Xbox Strategy and I Finally Watched the First Season of Andor

Jaime and Tony discuss some PS Plus games they've been playing. Plus, Xbox shifts away from consoles and how Gamepass is set up for success. Tony finally watches Andor Season One and gives his opinion on what all the hype has been about.

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00:00.21
Jaime G 
Dad, why is it that you don't play these games? I'm like, well, because A, you're playing. B, I'm working. He's like, well, just get up earlier and play and play in the mornings. I'm like, son, I'm what but i'm up at 5 a.m.

00:13.50
Jaime G 
m every day. What do you think I'm doing in the mornings?

00:14.73
Tony Sisk
Come on, Jaime, you can get up earlier than that.

00:18.56
Jaime G 
No. I mean, the alarm goes at 4.30. I don't get out of bed till 5.00.

00:25.54
Jaime G 
five And then I'm like, son, at that time, I'm praying, I'm doing my devotionals. I mean, I'm not going stop that to play. I mean, I'd like to, but it wouldn't be right.

00:39.31
Tony Sisk
Right?

00:40.61
Jaime G 
Yeah.

00:41.11
Tony Sisk
That's funny. Well, I can't get up any earlier than I'm already getting up.

00:45.29
Jaime G 
ah Dude, you're you're sometimes going to work at 3 a.m., so I know.

00:49.22
Tony Sisk
of Right. But, i you know, I do get, ah you know, 10 minutes or so in on the bus on my Steam Deck. I carry that around with me, so.

00:59.05
Jaime G 
yeah

01:01.11
Tony Sisk
I, that's mainly where i've did most of my playing of Slay the Spire, was on the bus to and from work.

01:14.02
Tony Sisk
So, what's that?

01:14.34
Jaime G 
Oh, you know what I did play? I set myself a goal to play every month one of the PS Plus games and spen and spend some time like you know getting familiar with it.

01:21.41
Tony Sisk
There you go.

01:27.84
Jaime G 
I played Robocop, Rogue City.

01:31.98
Tony Sisk
Okay, I think you mentioned a little bit about that ah last week. a and your I can't remember what you said about it, whether not it was okay or and not.

01:43.48
Jaime G 
Well, the only thing i will say again and I'll repeat it is that it really, I feel that it really recreates the vibe of the old movie.

01:56.08
Tony Sisk
Okay. Okay.

01:56.78
Jaime G 
it's it It actually does does get me in some places like, yeah, this is how the movie was. The police station going to the firing range.

02:05.85
Tony Sisk
It's kind of funny because like a clip, a Robocop clip popped up on my YouTube feed a few days ago.

02:17.82
Tony Sisk
I don't know why, but it was a scene where he is in the factory. He gets separated from his partner and the the in the the the villains have him there and they shoot his hand off and then they you know they shoot they shoot him up full of bullets and stuff. It's that scene.

02:36.08
Tony Sisk
It was pretty like, ah you know, violent. thinking when this came out in like 19, what, mid

02:45.54
Jaime G 
And the the version that that ended up in the movie theaters was the one that they would let them release at the time.

02:54.73
Tony Sisk
yeah

02:56.05
Jaime G 
Because it really was too intense for, like that the original version was much more intense.

03:03.57
Tony Sisk
Oh yeah, it was it was a very intense scene. um You could see his hand like just disintegrate you know when they shot it with the shotgun.

03:08.40
Jaime G 
Just... Well, you know that it was the same guy from Starship Troopers, right?

03:18.49
Tony Sisk
Which one?

03:20.61
Jaime G 
It's the same director.

03:22.70
Tony Sisk
Oh, the same director. I'm like, and don't remember anybody in the Robocop in the Starship Troopers, unless it was one of those guys who was like... ah think the the lieutenant or the sergeant that was in charge of Rico's unit.

03:39.22
Tony Sisk
that He was one of them and I don't recognize him.

03:39.74
Jaime G 
All right, so so was directed by Paul Verhoeven.

03:43.62
Tony Sisk
Mm-hmm.

03:44.91
Jaime G 
And on his belt, he's got RoboCop in 1987, movie called Black Book, ah L, and Starship Troopers.

04:03.25
Tony Sisk
Starship Troopers cult classic. It's one of those movies when you're flipping through in the middle of the night, you're going to stop on and just, Oh, know what?

04:06.79
Jaime G 
Oh, he.

04:11.43
Tony Sisk
I'm going to watch this.

04:12.95
Jaime G 
You know which other one? He directed Total Recall, the original one.

04:18.14
Tony Sisk
and Okay.

04:18.31
Jaime G 
And Hollow Man with Kevin Bacon.

