Thunderbolts: Was it a Hit or Miss?

In this episode, Vance, Jaime and Tony give their reactions after seeing the Thunderbolts movie.

Transcript

00:01.59
Tony Sisk
Hi folks, welcome back to Good to Game Radio. I'm here tonight with a special guest. No, not a guest.

00:07.64
Jaime G 
Yep. yep

00:09.72
Tony Sisk
I got Jaime in the studio and Vance. What's going on?

00:15.56
Sentfrmheaven
Ah, no much, man. I miss you guys. Missed the audience, man.

00:22.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that adult parenting thing is really throwing you for a loop.

00:32.92
Sentfrmheaven
Man, feel like um failing.

00:36.77
Jaime G 
Adulting is hard, man.

00:39.28
Tony Sisk
Right. how How can us adult gamers get all our gaming and stuff in if we have stop and raise a family?

00:48.42
Jaime G 
Right. Right.

00:49.76
Tony Sisk
Come on.

00:50.63
Jaime G 
right

00:53.38
Sentfrmheaven
And, man, speaking of that, it's funny you say that. So, you know, what we have like a 2K league, right? But a lot of the guys that's on my team, you know, we work early hours in the morning, you know.

01:04.63
Sentfrmheaven
So the other night, one team was like, man, we can only play at 1030 at night. We all like, ugh. all right, for the sake of the league, whatever, you know what I'm saying? You know, we got stuff to do with a day. We'll do it.

01:17.58
Sentfrmheaven
Man, we stayed up 1030 and lost. We was like, man, we should have went to sleep. You know, like it's hard, like you said, because, you know, you got your your adult duties, you know.

01:31.18
Tony Sisk
So you're saying that the the magazine cover that I made of you and your n b NBA 2K called titled Masters of the Game should be old men needing their nap time.

01:45.23
Sentfrmheaven
Absolutely. Absolutely.

01:52.73
Jaime G 
Man, I said this before and I'm going to say it again. Why is that magazine cover not posted in more places?

02:00.46
Tony Sisk
Oh, I mean, you guys can download that.

02:01.03
Sentfrmheaven
You know what? It will be. It will be.

02:02.81
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I mean, it's not my image, you know, it's not my image. The, the, the, the, uh, copyright owner has to, uh, has to spread his own, uh, marketing.

02:14.20
Sentfrmheaven
if you...

02:17.79
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, I look at her and I laugh and I say, yo, that's pretty good. i like that. that's really That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

02:25.71
Tony Sisk
For of those wondering, I took a picture of Vance at work the other day. um and Then I had the artificial intelligence chat GPT conjure up an image of him in a Lakers uniform and basketball, giving directions to his team on the on the court.

02:49.55
Tony Sisk
I thought it looked pretty good. You know, it's framed within the info gamer style video game magazine. We got little headlines, Xbox raises prices and then masters the game.

03:00.76
Jaime G 
Are you sure that was AI? That looked pretty legit to me.

03:04.50
Tony Sisk
Right. even put a UPC code in the bottom left.

03:06.73
Jaime G 
I know.

03:07.87
Sentfrmheaven
Absolutely.

03:12.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So that was, that was fun. I messed around with that. So, but that's what we're talking about. Yeah. have to you go If you're in a Discord, I'm sure it's going to pop up here in the next day or so.

03:25.08
Tony Sisk
if

03:25.26
Sentfrmheaven
Absolutely. absolutely

03:28.36
Tony Sisk
All right. Let's get into our topic for tonight. ah Last week, Jaime and I gave our predictions for the new Marvel movie, Thunderbolts.

03:43.29
Tony Sisk
And... We have all gone on since then gone and seen the movie. So that's what ah that's what we're going to be talking about tonight is our impressions of Thunderboats and what we thought about it.

03:57.93
Sentfrmheaven
so

03:59.42
Tony Sisk
So you guys ready to get into it?

04:03.51
Jaime G 
Ready?

04:04.21
Sentfrmheaven
Ready.

04:04.97
Tony Sisk
All right. Who wants to start?

04:09.99
Sentfrmheaven
I'll start it off. I'll start it off.

04:11.85
Tony Sisk
Okay.

04:12.20
Jaime G 
right, serving it up.

04:13.22
Tony Sisk
All right. Let's.

04:14.49
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, you know, special guest always starts first.

04:17.20
Tony Sisk
Right, right. So tell us, Vince, how much did you know about about this movie beforehand? ah And what did you think, the parts that you saw?

04:31.37
Sentfrmheaven
Um, I knew nothing about, uh,

04:33.09
Jaime G 
Of course, you saw.

04:39.05
Sentfrmheaven
ah he slid it in there. No, yes, I knew nothing about like the movie as a whole, comics and stuff like that. Now each, you know, of course, um, person besides my man, Bob, you know, I've seen other things they were like that, but, uh, um, I definitely, I definitely liked the movie.

04:57.18
Sentfrmheaven
Um, And I definitely, do the message that I got was, you know, like togetherness, you know, like band of misfits coming together for a common goal. But i did I did enjoy it. I liked the fight scenes.

05:13.04
Sentfrmheaven
um You know, liked the ah cinematic effect because what we saw in the um Adobe Ibex. So, yeah, so it was pretty pretty good. You know, i like I liked everything about it.

05:27.67
Tony Sisk
Yeah, um what about you, Hamid? Did you live up to, you thought it was going to be pretty good. up From the prediction you gave, you I think you said that it was, would you say it was going to be like upper 80s?

05:40.49
Jaime G 
I said, no, I said 600. I actually listened to the old podcast today because you one-upped me with like 601,000.

05:48.19
Tony Sisk
Well, that's the money, right? But we we're talking about the ah rating on it.

05:50.21
Jaime G 
Yeah.

05:53.46
Jaime G 
Oh, yeah. yeah i think I don't know what the ratings were, but I did make another prediction that did come true, which was Taskmaster.

06:01.64
Tony Sisk
Yep, you got that right. You said that past Taskmaster with with would die.

06:03.32
Jaime G 
I got that right.

06:07.65
Tony Sisk
And I was actually surprised by that. You don't often see a fatality like that, even...

06:13.82
Jaime G 
It's actually, okay, so so I've had numerous discussions about this this conversation. And here's the thing, Taskmaster made sense.

06:24.27
Jaime G 
First off, they needed to raise the ah the up the ante pretty quickly. And within the first, what, 20 minutes this happens? I mean, it's very early in the movie.

06:34.77
Tony Sisk
Right.

06:36.12
Jaime G 
and And at that point, it's like, wow, this is legit. Something can go down with anybody, right? And second, the reason why I kind of knew this was coming is that Taskmaster was the one that has the least to offer. I mean, what do you want? A second guy with a shield?

06:53.63
Jaime G 
Another person that can do spy stuff? I mean, he can't disappear or she can't disappear. But it was like, other than becoming you know the first person to go down, there was really no other purpose for that character.

07:09.46
Tony Sisk
Right.

07:09.85
Jaime G 
um But talking about the movie, I really enjoyed it. I mean, ever since the movie started, it had my attention. It didn't waste a lot of time setting up the plot or the characters.

07:23.38
Jaime G 
It just said characters, bad guys, boom. It felt like the pacing was like really quick to get into like the narrative. Um,

07:35.33
Jaime G 
I think Vance is has pointed out something that I didn't think about you know discussing, which was the theme for the movie. I kind of felt like this was a whole arc about we all have issues. we Clearly, Yelena had her own issues. she had and But she had like daddy issues. She had like what am I doing with my life kind of issue, which is kind of something that even though these are like enhanced characters, larger than life characters, something that I think many people can relate to and see the struggles of like, oh, there is a redeeming story at the end.

