like, where's my team in Mexico?

04:30.07
Sentfrmheaven
Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, we need invite.

04:31.17
Jaime G 
Mr. Tony.

04:34.31
Tony Sisk
yeah

04:39.70
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. I'm like, I didn't get it in a bite.

04:45.37
Tony Sisk
yeah

04:47.43
Sentfrmheaven
And then, and then Pancho, my eyes, my eyes is blurry. I'm tired.

04:51.36
Tony Sisk
Oh my goodness.

04:53.19
Sentfrmheaven
I'm tired.

04:53.26
Tony Sisk
The TV's watching me.

04:57.96
Tony Sisk
Pancho, if you're watching, we'll have you, but come on.

04:59.47
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

05:00.01
Jaime G 
Oh man.

05:00.71
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Yeah.

05:01.56
Jaime G 
Oh, you went there, man.

05:02.61
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

05:05.82
Sentfrmheaven
Like, Hey, use the force. All right. Luke didn't have no, uh, a little target finder. You don't say.

05:10.63
Tony Sisk
who

05:11.69
Sentfrmheaven
Hey.

05:13.55
Tony Sisk
Luke, you turn your computer off. My eyes.

05:16.72
Sentfrmheaven
Thanks.

05:16.82
Tony Sisk
oh

05:19.67
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, the Death Star is watching me.

05:27.76
Jaime G 
no but hey that would have been fun if we would have gotten poncho and jayron in there man that would have been five right there

05:27.49
Tony Sisk
ah So anyway, I had to.

05:34.97
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Oh, here's one of the cool aspects of the game is there's so many like little hidden menu features and stuff you can do. Uh, I showed Vance yesterday, the target, uh, the practice range had never been in there.

05:48.28
Tony Sisk
So, uh, you can go into practice range and try all the characters and set up parameters, uh, with moving targets and all kinds of stuff in there.

05:59.85
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, yeah.

05:59.76
Tony Sisk
Um,

06:01.01
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, yeah.

06:01.75
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So that's great. Uh, but one of the features is like, you can click on somebody's name and you can spectate them. You know, I don't know if they know you're spectating them. ah I don't think so because man said he was spectating to me and I had no clue that he was doing that.

06:14.96
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Yeah.

06:16.87
Tony Sisk
So you can say, Oh, let me see how good my, see how good my buddy is.

06:17.34
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. I was expecting.

06:19.87
Tony Sisk
You know, go watch him and watch him play. So oh you need to always be on your toes. You might have somebody spectating you. know

06:27.43
Sentfrmheaven
Yep, yep, yep, I had ah had a little burrito I was eating.

06:28.47
Jaime G 
I didn't know you could do that, actually.

06:30.97
Sentfrmheaven
I was sitting back watching Tony, you like, okay.

06:30.83
Tony Sisk
Yep. You could go back and watch other people's replays.

06:35.79
Jaime G 
What?

06:36.17
Sentfrmheaven
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

06:36.54
Tony Sisk
Yep.

06:39.23
Sentfrmheaven
And it's funny because what Tony did with me with Thor, he took me into the practice facility, never been there, showed me a whole lot of things. And it's like, um that's like a underrated talent.

06:52.78
Sentfrmheaven
Like, because there's people like, like and Like I don't know if y'all ever like, you know, like looked it up and stuff like that But there's people that do that for cod It's like they'll help you build a class but then they'll they'll go in with you like a private lobby and they'll Show you strategic sense show you how to move and stuff like that.

07:09.25
Sentfrmheaven
But like they charge you for that Yeah

07:11.34
Jaime G 
Yeah.

07:13.59
Jaime G 
Tony, there you how much did you charge?

07:13.29
Tony Sisk
Yeah, Vance applied. I didn't apply anything. He was free a charge of But he he's as a good student and as a good student, Vance showed that he was coachable.

07:21.54
Jaime G 
There was only one thing, though.

07:26.57
Tony Sisk
He was coachable.

07:26.99
Sentfrmheaven
culture war.

07:27.29
Tony Sisk
Not only did he quickly catch on to those little bits of information I was giving him, he took them into the into the games and immediately applied it.

07:27.79
Jaime G 
there

07:37.80
Tony Sisk
And out.

07:38.17
Jaime G 
But there was one thing.

07:39.98
Tony Sisk
Go ahead.

07:40.70
Jaime G 
There was one thing, man, that was we were we we were in one batch. And I was the only player that was on the objective, you know, getting like our percentage gauge filled up.

07:52.34
Jaime G 
And I see Vance like right here, like hiding around the corner, just waiting for the guys to come out. I mean, he was and I'm like, Vance, you need to come over here.

07:57.88
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

08:01.32
Jaime G 
He's like, no, man. Tony told me this is where you grab him.

08:03.42
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, Tony said stand right here so when they come around, smack him, right.

08:03.92
Tony Sisk
Yep. I know exactly what you're talking about. Throne room. Do not stand in the center of the capture point. Stand over there by the wall.