04:21.66
Tony Sisk
but I don't ever, I don't remember ever watching hollow man, but total recall. Definitely. That was back when Schwarzenegger was, man, he was pumping out all the action movies.

04:31.91
Jaime G 
Oh, yeah, that was in his prime, dude.

04:34.87
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but yeah, Total Recall That was when they were on Mars, right? And they had, he had been ah had his ah memory erased And they were keeping like him under control And like his like a Truman-esque ah life You know?

04:52.22
Jaime G 
Yeah.

04:53.94
Tony Sisk
That was a good show Right

04:54.33
Jaime G 
and then And then plot twist, he was the bad guy.

04:59.72
Tony Sisk
ah right yeah

05:03.29
Tony Sisk
I forgot that. I forgot that he was the bad guy.

05:06.81
Jaime G 
He was the bad guy, but yet he had been the good guy for so long that he was like, I'd rather be the good guy. and like So he he's like a triple agent, I guess.

05:17.80
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

05:20.57
Tony Sisk
Good movie. I liked it. His movies were always fun. we need We need something like that now.

05:24.76
Jaime G 
Well, yeah, back in the day.

05:26.45
Tony Sisk
like We don't really have that going on right now. i can't think of any

05:32.92
Tony Sisk
any movie characters that we have, I don't, John Wick, maybe,

05:40.42
Tony Sisk
but like, nothing approaching like what, what Schwarzenegger was doing, ah no, what, ah The Rock, The Rock had a bunch of movies out, what, 10 years ago, 7, 18 years ago,

05:45.55
Jaime G 
No.

05:53.23
Jaime G 
ah Yeah, but but The ah Rock is... I think his ego has gotten the best of him.

06:01.54
Tony Sisk
Yeah, he's his not had a good run here lately. a lot of, you know, just meh, meh, meh.

06:08.31
Jaime G 
Yeah.

06:13.59
Jaime G 
Muh. After Black Adam, I think it just... Muh.

06:21.14
Tony Sisk
Yeah, and yeah, Black Adam, we were talking about that before we started recording.

06:25.76
Jaime G 
Yeah.

06:26.04
Tony Sisk
One of the DC movies. You know, when we were talking about, you know, has DC their, what do we call it, their universe been profitable for them whatever?

06:36.61
Jaime G 
The DCU.

06:38.34
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Black Adam was awful.

06:43.47
Tony Sisk
Did not like him. Like him, like, oh man, he he ruined that movie.

06:49.14
Jaime G 
that That's what saying. So the the rock actually ruined the movie. I mean, he's ruined a lot of movies for himself.

06:57.96
Tony Sisk
Right. But, um... So, yeah, you were, uh, that was your PS Plus game. Robocop, did you play any other ones?

07:08.67
Jaime G 
No, no, no, no i I've decided to play just one game and give it, give it a fair run. And I have played a lot of the RoboCop game.

07:13.87
Tony Sisk
No. No.

07:16.38
Jaime G 
I just haven't in the last week. But it turned out to be better than I expected. I mean, that's one of those games that you're quick to dismiss and say, ah, this game's no good.

07:29.09
Jaime G 
Well, I was wrong. it It should get some of your attention.

07:30.69
Tony Sisk
yeah

07:35.15
Tony Sisk
okay yeah i mean added it added it to my my library why not but um yeah like you said there was a game i don't it wasn't it's not this month's game i think it was the previous month's game that i played on ps plus blueprints i think it's what it's called did you see that one

07:40.75
Jaime G 
Like you should, yeah.

07:56.06
Jaime G 
Uh-uh. Aha.

07:57.74
Tony Sisk
Okay. So that one is pretty interesting. Um, the premise behind it is you, you, were the nephew of this, you know wealthy person who's passed and he's left you basically his estate, uh, on, but there's a condition to having full inheritance.

08:24.59
Tony Sisk
He has defined,

08:29.20
Tony Sisk
Let me back up. I guess in his youth, you used to go there a lot during the summers and stuff. And you would play games like riddles and stuff like that with the uncle.

08:42.81
Tony Sisk
he liked He was like a crypto person. So he would always come up with the puzzles and stuff he'd work on, whatever. So now that he's passed...

08:54.38
Tony Sisk
He's awarded you his estate, but in order to get the estate, you have to find, I can't remember what room, it's the 44th room or something, um in the and the estate. It's a hidden room.

09:13.81
Tony Sisk
So... ah When you show up, you go in and you have a choice of pathways you can go. You go to the the the east wing, the west wing, or the north wing of the estate.