08:16.17
Jaime G 
um I honestly i've i've i honestly love the fact that there was no multiverse nonsense in this one. ah And we can we there's there's a lot more to be said around here, but I stuck to the very end, second post-credit scenes.

08:26.42
Tony Sisk
Right.

08:38.74
Jaime G 
And, you know, I'm here watching like the credits roll, the credits roll, and ah when they're when the credits are are coming up and they're like, theme of the fantastic four i was like what do you mean theme of the fantastic four the only time the fantastic four ever came up were in the previews right and then i was like and then i was like oh so so yeah i mean overall this is a movie that was in line with my expectations it

08:57.86
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Excuse

09:04.21
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

09:11.91
Jaime G 
As I said before, it has the potential to turn it back around for marble because they need it they need a hit.

09:21.80
Jaime G 
This might help them out.

09:24.71
Tony Sisk
Yeah, this was ah this movie has a lot of, I've seen a lot of goodwill toward the movie.

09:26.32
Sentfrmheaven
me.

09:30.43
Tony Sisk
lot of ah positive word of mouth.

09:31.11
Jaime G 
Mm-hmm.

09:35.70
Tony Sisk
I mean, it was it was pretty entertaining. i Now, let me tell you, yeah well we went, Amy and I went on Thursday night to the 8 o'clock show, right which is pretty late. i had to work on Friday morning.

09:49.18
Tony Sisk
mean, have to get up at like 3.30. I know, Vance, you're already at work at 3.30. But i have to get up at 3.30. So, but I chose the 8 o'clock because that was the time that, you know, that fit.

10:00.97
Tony Sisk
Amy getting off of her job and then having time to eat dinner and then go to the movie. So we went there. ah Got into the theater. It was the Dolby. I'm pretty sure it's probably the same one that you went to, Vance, if you went the Stone Driven Nine.

10:18.17
Sentfrmheaven
Yep.

10:18.32
Tony Sisk
But yeah yep got in there.

10:19.49
Jaime G 
That's where i went to.

10:22.33
Tony Sisk
Place was packed.

10:26.47
Tony Sisk
They've got the you know advertisements running on the screen. No sound. All right. I'm like, okay. They're still cleaning I'm sure we'll get the sound in a minute.

10:39.76
Tony Sisk
First trailer comes up. Still no sound. Okay. I've seen this trailer. I don't care. I don't need to see, I don't need to hear the sound on a trailer. I've already seen this trailer. Second trailer comes up.

10:53.01
Tony Sisk
Still no sound. I'm like, okay, that was a new trailer. I'm like, Oh, it would have been nice to hear what there was going on in the trailer. I started looking around, you know, like,

11:04.16
Tony Sisk
Everybody's having their own personal conversations and stuff. I was like, it's kind of weird. Like, I feel like I'm in like some sort of alternate reality where I'm the only one that's aware. Like, does nobody have any concerns about the fact that we don't have any sound yet?

11:22.02
Tony Sisk
Third trailer comes up and you know, there's like eight trailers, right?

11:23.84
Sentfrmheaven
you this is

11:26.46
Tony Sisk
It was probably about the sixth trailer, still no sound. Before i I saw some guy that I had seen ah when I first came into the theater dressed up in all his Marvel gear. even had like a toy, a Marvel toy, older guy.

11:42.84
Tony Sisk
He finally got up and walked out. I'm like, okay, I'm for sure that guy's probably going to go tell the manager whatever.

11:52.34
Tony Sisk
It was, it wasn't until, ah you know, the, the the AMC trailer where they where they they have the guy and a girl dancing and eating popcorn.

12:05.49
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

12:06.22
Tony Sisk
That was, it wasn't until then that somebody from the theater actually came into the theater and started to head back up. So I'm like, man, wait until the last second.

12:21.13
Tony Sisk
Movie starts to roll, dude. Still no sound. And then it cuts off. Lights come on in the theater.

12:30.71
Tony Sisk
Theater employee comes in, says, ah yeah, we have an issue with our projector system. Our manager's on the phone to headquarters trying to get a walk through the procedure to figure out what's going on.

12:46.49
Tony Sisk
If it's not up in 20 minutes, we'll refund everybody and and you can get ah free tickets to another movie at the at the concession stand. and And I'm like, what?

12:59.39
Tony Sisk
I'm like, uh-uh, no way. I'm like, there's going to be some mad people up in this place. I mean, people are just like, they've got their buckets of popcorn or drinks. Now you're going to tell them, sorry, you got to go home.

13:11.17
Tony Sisk
I mean, that stuff costs like $40.

13:13.76
Jaime G 
Yeah. yeah

13:14.19
Tony Sisk
I was getting ready.

13:14.20
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Right.

13:15.19
Tony Sisk
i was I was getting ready to see some like real life action play out.

13:22.30
Tony Sisk
But credit to them. The screen came up with sound and then we started rolling. It was like a 45, 45 minutes later than advertised.

13:34.03
Tony Sisk
So I didn't get home till like 1130 at night. So.

13:38.93
Tony Sisk
yeah You know what I mean?

13:40.44
Jaime G 
So, I mean, this is funny that you're talking about the trailers, Tony, is that on Friday, I convinced my my my wife to go and see this movie with me. She didn didn't want to see it because of Florence Pugh, Pew, whatever.

13:53.17
Jaime G 
um So we left, and we're and I'm heading to the movie theater, and I'm driving i'm driving towards the movie theater in Smyrna, and we're we're running late.

13:57.12
Sentfrmheaven
Okay.

14:06.61
Jaime G 
I mean, we're already running late. And all of a sudden, I'm like, man, it's a good thing I have the passes on my phone. And then I'm thinking, wait, passes on my phone?

14:21.36
Jaime G 
That theater in Smyrna doesn't do that.

14:26.58
Tony Sisk
Now you really are running late.

14:26.68
Jaime G 
So, yeah, right?

14:29.04
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Yeah.

14:30.60
Jaime G 
I'm like, oh, no, um I'm headed towards the wrong theater, and I've only got me to blame. man

14:36.62
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

14:37.30
Jaime G 
and And my wife my wife's like, it's It's OK if we arrive a couple of minutes late. I mean, they're not they're still going to let you in. Dude, we arrived like 25 minutes late.

14:50.74
Jaime G 
And there were still trailers, right?

14:53.94
Tony Sisk
ah Right.

14:53.96
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

14:54.38
Jaime G 
We caught the last trailer.

14:54.89
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

14:56.92
Jaime G 
my my wife I mean, we get there late. and I said, i we arrived 25 minutes late. We still get waiting in line to buy popcorn. At this point, we're like 35 minutes late. late So you wasted 35 minutes just watching trailers. Sorry, I had to throw that out there.

15:13.49
Jaime G 
i would have never remembered and if you had not said anything about that there's a bunch of trailers.

15:14.13
Tony Sisk
Right.

15:14.71
Sentfrmheaven
and

15:17.57
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

15:18.53
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, I'm like, speaking of trailers, man, that Megan one was probably the worst.

15:23.87
Jaime G 
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm actually excited about this movie.

15:26.07
Tony Sisk
No, that's the one I was actually wanting to listen to and I couldn't hear it

15:29.09
Sentfrmheaven
that Megan 2.0, I don't know. Maybe I got to watch the first Megan to see.