08:15.09
Tony Sisk
That way they can't shoot you.

08:17.21
Jaime G 
But get near the capture point so we can score, man.

08:17.14
Tony Sisk
They don't have free shooting at you. But you don't have to stand on the capture point. Once you capture it, it's yours.

08:24.76
Jaime G 
Oh, okay, okay.

08:25.72
Tony Sisk
It will continue to go up. So you don't have to stand on that point. You don't have to make yourself a target. You can stand.

08:31.30
Sentfrmheaven
Aye, aye.

08:31.50
Tony Sisk
Let let the other people stand on the point.

08:32.73
Sentfrmheaven
Yes, sis, aye.

08:34.56
Tony Sisk
You go stand back. Because Thor doesn't have a shield. Thor is a big target. He want to preserve that health as much as possible. So you you stand where you can't be seen.

08:46.87
Tony Sisk
And then when they come out, you hit them in the head with that big hammer. I'm telling you, dude, I know there's no stun effect.

08:51.11
Jaime G 
and him in there.

08:52.91
Sentfrmheaven
Hit man.

08:53.70
Tony Sisk
I'm like, there's no physical stun effect, but there is an element to the game that like, there's no feedback. Like when you get hit, there's no, like my, my controller doesn't shake, you know, or, or anything like that.

09:03.87
Jaime G 
Yeah.

09:09.24
Tony Sisk
You just gotta to be paying attention to your health bar.

09:13.13
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

09:13.39
Tony Sisk
And so. When you hit somebody, especially with Thor, when you hit somebody and drive them back 20 feet and into a wall, whatever. When you run a receiving into that, there's like this, this orientation effect in real life to you because like, okay, why is my screen different?

09:31.62
Sentfrmheaven
right

09:31.96
Tony Sisk
Because I'm like, like, cause I saw seeing this and now I'm looking at a wall.

09:32.50
Jaime G 
Yeah.

09:37.56
Tony Sisk
Why, why, how did this happen? Meanwhile, Thor's banging on the back of the head with the hammer and finishing you off like, You know, yeah, it's, it's weird. Like there is no feedback and when you're receiving damage.

09:51.26
Jaime G 
Right.

09:51.28
Tony Sisk
So you have to be very alert to what's going, what's happening to your character.

09:57.91
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

09:58.86
Tony Sisk
So to, to lower the odds of you not knowing what's going on, don't put you in the self in a position where you're going to get ambushed.

10:06.80
Sentfrmheaven
today

10:08.47
Jaime G 
Yeah. No, but he was like, he was like right there in the corner, man. I mean, and I'm like, yo, Vance, come over here, man.

10:12.81
Tony Sisk
ah

10:15.27
Jaime G 
He's like, no, no, no, Tony told me not to.

10:15.73
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

10:18.75
Tony Sisk
ah That's right.

10:19.13
Sentfrmheaven
hey it yeah

10:20.29
Tony Sisk
Coachable.

10:21.72
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, so so and and like it's funny because ah you know That's what Tony told me to do it like as far as like, you know with the hammer on you know fly off the hammer It's a you know, you find somebody a fly me to the wall break him down with him like that and it's so funny because When you are fighting Thor and you're on the receiving internet and you know that your pennies the wall Like you said you get this oriented.

10:21.77
Tony Sisk
Coachable.

10:43.73
Sentfrmheaven
You're just trying to jump run get out of there, you know, but it's like it's funny, but that's

10:44.05
Jaime G 
Oh, yeah.

10:48.75
Sentfrmheaven
one of the strategies the Thor is like you find a way to maneuver find their healer flying with the hammer gets the wall beat a healer up or whatever like that and You know, you just try to get in there, you know and wreak havoc Yeah three

11:01.35
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And the war, even though I think he's a and Thor, even though he's a level ah like level three star character, I can't remember the exact complexity of him, but he's actually complex, ah trying to get your mind wrapped around how his abilities work in conjunction.

11:02.48
Jaime G 
Well, you you brought the hammer down yesterday, man.

11:23.66
Tony Sisk
Like, and I think that's a lot that's very true with a lot of the characters, like there's combos and um Like setting the combo up in a given situation, like understanding how that all works together.

11:39.57
Tony Sisk
That's really like learning your character and it just takes time with that character, you know, so it's like.

11:42.25
Jaime G 
Right.

11:49.96
Tony Sisk
That's why it's it's such a complex game. The skill level is so high because it's like, oh man, there's so much to learn. And the team up abilities is another factor. So that's the whole no other element.

12:00.81
Tony Sisk
I know Overwatch doesn't have this. The team up abilities, like the Incredible Hulk, the Incredible Hulk, is ah he's

12:03.94
Jaime G 
Yeah.