09:28.62
Tony Sisk
But the rooms change every day. So its think of it as like a roguelike, but where instead of a dungeon or something like that, it's just rooms and the rooms are different every day and there's different puzzles and riddles and stuff and you have to put them together in kind of like a puzzle order there's like a grid that you're filling out ah with the rooms so you you open them a room and then you have a choice of what room

09:59.67
Tony Sisk
you'll get to a branching pathway. You have a choice of different rooms you can pick from.

10:04.75
Jaime G 
ah hu

10:05.30
Tony Sisk
And you, you, you can see like the direction, like, okay, this room goes in and then there's a door to the right. Right. So if you're placing that room in your grid, you wouldn't want to place that room in the very far left.

10:19.63
Tony Sisk
No, in the very far right of the, of the grid, because the door would end nowhere.

10:21.22
Jaime G 
Far right, because yeah.

10:24.47
Tony Sisk
Right. So you have to place the, it's like a, you're building a labyrinth, But you're doing it by solving the puzzles and you're trying to build this kind of, you know, snaking grid around.

10:36.47
Tony Sisk
And I'm assuming that there's just enough grid space to fit 44 rooms. So ah that's the, that's the object game is to win your inheritance by finding that 44th room, placing it or building out your mansion.

10:57.49
Tony Sisk
And it changes every day.

10:57.89
Jaime G 
Uh-huh.

10:58.57
Tony Sisk
And you only have so many what's called steps that you can take. So you have like 50 steps. And you can add to steps by, you know, finding things or whatever.

11:10.73
Tony Sisk
But anytime you backtrack, whatever, you lose steps. So, you know, when you go forward, you lose steps. So you have to be efficient with your steps.

11:21.74
Jaime G 
ah

11:23.04
Tony Sisk
So that's the game. I've played that for a couple of days. It's pretty unique. It's a unique game. I was enjoying it. I just... It was a ah um Mind... Mind bender, basically. Like... It involved a lot of heavy thinking.

11:43.30
Tony Sisk
We'll say that. I'm thinking, do I really want to think this So... and

11:50.95
Jaime G 
All so i I was reading up but on this. I did remember seeing this game pop up on the feed, and and I thought to myself, do I really want to play this?

12:05.77
Tony Sisk
right i mean yeah it's it's only going to appeal to probably a certain you know certain people i mean most people might try it and then like be like oh man this is this hurt my head so but you know but people who play like sudoku or something like that you know they'll probably love this type of game it's just

12:28.19
Jaime G 
Well, speaking of, speaking of, Bellatro was a PlayStation Plus game.

12:34.35
Tony Sisk
Yep, I saw it. I saved it to my library. i um I'm wanting to play it. I'm wanting to play it. Just haven't done it yet.

12:46.38
Tony Sisk
so

12:46.49
Jaime G 
OK, here's the difference between this and Blueprints. Bellatro, you're going to get a match. You're going to go into a match. You're in and out in 10 minutes.

12:59.61
Jaime G 
probably Probably less if you suck.

12:59.77
Tony Sisk
Oh yeah, this is not... Yeah. This is not, yeah, no, Blueprints is not in and out in 10 minutes.

13:07.44
Jaime G 
Yeah.

13:07.42
Tony Sisk
like It's going to get progressively longer every time. Like, as you as you have a better understanding of the mechanics of the game, it's you're going to get further in, and it's going to be it's not going to be a 10-minute session.

13:22.77
Tony Sisk
It's going to be, you know, 45 minutes.

13:24.82
Jaime G 
I have been wanting to play RoboCop until the point where I encounter a Net 209.

13:33.19
Tony Sisk
Okay.

13:33.45
Jaime G 
and then run for my life.

13:37.46
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

13:40.47
Jaime G 
But I don't know. I'm going to keep on playing one PlayStation Plus game every month and just be like, let me play it.

13:50.68
Tony Sisk
and Okay.

13:51.25
Jaime G 
And dude, dude,

13:54.84
Jaime G 
yeah we what is Xbox thinking, Tony? They're going to complain we're not selling consoles, yet we're jacking the price up.

14:07.95
Tony Sisk
I mean, I don't know if they're complaining or not. I don't, I think that's their plan. I don't think they want to sell consoles. This is not their, like the console thing is not, is not their thing anymore.

14:22.53
Tony Sisk
and I know that's breaking the hearts of all the console warriors out there that champion Xbox and they really champion them hard this, this generation.

14:32.58
Jaime G 
there's There's some people that stand behind Xbox ah even when they know they shouldn't.

14:37.71
Tony Sisk
Now, yeah but um but But they're standing behind The console, right?

14:39.98
Jaime G 
Uh-huh.