15:34.52
Jaime G 
Dude.

15:35.66
Tony Sisk
You got to watch the first one.

15:35.74
Jaime G 
It's now an action movie, man.

15:37.80
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

15:37.95
Jaime G 
isn't is She does kung fu.

15:40.23
Tony Sisk
Yeah. You got to watch the first one. Um, but back to the Thunderbolts. Um, so yeah, I mean, ah didn't, I don't have a lot of background on with our characters in this movie. We've got, uh, ghost.

15:58.09
Tony Sisk
I don't even remember seeing this character anywhere.

16:00.98
Jaime G 
Ant-Man 2.

16:01.24
Tony Sisk
Uh, Ant-Man 2? Okay. I don't remember. um Sentry? Never heard of him.

16:08.41
Jaime G 
Brad, Brad, new character.

16:10.05
Tony Sisk
Right? Of course, we have Winter Soldier. He's been in a lot of stuff, so that's easy one for me to recognize. Red Guardian? He was in the Scarlett Johansson Black Widow movie.

16:23.79
Jaime G 
Yep.

16:24.46
Tony Sisk
ah So he was he was good in that. He was really good in this movie. He's super funny. Um, Then we have Yelena, who's probably, I guess, the main character, the star of this particular movie.

16:35.26
Jaime G 
Yep. Yep.

16:39.35
Tony Sisk
ah Walker, what what we call him what it what were were they calling him? Agent Walker or something like that?

16:45.42
Jaime G 
uh us agent

16:46.88
Tony Sisk
U.S. Agent.

16:49.96
Tony Sisk
So if you've, I don't know, you don't have Disney+, plus you did not see the... the Disney show that had him in it. Me and Vance, it's been what, three years now?

17:01.07
Tony Sisk
I think we did some episodes and we talked about this guy.

17:02.00
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

17:06.40
Tony Sisk
shady, shady selection ass Captain America.

17:06.72
Sentfrmheaven
All right. So

17:11.42
Tony Sisk
um

17:11.50
Sentfrmheaven
look, so so ah Tony, yeah, like he brought up ah the, the winter soldier Disney show. So hi this is what pissed me off about the show. Uh, I wasn't Bucky, right?

17:25.95
Sentfrmheaven
Assassin. Okay. Cause even in this movie, he references like what, he would be like what, 90 years old or something like that.

17:32.71
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

17:33.00
Sentfrmheaven
Like, so this dude was trained assassin. This little teenage girl.

17:37.49
Jaime G 
Dude, he shot JFK.

17:40.56
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, I didn't know that.

17:40.58
Jaime G 
They hint that he shot JFK.

17:43.21
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, I didn't know that. I'm going to have to dig more into that.

17:45.26
Jaime G 
Yeah. Yeah.

17:47.53
Sentfrmheaven
Interesting, interesting. So in the show, this teenage girl just gets, you know, super soldier serum. Mind you, teenage girl. She's going hand-in-hand with Bucky.

18:02.22
Sentfrmheaven
I'm like, ain't no way. like there's like There's no way this trained assassin is letting this teenage girl get the best of

18:03.95
Tony Sisk
yeah

18:10.23
Jaime G 
i Well, that trained assassin in this movie was a congressman, dude. Where's the sense in that? Isn't that like some law or something to prevent people like that from becoming congressmen?

18:24.72
Tony Sisk
No, man.

18:24.96
Sentfrmheaven
Well, don't forget,

18:25.76
Tony Sisk
I can't beat in politics.

18:26.08
Sentfrmheaven
The president turned into red monster.

18:28.91
Jaime G 
Well, that's true.

18:30.53
Tony Sisk
Right, which they did reference in the movie. ah

18:33.57
Jaime G 
Yeah, it was a little bit of a pun.

18:34.25
Tony Sisk
That was the most recent Marvel of a movie was Captain America a Brave New World, right?

18:41.52
Jaime G 
Yeah, guys, guys, out of this whole movie, I would love right now to put the Red Guardian and Drax and a 12-pack of beer in a room and just listen to them talk.

18:42.50
Sentfrmheaven
Mm-hmm.

18:57.40
Tony Sisk
Right. And that's kind of what this is kind of like a Gardens of the Galaxy a lot. Right. Just kind of like a group of misfits with a lot of.

19:06.26
Jaime G 
Yeah, just silly conversation, silly banter.

19:09.98
Tony Sisk
Right.

19:10.89
Jaime G 
Yeah. what What super soldier serum you get?

19:12.56
Tony Sisk
Yeah, exactly. Right. hugh he exactly

19:18.93
Sentfrmheaven
And when she's like, when she goes into his house, you know, she's like, she's like, oh, so you're busy? And he's like, no, I lied. Look around. Hey. it

19:30.42
Jaime G 
Could have fooled me, right?

19:34.49
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's it's in movies like this too. you it's like It's so ironic that he's the tech i he's the limousine driver that happens to be giving Valentino and her deputy a ride so he can hear the conversation about you know giving the termination order for them, for Yelena and the rest of the Ox group agents that are in, was it New Mexico or Arizona or stuff like that?

20:06.30
Sentfrmheaven
we

20:09.42
Tony Sisk
Utah maybe?

20:09.54
Jaime G 
Somewhere where there was a big old desert.

20:11.58
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it was in the desert.

20:11.88
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

20:12.42
Tony Sisk
He just happens to be, and his limousine, hears it, and then he drives there.

20:22.69
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

20:22.77
Jaime G 
In the limo.

20:23.20
Sentfrmheaven
He's like, yeah, you know, I heard the coordinates. He heard the coordinates like it.

20:27.82
Jaime G 
All right.

20:30.54
Jaime G 
I think he's like, Yelena, don't go.

20:35.50
Jaime G 
After the fact.

20:37.00
Tony Sisk
Yeah. But yeah, go ahead.

20:38.91
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, see, no, go ahead. Well, yeah, I was going to say, like, sometimes, like, I'm conflicted as to what I expect of a character and what happens.

20:41.65
Tony Sisk
no

20:50.47
Sentfrmheaven
Because, I mean, you got all, you know, supposed to be high-intelligent people in the room. It's like, but Bob, what are you doing here? And, like, all these quests, like, man, look here. If I was in the room, Bob would been tied up, beat up somewhere. Like, bro, he just out of nowhere appeared, like,

21:07.07
Sentfrmheaven
You know, like, I'm like, come on, Y'all asking a thousand questions here. Bob should have been locked up somewhere.

21:15.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah, well, I think ah Walker wanted wanted to pretty much and kill him right off the bat, right? It was, wasn't Yelena that kind of kept kept him kept him alive, you know?

21:24.08
Jaime G 
Yeah, he was evidenced.

21:25.37
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, he did, yeah.

21:30.20
Tony Sisk
Because she because ah when the movie kicked off, she ah she was in a mission where there was a lot of collateral damage, you know?

21:38.00
Jaime G 
ah You could see like the shadows that an accident had happened there. but Which, by the way, was it just me, or did anybody else wonder what happened to the hamster?

21:50.89
Sentfrmheaven
Right, yeah, because she saves the hamster, yeah.

21:53.43
Jaime G 
hey

21:53.54
Sentfrmheaven
I don't know what hamster He's probably back in the apartment waiting. Oh, no.

21:57.23
Jaime G 
Yeah, he's still waiting for them, man.

21:59.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Well, apparently he, he is in the post credit scenes when there's a, they do the, yep.