12:10.00
Tony Sisk
The debate on the Incredible Hulk on how good he is, you know, is, is dependent a lot on who else is in the party. And, uh, if Dr. Strange or Iron Man is in the party, um, like their team of abilities just make work so well together that, um, that makes them all better. Like, so Iron Man, for example, if there's a Hulk in the party,

12:36.49
Jaime G 
Oh, he gets overpowered, man.

12:37.07
Tony Sisk
ah He gets gamma powered or whatever and he would just hold down that chest laser of his and Just will burn through the whole team and it's like does this ever end it never ends because freaking Hulk is in the party like same thing with

12:40.08
Jaime G 
Yeah.

12:45.29
Sentfrmheaven
do

12:47.50
Jaime G 
Oh yeah.

12:48.48
Sentfrmheaven
Oh my god. Man. Man don't even mention Iron Man. yeah

12:56.91
Tony Sisk
Dr. Strange, he he gets the gamma um ah increase, too. So when he he has an ability, I don' i don't don't think either one of you guys have played very much. Dr. Strange, if if at all.

13:07.26
Sentfrmheaven
Not at all.

13:08.71
Jaime G 
A little bit.

13:08.59
Tony Sisk
So Dr. Strange, he seems like a very defensive, passive vanguard where he just puts the shield up and and acts as the blocker.

13:16.07
Jaime G 
and That's all there is to him just.

13:17.88
Tony Sisk
Oh, no, dude. So ah the shields can absorb a certain amount of damage it and goes away and it has to reset.

13:25.99
Jaime G 
Uh huh.

13:26.36
Tony Sisk
um So when when he drops a shield, either um um on purpose or unintentionally, he'll usually follow that up with a ranged attack. He can do with his hands where he just throws a like a projectile attack.

13:41.96
Tony Sisk
ah So when he does that, he builds up a meter in his on his like damage bar, whatever it's called.

13:49.10
Jaime G 
has damage or something. Yeah.

13:51.86
Tony Sisk
right So once he's gotten the three two or three hits with it, uh he can write he can write shoulder button and he'll do an air of effect explosion right so if you're a ah character that's low on health anywhere around him that's mass aoe he can take out two or three people with that explosion so when the hulk is in his party that powers that up to be even more powerful.

14:23.41
Tony Sisk
So, ah yeah, I mean, I see, I see Dr. Strange, the character players are setting a lobby getting 30 plus kills with Dr. Strange, you know, and they are dude, because they know how to, to combo those.

14:33.64
Jaime G 
i don't I just don't see it, man.

14:37.03
Sentfrmheaven
hey ah he said ah he said name more i don't know tony's like

14:43.38
Jaime G 
Oh, dude.

14:43.53
Sentfrmheaven
um go get kids with me more hey sir he called

14:45.06
Tony Sisk
ah you were afraid to see yeah

14:46.64
Sentfrmheaven
yeah you c a a don't make him do it with dr strange too don't make him do it

14:50.91
Tony Sisk
Don't make me, yeah, don't make me, don't bring, don't make me play Dr.

14:53.04
Sentfrmheaven
umt make him do it

14:53.95
Tony Sisk
Strange. ah The funny thing about that with Namor is like, yo, you're like, oh, he's not very good or whatever.

15:02.62
Sentfrmheaven
Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye.

15:03.35
Tony Sisk
He's very hard to optimize because if you kill his turrets, that really hurts him, right?

15:08.21
Jaime G 
Right?

15:13.50
Tony Sisk
I mean, that really limits what he can do. ah So a lot of learning Namor is just learning where to put the turrets. And obviously you want to go high.

15:28.93
Tony Sisk
But if you put them high, like say you're staying in an alleyway and you're in your back defending the alleyway and you have the wall outline of the of the exit way, right? You would put the turrets up on the wall that way when they come through to shoot them in the back, right?

15:48.46
Tony Sisk
That theoretically is ah the best place to deploy them. However, when you throw a turret, they're only up for like 10 seconds. So if nobody comes through, the turret goes away. And then you have to wait on the cooldown to get a new turret.

16:07.40
Tony Sisk
So you have to guess when the guys are going to come through a lot of the time. So putting them up against that wall is not always an option. Sometimes it is, but it's not always an option. So you just gotta have to learn like when the best time. But here's the team up ability that hat that played out in that game.

16:27.54
Tony Sisk
where I had to 30 something kills with him. and And you probably weren't aware of this team of ability happening was Luna was one of our healers. So when Luna is in a team with Neymar, she powers him up by giving him an additional turret that shoots ice.

16:48.85
Tony Sisk
So you get a instead of two turrets, you get three turrets and one shooting ice. I guess it maybe has a freezing effect. but ah So it's easier to keep up two turrets on a rotation at least. And if there's a pause and a fight, you can get three up. And three turrets can kill a tank in quick order.

17:12.17
Tony Sisk
so Yeah. Situational. Yes. Knowing where to place the turns. Yes. Team ability. Yes. All things that have to come into play and just were perfect in that when that one match that we played.