14:43.08
Tony Sisk
it's It was like Chevy versus Ford You know I'm saying? like It was the machine That's what, like the console war Is about the machine Right?

14:54.77
Tony Sisk
And But Xbox is not playing that. that though They're not engaging in that. They don't care about that.

15:02.81
Jaime G 
Nope. Nope.

15:03.26
Tony Sisk
like Not to say that PlayStation is, but PlayStation cares more about the console than anything else. like That is there be their cornerstone of their business is the console.

15:17.45
Tony Sisk
Xbox, the cornerstone of their business is Game Pass. So... Making the consoles more expensive, does it ah just it's not that big a deal to them, especially now that they've gone third-party publishing.

15:33.26
Jaime G 
I still eyes still struggle with their thought process. It's just me, but I'm like, what are y'all thinking?

15:43.03
Tony Sisk
It's not hurting them. like They had a very successful quarter. they They were making it they're making a ton of money. Just selling software And amazingly they're selling most of us a lot of that software On Sony Consoles So It's They've become a publisher That just happens to have a console For now But like You can play on PC Like literally PC is the best place to play

15:57.54
Jaime G 
Yeah, yeah.

16:16.34
Tony Sisk
ah For Xbox people Like you can have a better machine You can Yeah you can play all their stuff Over there you know All the Xbox stuff is you it's you know It's on PC and know some of Sony's stuff Comes to PC eventually I mean PC is probably Going to be the last man standing when it's all said And done Sony's probably going to go You know what let's just become a publisher too

16:21.58
Jaime G 
For those people. All right.

16:44.54
Tony Sisk
console era is coming to an end you know in the next 10 years probably and that's the only thing that I will say is everybody's going handheld and everybody will go handheld

16:50.85
Jaime G 
yeah

16:59.16
Jaime G 
oh Oh, there's a rumor. yeah And again, I don't subscribe to these rumors, but that PlayStation is considering another handheld.

17:09.97
Tony Sisk
yeah I don't know why it's taking them so long Like a true handheld, like not the one that you bought where you have you know tie pie into your PlayStation. You have to have the PlayStation.

17:20.44
Jaime G 
oh no, no, no. Yeah.

17:22.20
Tony Sisk
You have to have the PlayStation and use that handheld. they Where's the handheld that just does its own thing? Like the Steam Deck, you know, like I have the Steam Deck. It's great. Of course, Nintendo is, you know, got the Switch. so or Switch 2 coming up.

17:39.99
Tony Sisk
So... Xbox is talking about coming out with a con oh handheld. Handheld is is is the is the future.

17:48.46
Jaime G 
I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't necessarily... ah think that maybe Xbox has has been like saying that for a while, but Xbox doesn't have... Again, it's it's not their market. It's not what they want to sell.

18:05.46
Tony Sisk
Well, if if they can make their games play on a Switch, nop I'm sure they'll be happy with that. If they can get their games on Nintendo, that would be amazing.

18:13.69
Jaime G 
Yes. Yes. The day that you can get

18:17.83
Tony Sisk
To me, I'm like, if you're a Sony exec, you should be entering into a partnership with Nintendo. Like, you have to build your own console.

18:25.25
Jaime G 
Yeah.

18:28.45
Tony Sisk
Just get into a partnership with ah Nintendo and put your stuff on Nintendo. That's 115 million Switch there. Then, no telling me, Switch are coming online. so tell how many switch tos are coming on a line so

18:44.22
Jaime G 
Speaking of the Switch 1, I just had my 10-year work anniversary actually yesterday. And they send you like a voucher and like, yay pick one of these gifts.

18:55.61
Jaime G 
And the Switch is in it.

18:57.66
Tony Sisk
um Nice

18:58.13
Jaime G 
And and my my wife's like, well, grab that. You game, right? I'm like, yeah, but do I really want to pick up ah a Switch now that it's a Switch Lite, by the way?

19:09.58
Jaime G 
Do I really want to pick up one right now that it's on its way out?

19:14.56
Tony Sisk
Switch to save was it it's 450

19:16.87
Jaime G 
Yeah.

19:17.61
Tony Sisk
six hundred was it it's four fifty Right now, ah ah ah ah the price is only going to go up. like You're not going to get a cheaper price. like The launch prices are the cheaper prices because the way like just ah manufacturing and tariffs are working in the world right now, everything is just going up.

19:44.28
Jaime G 
I have a conspiracy theory there. The reason why the initial batch is going to be cheaper for for the for the immediate future is because they already have a couple thousand, I mean, 100,000 units that are already stateside.

20:01.65
Jaime G 
They're sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

20:03.90
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

20:05.08
Jaime G 
And they didn't have to pay tariffs for those.