22:06.07
Jaime G 
The hamster?

22:08.00
Tony Sisk
When they do the string of illustrations from like newspapers and stuff, talking about them, there was like, apparently there was one where it was like a knockoff of George Washington crossing the Delaware.

22:12.73
Jaime G 
Oh, yeah.

22:13.76
Sentfrmheaven
oh

22:13.90
Jaime G 
Yeah.

22:14.35
Sentfrmheaven
oh

22:22.05
Tony Sisk
there is And they had that with them in the boat, and the hamster was on the front of the boat.

22:28.25
Jaime G 
oh Totally missed it.

22:30.51
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, okay.

22:31.08
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I just happened to hear this on so somewhere else. I didn't catch it myself. I mean, that would have been ego-eyed to catch that. but um But, yeah, somebody caught it.

22:42.52
Jaime G 
Somebody did.

22:45.03
Tony Sisk
Somebody's probably watched it three times already.

22:48.73
Tony Sisk
But um that fight... So they they all get set up, right, by Valentino. is it Valentino or Valentino?

22:58.71
Jaime G 
Valentina, she's a girl.

23:00.21
Sentfrmheaven
The Valentina. Like, you don't say secretary of offense, it's defense.

23:01.73
Tony Sisk
Okay.

23:05.98
Jaime G 
The offense. It's not the Valentina, it's the Fontaine.

23:09.78
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah.

23:10.38
Sentfrmheaven
No, I'll say.

23:10.54
Tony Sisk
She's got a long name, but, um, so she sends them there to basically kind of set them up, um, and makes them all like, here's your target.

23:21.31
Tony Sisk
There's going to be this person that shows up here. You need to take them out. And then they all show up and they're all, they all have a target. Like they're like targeting somebody else. So they're all like, you know, in that like circle of targets. Um,

23:36.72
Tony Sisk
But um when when the one Taskmaster bites the bullet, literally, um that actually caught me off guard because I'm thinking, okay, here we go. We're going to see all this, like 10 minutes worth of fighting and they're all going to get fine to the point where they're like, okay, I'm tired.

23:56.48
Tony Sisk
Let's talk us out. But no, one of them actually did get killed. It's kind of like... a

24:06.88
Tony Sisk
DC with their suicide squad. Like they actually kill the suicide squad multiple times, right?

24:15.32
Jaime G 
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:15.69
Tony Sisk
All the time. We don't expect that in the MCU. That's your, you're talking about true, true villains. Um, you don't, uh, typically see just as, you know, up close bullet to the head, uh, scene. So that caught me off guard. I was like, what?

24:34.02
Tony Sisk
Okay.

24:34.44
Jaime G 
and there was There was two, there was two, like, I wasn't expecting that moment.

24:35.32
Tony Sisk
Uh,

24:39.46
Jaime G 
And that was the first one for me. Definitely. That was like, I did not see that coming in at Marvel movie.

24:47.35
Tony Sisk
was the second when the little girl got...

24:50.36
Sentfrmheaven
Yes.

24:51.36
Jaime G 
Dude, the entire, the entire room, and you could hear everyone go like, like collectively, like 80 people.

24:52.12
Sentfrmheaven
Yes.

24:59.75
Tony Sisk
um I was like, what?

25:01.13
Sentfrmheaven
a

25:01.98
Tony Sisk
Did they just...

25:02.37
Sentfrmheaven
That was so funny, man, because as soon as it happened, I looked at my son, and we started laughing.

25:02.99
Tony Sisk
Did they

25:09.89
Sentfrmheaven
I was like, hey, man, like you said, that caught us off guard. That's funny.

25:16.02
Jaime G 
yeah And and where does it where does this take place?

25:18.59
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but you know there was ah there was a workaround.

25:22.81
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Right.

25:23.00
Tony Sisk
But that was funny. It was cool because you've got buildings collapsing and you actually got super you actually had superheroes actually saving people.

25:35.60
Tony Sisk
I haven't seen that since the attack on New York when the the original Avengers were going around saving people.

25:45.07
Jaime G 
Same spot.

25:46.11
Tony Sisk
Yeah, same spot.

25:47.59
Jaime G 
But did you notice that as the superheroes are either like storming the Avengers Tower fighting or whatever, people are just like chilling, walking by nothing.

25:59.34
Jaime G 
Like nothing, dude.

25:59.99
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah, yeah.

26:00.57
Jaime G 
Yeah.

26:00.81
Tony Sisk
I thought about that. Like when they when they drove the vehicle into the lobby ah the of the tower, there was like machine gun fire going off and people, you know, fighting it out. And like people were just walking by.

26:14.71
Jaime G 
Yeah, dude, like taking selfies in the background.

26:17.59
Tony Sisk
It's New York. They're used to it. Yeah.

26:19.06
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, but speaking of that, so Tony, did you get to see the Fantastic Four trailer with Sam? Did you see that one?

26:30.97
Tony Sisk
ah No, did not.

26:32.76
Sentfrmheaven
All right. So, I mean, you remember when um is Mr. Fantastic, he's given press conference and they're like, are we safe? So usually, so like you said, it's like those people, even though all this is going on, they feel safe because they do have those superheroes.

26:42.63
Jaime G 
Yes.

26:49.10
Sentfrmheaven
Only do they panic when the superheroes getting whooped. Then they're like, oh, oh, oh, we got to go.

26:53.30
Jaime G 
Yeah, yeah.

26:55.34
Sentfrmheaven
he This man got punched through three buildings. It's time to go.

26:59.19
Jaime G 
Yeah.

27:01.52
Tony Sisk
ye

27:01.98
Jaime G 
No, definitely. There was a lot to unpack in every... That's the thing. like Every single major scene gives you a lot to talk about. Either the behavior or of the main characters, the people around them, the situation. There's something going on.

27:19.42
Tony Sisk
So question

27:19.73
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

27:22.50
Tony Sisk
is was a century, is century too overpowered?

27:30.34
Jaime G 
Yes. and the And the comic books, the Sentry started off as, you know, your Marvel version of Superman with depression issues, right? Mental health issues.

27:46.19
Jaime G 
Because at first he could just, he was just strong and could fly. Then in the comic books, they kind of

27:54.29
Jaime G 
evolved him to like he had control over matter. Literally matter. Like he could destroy particles. And he got so overpowered that they had to nuke him.

28:05.84
Jaime G 
So...

28:08.93
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. He's like he pretty much that way in the movie, right? he what was it Who was it?

28:13.20
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

28:14.39
Tony Sisk
Red Guardian said it was like, we're just fists and boots and versus, you know, something unstoppable.

28:25.38
Jaime G 
And that's even before they he they knew what he could do, wasn't it?

28:28.77
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Because I think if I seen it correctly, because when a Walker pushes him up against the wall, I think his eyes changed and that's what kind of back walker off.

28:39.29
Sentfrmheaven
Like, this dude's not like, you know, he's just not regular. You know, he, he could sense like, uh, maybe i've ben I may not push the envelope.

28:49.06
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, I mean, the fact that he can just fly, there's not too many

28:56.89
Tony Sisk
Captain Marvel can fly like that. Who else?

29:03.22
Jaime G 
Who else? The Falcon.

29:04.98
Sentfrmheaven
Vision, Vision Can Fly, I think.

29:06.76
Jaime G 
Vision can fly.

29:07.35
Tony Sisk
Vision could fly. There's not a whole lot of the superheroes in the MCU that just fly.