17:26.57
Jaime G 
and Dude, no wonder because I guess people don't know the context but I was just bashing like all name were Aquaman sucks And Tony's like challenge accepted ends up getting MVP I'm gonna tell you this

17:39.34
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think uh, once I learned Thor man, I don't know man Wolverine He's always been like, you know, my favorite favorite superhero behind Batman, but yeah

17:40.37
Tony Sisk
ah

17:55.11
Jaime G 
if if If you're playing rivals and you end up walking into an alley and you see in the opposite end of that alley, Iron Fist, dude, you better run.

18:08.41
Jaime G 
He can take you down like, oh, I hate that character, dude. I've seen videos on YouTube of people like flying and reaching Iron Man with Iron Fist. I'm like, what?

18:19.30
Tony Sisk
Yeah, three jumps so you can get up there.

18:21.49
Jaime G 
Yeah. No, no, it's not, just it's four jumps and I think he's got like this little homing kick.

18:28.35
Tony Sisk
That spinning kick.

18:29.17
Jaime G 
ah So he closes. Yeah. Oh man. Run, run for my hard fist.

18:33.11
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

18:33.50
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, you talk about, you talk about the martial arts character.

18:33.60
Tony Sisk
I think.

18:38.37
Jaime G 
Oh yeah.

18:39.32
Sentfrmheaven
Man, that dude there, like, yeah, he was, I'm like, man, ain't so fast too. I'm like, man, I thought Spider-Man was fast, like, sheesh. Like, but the reason why I said, man, don't even mention Iron Man, one match, like, so let's say, like, you know, you have a mile, right?

18:47.99
Jaime G 
Yeah.

18:56.52
Sentfrmheaven
We got, let's say three quarters of a mile, whatever. The objective is all the way at the end of the mile. Me, Iron Man, and ah the girl that can turn it to the mall, we're all fighting at the beginning of the mile. like they're not They're not even doing the objective. It's like, I'm over here fighting her, but I can hear Iron Man flying around. And he's throwing his rock and saying, I'm literally running in a circle. So he thinks he he's going to stop. And you know I'm running to him. But he didn't know that I charged up my ah

19:28.13
Sentfrmheaven
my Thor Force. So I hit square and I start hitting with the lightning bolts and he's he's running. He's running. I'm like, yo, and I'm like, yeah, this dude's not dying. I'm like, hell. Like I'm getting dope.

19:41.23
Sentfrmheaven
I'm so mad, man.

19:41.37
Jaime G 
I know, man.

19:43.30
Sentfrmheaven
oh why you like oh I Like, why are you over here? It was terrible. I couldn't believe it. I put up a good fight for like a good minute.

19:52.32
Jaime G 
yeah

19:52.60
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

19:56.43
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. It's like um like almost every character of the game, except for maybe a couple can dominate a a game, right?

20:05.78
Jaime G 
ah yeah man

20:07.03
Tony Sisk
it's It's great. Like everybody is overpowered based on the situation and what's going on in in that particular match.

20:13.84
Jaime G 
Penny Parker dude if you're trying to just deny a zone and you get there in front of like two seconds before the other team She just laid down the web and the mines and oh dude.

20:26.81
Jaime G 
It's super hard to get through all that I've walked into the web and died instantly I

20:31.27
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, look, y'all have to tune in. Yeah. Hey, look, y'all have to tune into when we play. Cause we was playing with the Penny Parker all three of us. And I think you and Tony was like, who threw the web way out here? Like it's in the dumb spot.

20:47.97
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

20:48.22
Jaime G 
It's like it's like, dude, you'd be walking like in odd places of the map and it's like, oh, a bunch of webbing is like why in the world this is like on our side of our spawn.

20:48.70
Sentfrmheaven
i

20:56.29
Sentfrmheaven
right It was on our side, yeah, yeah.

20:59.24
Jaime G 
yeah

21:00.08
Sentfrmheaven
if It was on our side like, oh man, like, get this, sir, no purpose. They ain't do nothing just out there. i like you I was laughing. I was like, yeah, like, what's wrong with this web out here?

21:10.50
Sentfrmheaven
Like, it's crazy. That was funny.

21:12.15
Jaime G 
I know, man, I know I know the game.

21:15.75
Tony Sisk
that Yeah, so. Yeah, I mean, the game is a ton of fun. There's so much to learn. And we could probably just keep going on and on about, you know, elements of characters and stuff. So favorite character. What's your favorite character?

21:35.32
Jaime G 
called Kolk and Daggerman Strategist. that's that's That's my jam right there.

21:41.12
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm, Vance.

21:42.55
Sentfrmheaven
ah So far my favorite character that I would like to get good with is um Black Widow because I'm a sniper at heart, but ah my best character right now is Thor. Like Thor by far is a lot of fun, a lot of action, you know what it's like.