20:08.08
Tony Sisk
Right.

20:09.64
Jaime G 
The moment that they're like, okay, now we're being hit with this, it's going to, Mr. Consumer, there you go.

20:16.49
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I mean.

20:18.41
Jaime G 
I'm going to say this. i On principle, I don't want to get a Nintendo Switch 2 because, A, it's too expensive.

20:20.15
Tony Sisk
yeah

20:24.42
Jaime G 
It's not as powerful as the other consoles out there. And they're the first ones that are putting games that are like now at the $80 mark.

20:34.24
Tony Sisk
Nintendo, yeah.

20:35.74
Jaime G 
yeah but Remember me a couple of years ago that I said, Nintendo is the only company that breaks all the rules and they're so successful.

20:48.98
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, Xbox. I mean, Xbox is loving it. They're loving it. They're loving the price hike. Nintendo is doing Xbox a favor. Because the more expensive the games are,

21:04.17
Tony Sisk
the better looking Game Pass looks. Right? like

21:08.79
Jaime G 
Agreed. Agreed.

21:11.33
Tony Sisk
Right? So, they're loving the fact. That's why they, I mean, yeah, let's go ahead and increase prices. It's just going to make people subscribe to Game Pass.

21:21.54
Tony Sisk
Because, you know, instead of dropping $80, $90 on a game, your your value proposition is getting to the point now, it's like, man, yeah I'm better off just doing this subscription.

21:33.61
Jaime G 
Yeah. but But the problem there, though, is that you that's only true for the people who are PC gamers, Xbox gamers, because ah a Switch won't be able, I mean, I suspect, won't have the right specs to run a true Xbox game.

21:54.20
Tony Sisk
Well, I think Xbox games are getting dumbed down. So when you say that, when you say a true Xbox game, I'm like, I'm thinking a game that has less graphics, a game that's ah that's the less graphically intense because like, I think the future of gaming, here we go.

22:10.26
Jaime G 
Yeah.

22:14.87
Tony Sisk
We're talking, we're talking predictions here. Future of gaming is ah smaller games because they're all saying that they all want smaller budgets for their games. ah less production time.

22:26.94
Tony Sisk
they can't They can't spend five years and $500 million dollars to make a game.

22:27.28
Jaime G 
Yeah.

22:32.56
Tony Sisk
It needs to come out in two years. It needs to be under $100 million in budget. And

22:39.09
Jaime G 
I'll agree, yeah.

22:41.10
Tony Sisk
we to do that, you're going to see a lot of ai being used. You're going to see a lot of samey graphics across games. Everything's kind of going to look alike.

22:53.09
Tony Sisk
And you know so the only original look and stuff we're going to get is to be coming from independence.

22:59.66
Tony Sisk
and And or if Sony just decides to stay with their artistry thing where, you know, our games are art. Which I don't see how they could financially compete by doing that. So.

23:13.77
Jaime G 
i I agree with what you just said. I think the budgets are going to get smaller because it's not sustainable to get like super duper keep it how it is today and then still expect to turn a profit.

23:28.32
Jaime G 
right um

23:31.96
Jaime G 
It just doesn't look like it's a positive perspective for the gamer, man.

23:36.69
Tony Sisk
Nope, it's not. Gaming...

23:42.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah, gaming is is going backwards. It's seemingly going backwards.

23:45.52
Jaime G 
Right.

23:48.45
Tony Sisk
So, but, I mean, it's all dictated by the financial side of things and the profit margins, so...

23:57.40
Tony Sisk
um

24:00.12
Tony Sisk
Unless there's a big boom in the gaming industry where all these tons of new gamers come in and just start spending a lot of money.

24:05.58
Jaime G 
you You know who the who's the only person that's going to be putting out the big budget games?

24:12.55
Jaime G 
the Call of Duties and the Grand Theft Auto of the world.

24:17.03
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but those those have mass appeal.

24:21.02
Jaime G 
Right.

24:22.42
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And they're the ones, yeah, they'll have the big budgets because they're a proven commodities. I mean, they know, great GTA knows that they're going to sell 50 million copies of their game.

24:37.37
Jaime G 
Yeah.

24:41.32
Tony Sisk
Like, I mean, i don't know if Call Duty has the same the same staying power. I don't know. I mean, it seems to be all right. They seem to stick around, but

24:55.11
Tony Sisk
We keep saying like, oh, people aren't interested in the next Call Duty because it's the same as the last Call Duty, which was the same as the previous Call Duty, which was the same one as the previous Call of Duty before that.

25:06.96
Jaime G 
Yeah.