29:13.34
Sentfrmheaven
Nah, uh-uh.

29:13.33
Tony Sisk
He's just levitating there.

29:15.65
Sentfrmheaven
Right.

29:15.82
Tony Sisk
And like, did he starts like just smoking people?

29:23.02
Jaime G 
Yeah.

29:23.78
Tony Sisk
yeah

29:25.32
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, and then it's like, yeah.

29:25.62
Tony Sisk
They all were running. They were all running.

29:27.99
Sentfrmheaven
I'm gonna look here, ti a TV book, TV show real life. If this man just ate about 300 rounds and he gets up and y'all gonna pull the guns back up like y'all about to give him another, like, no, we're gone.

29:42.61
Jaime G 
and Yeah, right?

29:44.60
Sentfrmheaven
We're gone. We're gone.

29:45.89
Tony Sisk
yeah

29:45.96
Jaime G 
that's That's marble logic for you. Just keep on shooting.

29:49.40
Tony Sisk
But you have to you have to kind of think it like there had to have been some serious panic when people finally realized what was going on.

29:59.40
Tony Sisk
Some serious panic going on because they would have been reliving what happened and in-game, right? People just with a snap of the finger. he was' a snap and He wasn't even snapping his finger. He was just...

30:12.46
Jaime G 
The blip.

30:13.71
Tony Sisk
yeah People, yeah, just disappearing. But that's kind of how they resolved it, right? They resolved, Yelena kind of figured it out that, well, she took the chance.

30:29.21
Tony Sisk
And um

30:32.43
Tony Sisk
they basically used a big hug.

30:37.67
Sentfrmheaven
Pretty much, pretty much.

30:42.52
Tony Sisk
Yeah. But, you know, that was the cliche.

30:44.54
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, because mean.

30:46.37
Tony Sisk
It was like, you know, you saw that coming from from a mile away, right? like Because when she was being nice to him early on in the movie, when he... Yep.

30:55.67
Jaime G 
Again, it's it's about being accepted.

30:59.71
Tony Sisk
Yep.

31:01.06
Jaime G 
Right?

31:01.09
Sentfrmheaven
Well, yeah, well, also too, because like it kind of leads up to like what Elena And, you know, her dad, it's like, it's it's about, I feel like it's about, one, you got to ah address the problem, but still people have to give you space to grow and forgive.

31:23.79
Sentfrmheaven
You know, because if you if you hang on to it, and that's what the void was. The void was you just hanging on to it. Yeah.

31:32.73
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Well, Yelena of had like her, her shame moment was basically she baited her friend into the, into whatever that was her, her trial in the woods.

31:48.30
Jaime G 
it It was a trap, really.

31:50.70
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah, and she had she kept reliving that. It's like she basically was culpable in the death of another yeah her a young girl or whatever.

32:03.59
Tony Sisk
It's like, man, the Red Room.

32:05.17
Jaime G 
That was probably one of many. Yeah.

32:07.31
Tony Sisk
Yeah. they were They really were little killers.

32:14.73
Tony Sisk
can we get us Did we get a ah flashback like that with scarlet when Scarlett Johansson was Black Widow?

32:20.98
Jaime G 
I think they did.

32:21.10
Tony Sisk
What was her like worst moment as one of these red room people?

32:27.34
Jaime G 
Wasn't she responsible for Taskmaster's, the character, the the daughter's death or something?

32:33.73
Sentfrmheaven
e Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do remember that.

32:38.36
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

32:38.55
Jaime G 
And I think they showed it as a flashback too.

32:43.61
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. I am.

32:47.87
Tony Sisk
Up until this particular movie, I did not, I was not a big fan of the new Black Widow ah played by Florence Pugh.

32:59.93
Tony Sisk
I'm like, I'm not feeling her as the new Black Widow. She just didn't, she seemed very one-dimensional, right? She's just a killer.

33:13.43
Jaime G 
Yeah.

33:13.48
Tony Sisk
ah But she did a great job in this movie. I thought it's of, uh, yeah.

33:18.57
Jaime G 
My wife didn't want to see this movie because of the new Black Widow. And after seeing this movie, you know, and again, this theme of like, we're all struggle with stuff.

33:24.63
Sentfrmheaven
and

33:30.74
Jaime G 
She came out of it. She's like, yeah, um I kind of like her as Black Widow now. It's like, what? You just did a 180 on me

33:39.31
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Well, my wife was like, you she's not she's not a huge Marvel person. though She couldn't tell you what is going on a Marvel movie. um

33:49.80
Jaime G 
What?

33:50.48
Tony Sisk
Right? imagine that.

33:51.99
Sentfrmheaven
but

33:53.73
Tony Sisk
But she actually she was actually very entertained by the movie. And she came out of the theater. impressed with the story and how well it did with the you know the storytelling and made her care for you know what was going on the screen. Usually she falls asleep.

34:16.65
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, here we go.

34:16.69
Tony Sisk
Yeah. yeah

34:18.22
Sentfrmheaven
right.

34:18.49
Tony Sisk
We usually have to do the the o elbow to the side. you know Hey, stop snoring.

34:26.44
Tony Sisk
But no, she was engaged with this movie. So that' that's got to give you at least eight. and a

34:35.65
Tony Sisk
Because she's, when it comes to action movies or pop culture or movies or, you know, sci-fi movies, no she's she's already, like, got her blanket and figuring out her best position to take a nap.

34:50.34
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, the worst thing that you do.

34:50.59
Jaime G 
Dude, that that is so different now. People go to the movie theater with blankets.

34:52.89
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

34:56.90
Jaime G 
that i Dude, that that only started happening after the COVID lockdowns.

35:00.27
Sentfrmheaven
After the COVID lockdowns.

35:04.59
Jaime G 
So...

35:05.00
Sentfrmheaven
So. Yeah. And ah those reclining chairs, boy, do something to you. Hey, as soon as I hit the button, hey, let's go back. But yeah, but it's like, it's definitely, um,

35:19.88
Sentfrmheaven
But, you know, the trust, the trust started early because you remember Bob's a new guy. They don't know him. I'm familiar. But he was the one like, hey, let's all go back, back up this tunnel.

35:30.59
Sentfrmheaven
You know, after after my man Walker jumped 100 feet just to come crashing down.

35:39.17
Sentfrmheaven
said, you know, it's like when he jumped and everybody's looking up. ah I said, know he's coming back down. I said, man, I said, man, a terrible. Yeah. But but it's like, yeah, you know, the teamwork teamwork was there, you know. I mean, definitely, a I feel like a lot of people should go het see this movie, you know, because, I mean, it's like putting differences aside and getting things done for the comic goal is, i feel like, something you can apply every day in life, you know?

36:03.19
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

36:03.78
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

36:05.47
Tony Sisk
But I'm good to echo somebody.

36:06.05
Sentfrmheaven
But, think I have to help somebody.

36:16.81
Tony Sisk
Anyway, what is going on?

36:17.38
Sentfrmheaven
Anyway, What is going on?

36:19.47
Tony Sisk
Hello?

36:22.40
Jaime G 
Not me, man.

36:22.85
Sentfrmheaven
Not me, man.

36:23.16
Jaime G 
I'm muted.

36:23.61
Sentfrmheaven
I'm

36:29.31
Tony Sisk
Hello?

36:32.39
Tony Sisk
Okay, anyway. um i can't remember was going to say now.

36:40.20
Jaime G 
ah think you're saying more people need to see this movie.