22:00.41
Sentfrmheaven
Jaime was like, what are you doing? like like So I was waiting for my Thor Force to come up. He's like, man, you gotta get in the fight, man.

22:05.46
Jaime G 
Yeah.

22:06.82
Sentfrmheaven
What are you doing? I'm sitting there behind the wall, and Jaime's like, come on, you gotta get in the fight. a I'm waiting on this Thor Force to get up real quick.

22:13.08
Jaime G 
At one point, I remember telling you, dude, just go in there and and you'll be fine, man. You won't die.

22:20.56
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

22:23.06
Sentfrmheaven
And I was like, okay, you sure?

22:24.43
Tony Sisk
yeah

22:25.09
Sentfrmheaven
And sure enough, he's healing me. I'm like, all right, all right.

22:28.09
Tony Sisk
Yeah My favorite character, I mean probably still Thor Just because I mean he's got a decent ultimate he's he's Can do serious damage, you know with his lightning ability and then he can meet he can fight it out with you know, the big vanguards so he can stand his ground and protect the point, you know, he can control a point to just in a different way than from like Penny Parker.

23:00.88
Tony Sisk
um So who do you think are the most overpowered characters are for the season?

23:14.00
Jaime G 
I don't know if this is more overpowered, but one of the most annoying characters that I i struggled with so much has been Iron Man, definitely.

23:24.64
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna see a yeah iron man iron man for sure Right Right

23:24.87
Jaime G 
eight

23:30.37
Tony Sisk
Yeah, because he's sitting just up in the air and unless you have people that are taking shots at him with whatever capable ability they have to do that.

23:33.20
Jaime G 
Right.

23:38.53
Jaime G 
What somebody like, like Black Widow right there, like perfect, perfect combo for a kiss and Iron Man. But if you're playing like a Hulk, dude, no way.

23:50.28
Jaime G 
You're not you're not bringing Iron Man down.

23:55.89
Jaime G 
I don't know.

23:55.65
Tony Sisk
Yeah, he can he can he can take over can take over a game on his little perch up there.

23:56.25
Jaime G 
I think

24:00.02
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

24:00.14
Jaime G 
I think Iron Man has been very dominant in a lot of the matches that I've played because it forces my team to have to swap out characters just to play against him.

24:05.79
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah.

24:13.83
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right, right. And it's and I think one of the most like, uh, gems of a strategy is, uh, Is um because one match we was like dominating the team and it was like Tom's like hey They're gonna make a push and showing off they did I think everybody came with their ultra smack this off the spot and it was like she was fighting uphill just to get it back and I was like like Well, yeah Penny once she gets her her her super iron man iron fist Somebody that knows what they're doing with Wolverine like he's just

24:53.09
Sentfrmheaven
Like a little Tasmanian devil in there.

24:57.56
Tony Sisk
um My pick for probably the character that wins the most matches for the other team is probably Luna Snow.

25:12.45
Tony Sisk
Luna Snow probably wins wins the most games because she has her ultimate that heals her entire team, makes her and almost invulnerable, and it lasts for 12 seconds.

25:13.90
Jaime G 
Interesting.

25:23.62
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

25:25.83
Tony Sisk
And she can earn it very quickly.

25:30.94
Tony Sisk
And so you're guaranteed to see it probably a minimum two times in a match. And on a point, a match that you're trying for control point or at the very end of the convoy or at the checkpoint of the convoy, you're going to see her roll out that ultimate. And it's basically a win at that point for that at that point. Not I'm not saying that the game is lost because she's using it you know at a checkpoint or something like that. But if it's at the very end of the timer,

26:05.65
Tony Sisk
and she throws it out there the match is lost like almost guaranteed unless you have something that can counter it and the only thing really that's reliable that encountering Luna is Luna so you have to have your own Luna or maybe a mantis that maybe

26:25.95
Jaime G 
question what's what's the difference between the super and luna or mantis because i thought mantis does kind of like something very similar

26:33.45
Tony Sisk
So Luna's ultimate, uh, she starts dancing. Uh, and she has a huge, it's a huge radius that kind of lights up the dance floor basically.

26:46.62
Tony Sisk
Uh, and she can move that around right on her skates and she has the ability to toggle between heal the team or give the team.

26:54.92
Jaime G 
or great or give a buff, right?

26:56.61
Tony Sisk
a damage boost for the team. And she can go back and forth right on that toggle.

27:00.74
Jaime G 
ah

27:02.04
Tony Sisk
And it lasts 12 seconds. Mantis's ultimate is a healing buff. ah with a little bit of a like bonus health, I think, um for the team, but it only lasts six seconds.

27:16.72
Tony Sisk
so And it doesn't quite make her as invulnerable as like Luna. Luna, in her ultimate, is almost impossible to kill.

27:27.79
Tony Sisk
like you um like Near impossible.

27:29.77
Jaime G 
Okay, okay.

27:30.74
Tony Sisk
Where Mantis, ah you can take down in her ultimate. so But the nice thing, I like playing Mantis because Mantis has a crowd controllability sleep that she can throw.