25:08.89
Tony Sisk
But people just keep buying it, so.

25:13.19
Tony Sisk
Which I did not this time because it was on a Game Pass.

25:18.31
Jaime G 
Well, you know, thumbs up here for Nintendo doing an Xbox a favor. Let's see how Xbox sales or profits. Well, they don't really disclose some of their profits. So let's hope to see what happens.

25:35.09
Tony Sisk
Right. Yep. I mean, that's a... That's an... Xbox. They're so... They... know What was it? In the first quarter, they made, like, some crazy number. I'm talking, like, $50 billion dollars in profit.

25:53.67
Tony Sisk
And then they announced the layoffs.

25:57.38
Jaime G 
is Isn't that crazy? Yeah. ta yeah that's

26:01.52
Tony Sisk
Right. I'm like, you made... almost $50 billion in profit, we need to lay off people.

26:13.06
Jaime G 
And that's not good enough.

26:15.39
Tony Sisk
I'm like, what? I'm like, my company, um won they mention most I most people know what company I'm working for. We'd be lucky to have a billion dollars in profit in a year.

26:28.11
Tony Sisk
we We call that a successful year. $1 billion dollars in profit. $1 billion.

26:36.68
Tony Sisk
Versus a company that's making, you know, dozens and dozens of billions in profit in one quarter. And they're laying off people.

26:50.83
Tony Sisk
That's crazy. I mean, I don't, yeah. It just goes to show you like what kind of, like kind of company they are. They don't really care about their workers. So.

27:01.94
Jaime G 
All right, so financial quarter for Microsoft. They increased 9.1 billion.

27:15.02
Jaime G 
wo

27:18.97
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

27:19.92
Jaime G 
Increased, Tony.

27:22.42
Tony Sisk
Right. how How much was there revenue for the quarter?

27:35.29
Jaime G 
Can't find it, man. These financial reports are complex.

27:42.72
Jaime G 
And I'm not a you know a guy who's used to reading these.

27:45.67
Tony Sisk
Okay, here goes. I got it. First quarter 2025 for Microsoft.

27:50.95
Jaime G 
Yeah.

27:51.93
Tony Sisk
Revenue reached $70.07 billion. dollars

27:56.64
Jaime G 
That's crazy.

27:58.62
Tony Sisk
Exceeded analysts' expectations of $68 billion. dollars So they were $2 billion dollars over what analysts thought they were. So they did better than they thought.

28:09.19
Jaime G 
It's not enough.

28:10.91
Tony Sisk
Um...

28:15.59
Jaime G 
It's not enough.

28:17.56
Tony Sisk
Right.

28:23.32
Jaime G 
Yeah, no.

28:23.38
Tony Sisk
Trying to find where the number,

28:27.95
Tony Sisk
what they but the, what the, what I say what the revenue was.

28:36.49
Jaime G 
60-something?

28:39.63
Tony Sisk
Right. Okay. So Microsoft profit.

28:47.60
Tony Sisk
First quarter.

28:58.86
Tony Sisk
to be exact. $24.7 billion in profit

29:03.08
Tony Sisk
in one quarter. twenty five billion dollars twenty four point seven but exact twenty four point seven billion dollars in profit in one quarter

29:14.97
Jaime G 
And one quarter dude. oh

29:22.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah, they ain't hurting.

29:25.60
Tony Sisk
Their revenues are up. Their profits are up. Let's lay off people.

29:31.73
Jaime G 
Right.

29:32.68
Tony Sisk
Right. They're like the evil empire.

29:38.27
Tony Sisk
Evil empire. um Speaking of evil empires, I finally got around to watching a show.

29:45.73
Jaime G 
Yes.

29:50.18
Tony Sisk
a Star Wars show. You know, I know we talk occasionally some Star Wars and Marvel and stuff on the on the podcast. So ah recently, Andor Season 2 released on Disney+. plus I know you don't have Disney+, so yeah you probably haven't seen the show.

30:13.25
Tony Sisk
But I had not seen Andor Season 1. And I had heard good things about Andor. ah But I have also been put off by a lot of the Star Wars projects that have come out recently.

30:29.12
Tony Sisk
oh Most recently, the Acolyte, which was just awful. um And there's been some other ones too. that ah um We did like a series of podcasts on...

30:47.34
Tony Sisk
Boba Fett. That Star Wars show a few years ago. We have a bunch of episodes on that. If you want to listen to those episodes, go back sure check out our catalog of episodes. You can find them there.