36:40.26
Sentfrmheaven
not.

36:43.14
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that's what Vance was saying. Yeah, I'm sure more people will see this movie. It's got a great word of mouth. um

36:52.62
Tony Sisk
So it's a it's a good, I consider, ah finally is it finally a starting point? for, you know, something bigger. We've kind of been waiting for this for like four or five years. We've seen like, we've gotten a dozen movies that have kind of introduced characters. And then those characters have kind of disappeared.

37:11.92
Tony Sisk
You might see them maybe in a, um, momentarily in some other project or something like that for, but for the most part, you know, it felt like Marvel was spinning its wheels, uh, and trying to figure out what they wanted to do.

37:28.53
Tony Sisk
um But I think we were talking off air before we actually came on podcast about the very, the, the end scene where you talked about the, their name being the Avengers or the new Avengers, right? Jaime.

37:47.71
Jaime G 
Yep, I said that.

37:49.15
Tony Sisk
Right. Now the Thunderboats name came from her sock, uh, Yelena's, uh, girl's soccer team. Right.

37:58.20
Sentfrmheaven
Where somebody took a poo in the middle the field.

38:02.30
Jaime G 
Yes.

38:04.33
Tony Sisk
Right. but But then people ah were calling them the New Avengers. And then Sam Wilson, Captain America, is suing them for the name.

38:19.98
Tony Sisk
So are they then are they the New Avengers? Or is there going to be a whole separate... Is they kind is there actually going to be like... an Avengers team under Captain America. And then this Avengers team, where going to go back to their Thunderboats name.

38:37.02
Jaime G 
Okay, that depends on on where they they they take this. In the main comic book line, there was two Avengers teams at one point. It was the east of East Coast and West Coast Avengers.

38:49.61
Jaime G 
they want to They might want to go there. they might They might go back and say, okay, we're the Thunderbolts with a Z.

38:57.42
Sentfrmheaven
right with

38:59.08
Jaime G 
Yeah. it did I don't know, man. But I'm um happy to that at the end we saw that they're going to come back. I'm always like, yeah.

39:09.95
Tony Sisk
Yeah, they they definitely makes me wonder, like at the the very last end credit scene where they're seeing, you know, the the the ship descending into the atmosphere makes me wonder, do they show up in that movie, which is only a couple of months away at some point at the end or something?

39:35.24
Jaime G 
No, because the the Fantastic Four movie is going to be self-contained and it probably ends with them saying like, we need to go somewhere else because we can't beat Galactus. Prediction time right here.

39:47.51
Jaime G 
We got to come back with reinforcements.

39:52.89
Tony Sisk
Okay.

39:53.04
Jaime G 
And there you go.

39:53.52
Tony Sisk
Do they come back though?

39:54.25
Jaime G 
Hotline. I don't see them stepping away from the hole.

39:56.72
Tony Sisk
Because that's what, this is what we were getting about. We were talking about last week about, okay, we need to settle on a timeline.

40:03.77
Jaime G 
Yeah. Yeah.

40:03.97
Tony Sisk
Stop jumping around.

40:06.63
Jaime G 
They got to come back. They're not going to leave a whole... Well, Deadpool almost left the whole universe to be like...

40:13.74
Tony Sisk
Well, I mean, how do you get back? Which one, which movie was it? The Marvels where Captain Rambo got, trapped on the other side of that tear and yeah how do you get yeah and and she ended up in the in the timeline that has like mutants right so like how do you get back

40:27.34
Jaime G 
Yeah, it was that one.

40:27.70
Sentfrmheaven
yeah the cats i mean they would leave them you see it didn't uh

40:30.80
Jaime G 
Horrible movie.

40:39.34
Jaime G 
Yeah.

40:47.50
Tony Sisk
yeah

40:50.76
Tony Sisk
yep

40:53.55
Sentfrmheaven
back to the, back to the, something that i was up there thinking about randomly, you know, like, but they're all, you know, getting set up to fight each other. I'm like, so did everybody walk, or I'm like, because there was not one vehicle out there to be like, hmm, somebody's already here, you know, it's like, everybody just like showed up, and I'm like, how'd y'all get there?

41:12.77
Sentfrmheaven
You know, like, did y'all fly in, like,

41:16.28
Tony Sisk
Well, they probably had transportation from, provided by Valentina.

41:22.15
Sentfrmheaven
oh, yeah.

41:23.50
Tony Sisk
Because, you know, they theoretically were working for her, you know, as black ops. So I'm sure she provided them with transportation to get to the ambush site.

41:40.83
Tony Sisk
Makes you wonder why she just didn't blow up that transportation for each of them on the way.

41:46.41
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, right. That'll make more sense.

41:49.92
Tony Sisk
Right? Like,

41:53.49
Tony Sisk
You know i mean peter yeah ever wondered, you ever thought yourself, what if were supervillain?

42:02.39
Jaime G 
That the the the the world would be a better place.

42:08.66
Tony Sisk
That's some Thanos thinking right there.

42:14.10
Sentfrmheaven
Right. True. True.

42:16.57
Tony Sisk
He's just making the universe a better place for everybody.

42:17.29
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

42:20.58
Tony Sisk
that's what That's why he was such a compelling villain.

42:21.26
Jaime G 
Yeah.

42:24.49
Jaime G 
Yeah, I mean, at some level, do you to agree.

42:25.06
Tony Sisk
Because there's... Yeah. He's kind of speaking the truth.

42:29.52
Jaime G 
Yeah, you agree with him.

42:32.12
Tony Sisk
Right?

42:34.56
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, because I'm like, if I was a villain, there would be no prisons. There would be some remote island with cannibals.

42:45.71
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

42:46.55
Jaime G 
Survival Island, man.

42:48.05
Sentfrmheaven
Right. We're going to drop you on this island, no boat. So hey, good luck.

42:54.09
Tony Sisk
That would be like a... Man, there was a video game that just got released here recently. that's what That was the theme of the game. was like Was it like villains?

43:06.19
Tony Sisk
Was it villains or you it was like a game show? You could like sign up and go... was like a Battle Royale on an island. But they didn't bother to tell the people that lived on the island that this was going to be going on.

43:20.30
Tony Sisk
it was just like

43:20.65
Jaime G 
i'm not I'm not remembering this.

43:24.77
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I don't remember with the name of it. You know, games come and go nowadays.

43:31.67
Tony Sisk
So. But I was and think it was a free-to-play game, too. So check your free-to-play game section on your PlayStation.

43:39.35
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, right.

43:42.85
Tony Sisk
you And just read the summaries. You'll probably see the one we're talking about.

43:49.15
Tony Sisk
But yeah. That'd be interesting. That'd be interesting. Drop everybody in hollum and find it out to get off.

43:57.42
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

43:57.53
Jaime G 
yeah

44:02.50
Tony Sisk
All right. Well, any final verdicts far the movie? ah let's ah

44:12.50
Jaime G 
Go watch this movie.

44:12.70
Tony Sisk
as far as the movie

44:14.26
Jaime G 
It's probably the best thing that Marvel has put out in a long while.

44:21.62
Sentfrmheaven
e

44:23.73
Tony Sisk
Yep.

44:23.85
Sentfrmheaven
yeah Yeah, I agree. And I think, ah you' like I said, if they go in the right direction, I think they can get a couple of good stories out this.

44:34.09
Tony Sisk
Oh yeah, I agree.

44:34.81
Jaime G 
Yeah.