27:44.45
Jaime G 
The sleeper thing, yeah, yeah.

27:46.17
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that is pretty reliable. So ah she can actually be very aggressive in charging up and putting people to sleep right as they're trying to get away or they're trying to push.

28:02.88
Tony Sisk
And they're at kind of like mid health or whatever, and you can finish them off before they wake up. So I like her CC ability with the sleep.

28:14.13
Tony Sisk
Luna has the same thing, but ah hers is a freeze ability. And she does like a hand motion first, like a slower hand motion, hand motion before she fires it off.

28:22.95
Jaime G 
Right?

28:25.79
Tony Sisk
And it's not as reliable. Uh, target wise, like I can't hit anybody unless you're standing still, uh, with that, uh, freeze effect.

28:36.06
Tony Sisk
So, but that freeze effect blacks for like two or three seconds. So, um, it can be very effective as she gets it off. But, you know, I think Luna is still probably the better character because she's.

28:50.28
Tony Sisk
She can heal and deal damage in the same attack where Mantis has to has a separate heal over time ability. She casts. Which is a different motion than her attack, which her attacks are very powerful at range.

29:04.74
Jaime G 
Right.

29:08.02
Tony Sisk
So yeah so there's so many like give and goes with the characters. So. You know, that's what's great about it's like, oh, man, what do I want to do here?

29:19.67
Tony Sisk
you know Or what do we need to do here?

29:22.38
Jaime G 
Right. right

29:23.08
Tony Sisk
So I think that's really that's there's a lot of thought. ah like They only give you 30 seconds in the lobby to figure out, like oh, what do we want to do you know when you're in quick play match?

29:26.77
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

29:34.52
Tony Sisk
ah You only have 30 seconds to figure it out.

29:35.05
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right.

29:36.60
Tony Sisk
so But then you have the rest of the game to kind of like switch out and and and adjust on the fly, whatever which is great. but Sometimes there's just there is no answers for a great player.

29:50.56
Jaime G 
ah Yeah, right.

29:52.20
Sentfrmheaven
right right

29:52.98
Jaime G 
That's what people say when when they see me playing.

29:55.89
Tony Sisk
Yeah. All right.

29:58.23
Sentfrmheaven
I believe.

29:58.03
Tony Sisk
So. ah Going into the future, we've got we're we're at the end of the season, right? And we have a new season, season one, starting on Friday.

30:06.83
Jaime G 
Season one about the drop.

30:10.41
Tony Sisk
ah They did a trailer today. Today's January six. Did a trailer today. ah where they showed the Fantastic Four, right? So we're getting four new characters.

30:21.02
Tony Sisk
However, from what I understand, it's not necessarily four new characters right out of the gate. So we could see them drop as two or one the first week and the next one.

30:31.77
Jaime G 
Right, but but but I would say that there's four characters. They teased Dracula, right? Because season zero was doom, the bad guy, which never shows up. Dracula is the bad guy. And we've talked about how Blade was potentially a leaked character.

30:51.94
Jaime G 
If Dracula is the the the big bad, then Blade makes a really good addition to this to this season. So um I'm thinking they're teasing four characters right now with the Fantastic Four, but you're going to see Blade come up. Prediction right here.

31:09.48
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. And I think of the new map is going to be maybe New York City.

31:17.85
Jaime G 
It's got to be.

31:18.71
Tony Sisk
And and and there's also a rumor of a new game mode, which I don't think you could really tell that in a trailer, but there's a capture kind of a capture the flag game mode that could be coming.

31:19.15
Jaime G 
Yeah, that's where the Baxter building is.

31:29.84
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, good luck with that.

31:31.59
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

31:32.98
Sentfrmheaven
All right. All right.

31:37.05
Tony Sisk
Protect the flag carrier. that That'd be crazy.

31:39.28
Sentfrmheaven
All right. You know what? the

31:41.11
Tony Sisk
they would not be ah Hey, Jeff the shark may not be able to carry that flag.

31:44.90
Sentfrmheaven
Well, you know what? Him or or if you have your ultra, you can't carry the flag with your ultra. Or I should say, you you can't activate it. You can't activate your ultra with the flag. Because man,

31:56.13
Tony Sisk
That's probably true. He probably wouldn't be able to.

31:57.59
Sentfrmheaven
as a man, boy. That's crazy.

31:59.83
Jaime G 
yeah

32:00.52
Sentfrmheaven
She crazy. Yeah.

32:02.52
Jaime G 
And see, that's something that's missing for me, by the way.

32:03.10
Sentfrmheaven
Take it back to the old card days.

32:06.49
Jaime G 
New game modes. I would like to see that.

32:09.83
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you remember with the old, uh,

32:12.88
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I'm actually surprised that were that there were there was a rumor of one dropping.

32:17.68
Jaime G 
Uh-huh.