30:59.75
Tony Sisk
But that show was also awful. Outside of a couple episodes where the Mandalorian appeared and it turned into the Mandalorian show, Boba

31:14.44
Tony Sisk
Fett was bad. ah Mandalorian was good. um

31:22.58
Tony Sisk
Obi-Wan was okay. I have not seen like some of the other ones, whatever. but Disney's been really hit or miss with their shows, especially in the Star Wars universe.

31:35.88
Tony Sisk
And they've really just put out garbage. I'll just say that. ah So I decided with Andor Season 2 dropping ah that I should go and and watch Season 1.

31:49.31
Tony Sisk
um It kind stinks that Vance is not here to have his input because he was the one asking me about have I watched Andor. But he's not here tonight.

31:59.34
Jaime G 
He likes it, right?

31:59.82
Tony Sisk
So yeah.

32:00.98
Jaime G 
Yeah.

32:01.64
Tony Sisk
I don't know if he does or not, actually. yeah he He didn't actually say if he liked it or not. But, um so I went, I ah binge watched Andor season one.

32:13.71
Tony Sisk
So this is what I was talking about earlier. like, oh. The title of the show should be. So I finally got around to watching and or season one dot dot dot. ah So.

32:27.19
Tony Sisk
I finished up ah the last episode this morning, and then I started into the first three episodes of season two and. My opinion of this show.

32:38.99
Tony Sisk
I will say.

32:43.83
Tony Sisk
It is the best Star Wars show. Hands down. The best.

32:51.90
Tony Sisk
ah That there is. Nothing is even close.

32:57.06
Tony Sisk
um I really like.

33:03.60
Tony Sisk
I really want to use the word. It's a masterpiece.

33:07.71
Jaime G 
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

33:07.88
Tony Sisk
Of storytelling.

33:09.04
Jaime G 
Whoa,

33:09.76
Tony Sisk
It's a masterpiece of storytelling. Right. Right.

33:12.61
Jaime G 
no. no

33:15.23
Tony Sisk
Yes. That's how, that's what I, this is how I feel about the show. um After watching, you know after going through 15 episodes of it, this is

33:33.06
Tony Sisk
ah a show for adults of star Wars, right? There's no, there's no, there's nothing in here. That is targeting the kids.

33:46.32
Tony Sisk
Right? Like. know. Lots of Star Wars has that. You know. That. Oh. You know. with um Even with Mandalorian. You had the cute baby Yoda thing going on. And and there was always some element of Star Wars. That appealed to kids.

34:03.93
Tony Sisk
Or should appeal to kids. Outside of the fact this is a Star Wars fantasy. Or a space fantasy.

34:11.38
Jaime G 
Yeah.

34:11.49
Tony Sisk
Um.

34:11.64
Jaime G 
Uh-huh.

34:13.00
Tony Sisk
This is an adult show. With adult themes. That. With incredible dialogue. Incredible characters.

34:27.53
Tony Sisk
That gets into like the nuts and bolts. Of the rebellion.

34:33.62
Jaime G 
ah hu

34:35.76
Tony Sisk
The characters that comprise the rebellion. In its early stages. Um. You get to see it's not the glory.

34:47.60
Tony Sisk
It's not the...

34:51.08
Tony Sisk
i won't I don't want to say like the bad guys are humanized and the good guys are dehumanized. And it's like it's a gray area. Because the Empire is the Empire. Right?

35:02.56
Tony Sisk
There's nothing really good about the Empire. Other than the fact that regular people live in the Empire. Right?

35:09.12
Jaime G 
Yeah. Right,

35:11.47
Tony Sisk
But the rebel portion... We're always, we're conditioned in Star Wars shows to always think of the rebels as the force of good, right?

35:20.74
Jaime G 
right right

35:23.28
Tony Sisk
But this show really, it it it really shows that, you know, these people aren't really that good. Like, yes, they hate the Empire. they They want to strip the yoke of the of the authority off of them.

35:42.87
Tony Sisk
but the method that they employ are like, you know, practical, but questionable ethically. Right. It's like, i mean, it's probably closer to true life, how things operate. Um, you know, there's no, you know, the film like ah game of Thrones where the Starks were always honorable, right. No matter what, um,

36:11.39
Tony Sisk
Now, the rebels here are not always honorable, and you have to watch your back around them just as much as you do with the the Empire. And that's where the center of the story deals with a particular character, Cassian Andor.

36:28.20
Tony Sisk
ah He's the central character, and we know him from Rogue One, the movie.

36:36.80
Jaime G 
Yep.

36:37.24
Tony Sisk
ah And there, he he is a rebel. But in Andor, we were getting his bi basically his biography, and he's not a rebel by heart. He doesn't want anything to do with them.