44:35.71
Tony Sisk
It's, it's pretty amazing. ah Like a basic story. something with a plot line that's not too overly complex. There's not like super great dialogue.

44:46.41
Jaime G 
yeah

44:48.59
Tony Sisk
There's some good dialogue near the end. But yeah, if it's told right, just, you know, good presentation, good pacing, a good actor to kind of anchor it, which I give credit to Florence Pugh again for what she did with her character and ah ah Harbor, who played the Red Guardian, he did a great job.

45:16.74
Jaime G 
he He crushed it, man.

45:17.49
Tony Sisk
Probably my favorite character. i just don't believe he's capable of anything other than telling jokes, though.

45:19.91
Sentfrmheaven
yeah

45:22.77
Jaime G 
Yeah.

45:22.85
Sentfrmheaven
right

45:24.16
Tony Sisk
He he hes here socalled supposedly has the Russian version of the ah Super Soldier Serum.

45:24.24
Jaime G 
That is, hey, that's a superpower too.

45:31.73
Jaime G 
super Super soldier.

45:35.58
Tony Sisk
I mean, he could he definitely could take a lick.

45:35.99
Sentfrmheaven
yeah yeah was this is funny too because at the end like

45:40.19
Tony Sisk
But...

45:46.57
Sentfrmheaven
That lady in grocery store was a good actress. But he's got the Weedie box. If she takes it, it drops it at the end of the eye.

45:52.26
Jaime G 
Yeah.

45:55.06
Sentfrmheaven
that' so I was like, I like that. like But that's me on the box.

46:00.95
Sentfrmheaven
I

46:01.59
Tony Sisk
Right. The glory. um

46:05.36
Sentfrmheaven
finally got on the Weedie box. Yeah.

46:07.94
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so there's great characters. I'm not so sure. Was there a character that you're not so sure about, though? On this team.

46:16.71
Jaime G 
I mean, Ghost was the one that I felt like was more like just there, right? Her best scenes is when she's not on screen.

46:25.53
Tony Sisk
Mm hmm.

46:29.47
Tony Sisk
Right. I would agree.

46:31.28
Jaime G 
i mean, that

46:31.73
Tony Sisk
I think Ghost, for what they had her doing, which wasn't a whole lot acting-wise, but she was kind of like the one who she was able to like get out of the situation and she could have just left.

46:37.61
Jaime G 
ah hu

46:47.94
Jaime G 
Right.

46:48.19
Tony Sisk
Right? I think there's two separate instances with her that way, right? They thought that she left and she came back and actually...

46:52.63
Jaime G 
but But that's the thing. She just disappears, right and all a sudden, she's back.

46:57.84
Tony Sisk
Right. Right.

46:59.43
Jaime G 
I mean, they don't even show, like here's what happens when she's out out here, like taking down some guards, stealing cars.

47:04.73
Sentfrmheaven
what

47:05.83
Jaime G 
It's just, she's back. I think it was a way to save dinero on and some of the production.

47:12.16
Tony Sisk
Right.

47:13.76
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. day and Because because like when it first happens, I can understand it because you're trying to show that they're trying to build trust, like when she leaves and opens the door whatever. But now when you start doing it every other time, it's like, okay, what's she doing? Yeah.

47:28.78
Sentfrmheaven
ah You know, because it because while they were, you know, waiting, like I said, it would have been interesting to see how did she get the truck, where did she get the truck from, you know, like when they were going to escape whatever like that.

47:43.78
Jaime G 
Yeah, and and nothing.

47:44.06
Tony Sisk
yeah.

47:45.15
Jaime G 
You're just left to imagine that all this happened. And I think there were several things in the movie where I was like, they did this to save some money. they Remember that very one scene when they'll get in the elevator and and Walker's like, give me a second.

48:00.96
Jaime G 
like and he And you know he's about to jump real fast. The camera was kind of like tilting or panning in a different direction. all sudden, he just jumped. like Next scene, you're just seeing him come down. That's a They cut corners in many places to kind of like do save time on editing or special effects or whatever.

48:19.84
Tony Sisk
Yeah. um It wasn't too over the top with the special effects.

48:24.00
Jaime G 
Right, exactly. And if if they had done more stuff with Ghost, you know, they would have had to rely more.

48:26.86
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

48:27.11
Sentfrmheaven
Thank

48:28.87
Tony Sisk
I mean, their special effect, their special effect was to show a shadow moving across New York. Like, literally, like, shadow puppet, you know?

48:37.01
Jaime G 
right

48:39.73
Tony Sisk
Here, just do this he hand number over the map.

48:45.52
Jaime G 
but Extend your hand like this and shake it a little bit.

48:48.20
Tony Sisk
yeah

48:50.71
Tony Sisk
But ah yeah, but it's a well-made movie. the The writers, one of the writers, i don't know what his name was, but one of the main writers on this has done some really, really of some of the best Marvel movies.

49:06.50
Tony Sisk
So hopefully he continues to head up these future projects. All right, yeah. So great movie, highly entertaining.

49:19.84
Tony Sisk
Go check it out. get up to that 800 million.

49:21.41
Jaime G 
Tony approved.

49:23.72
Tony Sisk
We need that 800 million box office. That way I can win this prediction but that I mean, I had last week.

49:32.20
Jaime G 
Yeah.

49:34.33
Tony Sisk
You said 600 million. I said 600 million and one.

49:36.30
Jaime G 
I said 600. Yeah. You did. Yeah.

49:39.04
Tony Sisk
No, I think I adjusted it right to like 800,000, 800 million something.

49:41.01
Jaime G 
you did you did i think it?

49:44.67
Tony Sisk
Nope. No price is right.

49:45.78
Jaime G 
think its i think it already did two hundred didn't it

49:49.56
Tony Sisk
Did it? Let's see.

49:55.88
Tony Sisk
What did this movie do?

49:59.47
Tony Sisk
Thunderboats.

50:10.15
Tony Sisk
million dollars opening weekend. That's pretty good. I'm sure that's US only.

50:15.00
Jaime G 
That's US only.

50:20.48
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, so far it's 162 globally. know. going

50:23.87
Tony Sisk
okay

50:24.93
Jaime G 
There you go. So usually on the second week, it's going to have some fall off. So if 160 is the highest that it's going to make next weekend, it will probably go down like to 120 and then to like maybe 90, and then maybe 60.

50:44.14
Tony Sisk
I don't know.

50:44.84
Sentfrmheaven
to let you know.

50:45.48
Tony Sisk
I think you'll have some like people going back to see it a second time. and Word of mouth. like One of the guys at work asked him before the movie be released, was he going to go see this movie? because I know he's a Marvel fan. and He's like, no, I'm not going watch.

50:59.69
Tony Sisk
I'm interested Thunderbolts. ah He asked me after I saw the movie how I liked it. i thought I thought it was great. Then later on in day, he's like, I think I'm going watch a Thunderbolts movie.

51:15.05
Tony Sisk
So, you know, word of mouth, word of mouth. It's powerful.

51:20.68
Jaime G 
Rotten Tomatoes score is 88%.

51:21.22
Tony Sisk
Especially.

51:25.49
Tony Sisk
That's pretty good.

51:26.92
Jaime G 
It's pretty good.

51:27.18
Sentfrmheaven
Pretty good.

51:28.18
Tony Sisk
Pretty good. I think that you, I think that's the score you said 88. eighty eight i think I said like 81.

51:35.04
Jaime G 
I don't know, man. i I probably think I said 80. Because you were trying to like $1 up me every time.