32:17.44
Tony Sisk
like um I thought a new map with the similar game modes. Sure, but a new gamemate game mode all together. OK.

32:26.86
Jaime G 
Right.

32:27.20
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

32:28.45
Tony Sisk
There's one game mode I hope that doesn't show up. I hope Prop Hunt doesn't show up in this from Call of Duty.

32:33.54
Jaime G 
Oh, man. Oh, this is this is not the type of game for prop hunt.

32:38.01
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

32:39.03
Jaime G 
Now.

32:39.45
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Right.

32:41.87
Tony Sisk
But. Yeah, so how how excited are you for the Fantastic Four, honey?

32:47.65
Jaime G 
i'm I'm excited to try out somehow. I want to see what Johnny Storm plays like. He's probably going to be another flyer, right?

32:55.30
Sentfrmheaven
right

32:55.68
Jaime G 
um And I was reading that that Mr.

32:55.74
Tony Sisk
Yeah, duels.

32:57.09
Sentfrmheaven
Flame on.

32:58.61
Jaime G 
Fantastic is going to be a tank. that's interesting to me because you know he's the skinny guy um but it's like he's still the skinny guy man it's like you telling me that Jeff the Landshark was going to be a tank well I mean I know the abilities but at first impression is like really

33:02.40
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

33:05.61
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but he can stretch his body, right?

33:08.31
Sentfrmheaven
huh

33:17.41
Tony Sisk
i I mean, yeah, was it wasn't Sue storm.

33:25.18
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, right. Yeah, that's funny.

33:28.30
Tony Sisk
She's going to be strategist more than likely for sure.

33:32.11
Jaime G 
Strategist for sure. Have you noticed how all the strategists are female?

33:34.63
Tony Sisk
She's going to be out there.

33:39.29
Jaime G 
Well, Jeff.

33:43.94
Sentfrmheaven
yes

33:43.85
Tony Sisk
Hey. I mean, they're good at it. There's Sean Hale, who was saying yesterday that the Mantis is one of the best duelists in the game, even though she's a strategist.

33:54.62
Jaime G 
Yeah.

33:54.28
Tony Sisk
So is Luna.

33:57.15
Jaime G 
Man, Mantis is fast, dude.

33:57.19
Sentfrmheaven
Mm hmm.

33:56.96
Tony Sisk
Like.

33:59.13
Sentfrmheaven
Tank. Yeah.

34:01.07
Tony Sisk
She's hard to hit. She's got a small outline, so like she's.

34:02.71
Jaime G 
Yeah, she is.

34:06.95
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

34:08.94
Tony Sisk
Running around tiny little character, you know who's tiny that I can't ever hit is Rocket.

34:16.09
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

34:16.22
Jaime G 
Rocket.

34:16.42
Tony Sisk
I can't even see him half the time because he's so small.

34:18.69
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

34:20.41
Jaime G 
Oh, oh.

34:20.23
Tony Sisk
And then when you do finally see him, he has his little short distance like yeah scoot ability and he climbs up walls.

34:24.13
Sentfrmheaven
Kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick.

34:32.14
Jaime G 
They do notice that one of the passive abilities for Jeff, the Landshark, I can't remember what the name of the ability is, but basically he takes less headshot damage.

34:32.28
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

34:43.25
Jaime G 
Because technically, if you notice, he's like, that's all that there is to him.

34:44.74
Sentfrmheaven
All right.

34:49.76
Tony Sisk
Right.

34:52.50
Jaime G 
Unless you're hitting him in the backside, it's a headshot.

34:52.51
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

34:56.35
Tony Sisk
Yeah. He's one of the most annoying characters to play against.

35:00.30
Jaime G 
Yeah, he's cute though.

35:00.49
Tony Sisk
Right. Because like he, because he can dip back into the ground and he's hard to hit.

35:04.91
Jaime G 
Uh-huh.

35:06.05
Tony Sisk
Uh, if you're a melee character, forget about it.

35:06.44
Sentfrmheaven
All right, just the fins sticking out.

35:06.53
Jaime G 
Yeah. And go up the wall or like weird places.

35:09.80
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And then, but he sneaks in when you're not paying attention and then next thing you know, it's gobble gobble, you know, swallows you up.

35:13.60
Sentfrmheaven
All right.

35:21.66
Tony Sisk
I've got my I've got my ah my ear cock to pick up any of those ultimate noises, you know.

35:30.17
Jaime G 
Yeah.

35:30.69
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

35:32.58
Tony Sisk
So I keep my ear out for his if I see him on a team.

35:39.55
Tony Sisk
Because it's like like if I'm playing Dr. Strange, he has a ah his l one button allows him to levitate. So I'll immediately click that.

35:50.48
Jaime G 
Yeah.

35:51.50
Tony Sisk
So I'll jump up in the air and levitate. If I'm playing Thor, I'll hammer out, get out of there. And if he catches me, he still like unless he commits suicide, I can still escape by by hammering back up onto the ledge.

36:06.52
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

36:09.95
Tony Sisk
I can also do that with Dr.

36:10.37
Jaime G 
Right.

36:10.96
Tony Sisk
Strange and Namor can also do that because he has his barrier protection ability, which is the

36:11.33
Sentfrmheaven
Haha.

36:19.25
Tony Sisk
Right shoulder button where he cocoons himself in like water So if you time it right when he spits you you can just levitate out Yes, you can Yeah, you can actually go up so you if you press the X button hold it it will send and then and then when you get out of the cocoon and

36:28.55
Jaime G 
Can you still move while you're in the cocoon state? Oh, okay, then you can get out of it.

36:43.17
Jaime G 
I don't know, man.

36:45.85
Tony Sisk
He has a little feathers on his heels and he can float out.

36:50.26
Jaime G 
Yeah. I'm still not sold on Aquaman, but okay.

36:58.31
Tony Sisk
All right, I guess I'll have to show you again.

36:59.05
Sentfrmheaven
That's funny. Show it to him.

37:02.64
Tony Sisk
but

37:05.04
Sentfrmheaven
Show them who you are.

37:07.31
Tony Sisk
I'm actually surprised though, I've been, you know, I've been queuing a lot as Namor. Like I went from zero minutes played on Namor like three days ago to now I'm like like six hours played on him. And I'm actually supplied a surprise by how many people that have not said anything in the chat when I, when I get into the lobby and I'm really locking the name war.

37:34.45
Tony Sisk
Cause I expect them to all to be like Jaime. Oh, this guy sucks.

37:37.96
Jaime G 
Oh, yeah.

37:37.97
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

37:39.06
Jaime G 
Oh, dude.

37:40.82
Tony Sisk
to You know, but you know what?

37:41.26
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

37:42.40
Tony Sisk
I don't get, I never get anything, but guess who's always at the top of the kill board name war.

37:46.88
Sentfrmheaven
Whiskey Jack.

37:50.42
Jaime G 
Oh, wow ah that was definitely me yesterday. I was like, no, man, this guy sucks. He picked name or.

37:59.45
Tony Sisk
Yep. All right. So, okay. So I'm ready to play more. Now we've talked about ready for season one, start the one of the new battle pass brings. Get some skins.

38:10.89
Tony Sisk
I got one skin from this past season. I got the, uh, the Thor skin or his, the younger, like silver haired door young door with the glowing eyes and, uh, like a cape that you can see the entire universe in the back of his cape is really cool.

38:30.73
Jaime G 
I need to I haven't gotten any any special scans that other than what the battle battle pass at Friday the 10th.

38:31.12
Tony Sisk
So.

38:39.31
Tony Sisk
yeah Well, I mean, check out the store.

38:39.69
Sentfrmheaven
Yep. Friday, the 10th.

38:41.85
Tony Sisk
There's some good ones in there.

38:45.48
Jaime G 
That's when it all that's when it all goes down Yeah, yeah

38:45.46
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

38:45.95
Sentfrmheaven
Friday, 10.

38:48.29
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

38:48.76
Sentfrmheaven
Yep. We're going to make them $10 million dollarsas on Friday. ah

38:54.54
Tony Sisk
All Well, OK. Well, thanks for joining in tonight. Can't wait. eat the to get back with you guys and talk about the next season ah after after our impressions with the whatever fantastic four characters we're getting and how that impacts the game, right?

39:11.93
Tony Sisk
Because, man, we don't you don't know how it's gonna impact it.

39:13.03
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

39:14.82
Tony Sisk
And I guess the seasonal buffs are gonna go away too, right? Because a lot of the characters in season zero had the 20% damage boost buff.

39:22.37
Jaime G 
and Yeah.

39:26.33
Jaime G 
Yeah, you're right.

39:27.81
Tony Sisk
So a lot of that is going to go away, and new characters are going to get those buffs, I'm assuming. So the landscape of the game is going to change a lot in the next four or five days, I'm sure. And there will be a whole new learning curve in adapting to to that. And characters that may have been mid before could be more powerful, and powerful characters it could be mid. so Having some flexibility and learn how to play a couple of different characters would definitely probably pay off. But yeah, can't wait for that. If you're interested in joining us in any Marvel Rivals games, be sure to join our Discord. We're always posting in our Discord messages.

40:15.92
Tony Sisk
You know when we're going on and when we're playing and when we're looking for more players to join our lobbies And you can comment on the episode In the episode description. There's a link there for you to comment. That's an email to us and let us know what you thought of the episode and what you thought what you think of Marvel Rivals and Let us know anything you would like for us to talk about In the future episodes Be sure so be sure to like us subscribe Whatever platform you're on you're listening to us on and we'll catch you in the next

40:50.32
Jaime G 
Cool.

40:50.84
Sentfrmheaven
but later

40:52.16
Jaime G 
See you guys soon.