51:47.40
Tony Sisk
Well, you can always go back and listen to the podcast, but last week's podcast, in in the and figure it out.

51:47.45
Sentfrmheaven
Price is right.

51:55.40
Tony Sisk
But i think I think he did say upper eighty s

51:58.94
Jaime G 
I got to see now. I can't remember.

52:05.98
Jaime G 
don't know, man. I'm right up about a bunch of things, but this one's probably not one that I think I'm right on.

52:15.71
Tony Sisk
All right. Well, thanks ah for getting together. It's good to see again, Vance. Getting back on here and giving your input.

52:24.33
Sentfrmheaven
Oh yeah. Like riding a bike.

52:27.92
Tony Sisk
Yep. Going to get back into it. We've had some pretty good numbers here recently. I was just telling the Jaime, you know, we had, you know, pretty good download numbers over the last few weeks. So hopefully, uh,

52:43.52
Tony Sisk
That continues the trend. Yes, sir.

52:46.86
Jaime G 
Hey, something something I want to share before we wrap up this episode. For anybody who's been listening to us, You'll remember that last year, Tony, he picked a couple of games for the 2024 game drafting. He was crushed, guys, just crushed.

53:05.16
Jaime G 
I mean, for a couple of evenings, he wasn't, you know, he didn't want to go to bed and then he didn't want to go to work. And, you know, it was just what one of these conversations where we're just like, Tony, Tony, come on, man.

53:13.01
Tony Sisk
That's but's every day. I don't go to bed and i definitely don't want to go to work.

53:17.81
Jaime G 
Anyway, I'm one of those guys that's always looking for deals. And Tony, I saw a really good deal and I thought of you. And I said, this one game was the one that crushed Tony's morale last year. So I bought a game just for you, my friend.

53:35.27
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

53:36.00
Jaime G 
And just so you know, and you guys can't see this, but you I have a copy in my hand for Pacific Drive Deluxe Edition just for you, man.

53:39.78
Tony Sisk
ah Oh, you got the physical version. and

53:46.78
Jaime G 
I saw it like crazy cheap. I think I got this for 15 bucks. And this was probably the game that made you lose the draft last year.

53:58.04
Jaime G 
So next time I see you, man, or if we ever if we catch up the next couple of days, this is this is yours, my friend.

53:58.20
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

54:04.30
Tony Sisk
Oh, ah ah loserss ah The loser's trophy.

54:04.54
Jaime G 
Hopefully, we can help you you know overcome the void.

54:12.93
Tony Sisk
right

54:12.98
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, well,

54:13.98
Tony Sisk
We're going to put that in. that the The lowest scoring game gets ah gifted to you a

54:15.78
Jaime G 
and

54:20.66
Sentfrmheaven
yeah ah

54:21.45
Jaime G 
I don't know. I don't know.

54:22.12
Sentfrmheaven
drag

54:22.53
Jaime G 
I just saw it and I was like, well, it's it's cheap, right? It meets my criteria.

54:25.95
Tony Sisk
Oh, thank you.

54:26.75
Jaime G 
tearia So better luck next year, my friend.

54:27.31
Tony Sisk
Appreciate it. All right. Yeah. I don't think I'm having a great year this time. either

54:38.60
Sentfrmheaven
hey well

54:38.78
Tony Sisk
But whoever picked GTA, yeah.

54:41.23
Sentfrmheaven
Man, I was going to say that. I was about to say that.

54:42.90
Tony Sisk
Whoever picked gta Man.

54:45.77
Sentfrmheaven
See, I was all safe. I was like, I was all safe.

54:48.69
Tony Sisk
See, that's why that's, it's a good thing. You can drop one.

54:53.33
Jaime G 
Yeah, right? That was a new rule.

54:53.89
Tony Sisk
Cause you're going be dropping that GTA. Yeah. He got pushed back to 2026.

54:57.78
Jaime G 
Dude,

54:58.39
Tony Sisk
Oh, I

54:59.55
Jaime G 
with the games going as high as Nintendo Switch is going to start off, I'd be surprised if GTA doesn't reach the $100 mark. Mm-hmm.

55:09.62
Tony Sisk
um i thought about that today. It's going, it's going over the hundred dollar mark. <unk>re They're just going to say, they're going to say, ah, let's go for it.

55:14.51
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, yeah.

55:14.72
Jaime G 
Absolutely.

55:15.55
Sentfrmheaven
you

55:18.22
Tony Sisk
125. Let's all in. 125. mean,

55:22.23
Jaime G 
ah Let's go all in on this one.

55:24.10
Tony Sisk
let's go all in one twenty five i mean

55:27.11
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

55:27.32
Tony Sisk
Why not?

55:27.91
Sentfrmheaven
And I mean, yeah. And if you're a person that you know you're going to play GTA a lot, you might as well because, I mean, you figure they're probably going to have some type of some type of battle pass in there or whatever.

55:38.36
Sentfrmheaven
you know what saying? Skins and all this other type stuff.

55:40.51
Jaime G 
Good.

55:41.34
Sentfrmheaven
Like, yeah, it's going to crazy.

55:42.56
Jaime G 
GTA 5 was a PlayStation 3 era day game. And people are still buying it.

55:51.77
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, I mean, don't know how much the old game goes for, but, you know, it's got to be better than the new new games. They're all going to be 80 plus dollars.

56:04.69
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Yeah. I'm like, and people, and people have the nerve to say, Oh, you know, you're still gaming. First of all, gaming is not for kids. You show me a little kid running around here with $80 in a pocket to buy a game. ah It's not for kids.

56:20.20
Sentfrmheaven
Okay. Yeah.

56:23.69
Jaime G 
third my My my birthday's coming up and he's like, Dad, I'm going to get for you Mega Man Legacy Collection. was like, oh, that's not the game that I won, son.

56:36.76
Jaime G 
But okay, you know, I'll buy. He's like, Dad, can you lend me 25 bucks? I'm like, what?

56:43.66
Sentfrmheaven
ah do i Right saying a

56:44.73
Tony Sisk
All right. All

56:48.10
Jaime G 
So I'm going to buy me the game that I don't want so you can give it to me.

56:53.29
Sentfrmheaven
right right now, say, do you need money for the card and the cake too? Or or you he just need money for the game? Yeah.

57:00.73
Tony Sisk
right.

57:05.43
Sentfrmheaven
yeah Yeah, so as punishment, I made my son buy the snacks, you know. And I said, see, and, you know, he gets the popcorn. I said, hey, man, get what you want. Yeah, want the large popcorn.

57:16.67
Sentfrmheaven
He's putting all this butter and stuff on there.

57:18.03
Jaime G 
Yeah.

57:19.17
Sentfrmheaven
And he eats, like, two handfuls. And I'm like, see, that's why I had use your money. You know what saying? Like, you're going to review. If I had bottle, you're going to wearing that popcorn. I didn't like the taste. I'm glad you used your money, you know.

57:31.70
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.

57:31.90
Tony Sisk
Yeah. All right. Well, thanks again for joining me for tonight.

57:40.19
Tony Sisk
For the listeners, thanks for joining and listening. Again, check out Discord link in the show description. Join a Discord channel. Join the community there. see See what everybody's playing.

57:55.71
Tony Sisk
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58:02.30
Jaime G 
Yeah.

58:04.94
Tony Sisk
Right. All right. I'll catch you guys later. right.

58:08.70
Sentfrmheaven
All right, later, fellas.

58:09.04
Jaime G 
See guys. Bye.