36:51.92
Tony Sisk
he's a he's a He's searching for ah lost sister from his childhood. he's he's He plays the system. He's kind of like Han Solo, basically.

37:04.26
Tony Sisk
The first, like the original Han Solo, basically, before Han Solo was a thing. like he He was just doing his own thing. And he's got his old cadre of associates. And they're just you know ripping off the Empire, trying to make money, trying to live or whatever. And he gets entangled within the ah ah with this within the story of the Empire and the the Rebels.

37:28.45
Tony Sisk
um But man, it is powerful storytelling. I just can't. there were There were moments in the first season, like literally I'm on the edge of my seat.

37:41.72
Tony Sisk
And in like I was pacing the floor Because I was so anxious For what was going to happen To the characters They made so many characters Relatable And made you just worry about Like what was about to happen Because like I said This is an adult show People died Like there was no Like

38:12.29
Tony Sisk
yeah There was no like Last second rescue Right you know there's no um Easy Easy way out There's there is a lot of difficult choices being made by characters ah the intensity of the situations that they were in was just, it was great. It's not even, it's it's like ah really well written espionage show just placed into Star Wars world.

38:43.95
Tony Sisk
Right. And then it's like, you know, i just so believable as far as like the, the way the world feels like

38:57.34
Tony Sisk
This is like you're seeing how regular people are living. You still have this odd quirk, which is funny in the Star Wars world. It's like you have this advanced civilization with all these planets and stuff. And every planet only has like one city on it.

39:12.57
Tony Sisk
And and there's no there's no paved roads. Everybody's on dirt roads and in living in clothing that you would find like, you know, just in a garbage somewhere.

39:22.75
Jaime G 
Yeah, yeah. I've always noticed that it looks pretty bleak in the in the universe, man.

39:27.41
Tony Sisk
but yeah Except when you're on Curasant Now Curasant man the The design of Curasant You have a lot of the show Dealing with Mon mo mon Mothma i can't remember her name She's the senator ah She's the leader of the I think but Of the rebels in some of the movies right She's presented as the leader The figurehead

39:50.99
Jaime G 
Mm-hmm.

39:52.28
Tony Sisk
um And you see you get a lot of the third of the stories basically we evolves around her and her dealings in this capital. um And then you've got lucent Lucent, who's basically the spider. You know, he's like the webmasters of of moving all the pieces around the board and manipulating people and gathering intelligence and pitting people against each other and stuff.

40:24.33
Tony Sisk
You've got that character. You've got, so you get a really good look in the, inside the ISB, which is like a internal security bureau.

40:38.35
Tony Sisk
Think of it as the, like, um, I won't say the FBI. Think of it as like the Gestapo, right? Like they're the intelligence organization for the empire.

40:50.95
Tony Sisk
And their job is to, you know, ferret out all the, you know, rebel dealings and just anybody working against the empire.

41:03.00
Tony Sisk
And you really get to see a really good look of how these are, this organization is functioning, who's running it. Like the, the officers that are in there and their relationships with each other, which are, you know, they're pitted against each other.

41:19.28
Tony Sisk
um And they're always trying to like advance in their career and stuff like that. But it's fascinating stuff. And its like, do, so you get a good look within like the Imperial strategies and how they're employing that against ah those that they've conquered, the rebels, the the planets, their Imperial yoke, basically.

41:47.90
Tony Sisk
You get to see how the Alliance is using that to their advantage to garner sympathy. And then you have Cassian, who's the central character, trying to like survive, you know getting caught up in all this.

42:04.48
Tony Sisk
and um is if i if I were to tell you, you need to figure out a way to watch a show because if you're a Star Wars fan...

42:17.32
Tony Sisk
this This to me is Star Wars. like This is like...

42:22.61
Tony Sisk
The great thing is there's no Jedi in it.

42:22.71
Jaime G 
ah

42:25.62
Tony Sisk
There's no Jedi.

42:25.67
Jaime G 
I was just about to tell you that. it's It can't be Star Wars if there's no Jedi in

42:31.25
Tony Sisk
Well, there's no Jedis within this story. I mean, there are Jedis in the world. You have the Emperor.

42:35.94
Jaime G 
And the universe.

42:35.96
Tony Sisk
You know, he's a Sith. um They...

42:39.68
Jaime G 
But to me, it's like, it can't have Star Wars in the title. Well, it doesn't. has It's just Andor, right?

42:51.26
Tony Sisk
It just says Andor. but But there were no Jedi present during this time. Remember, this is before Luke.

43:00.50
Tony Sisk
The only ones wielding the Force are the Emperor and Vader and whatever Sith Lords that they've got under their control whatever. like There's no Jedis out there running around. Obi-Wan's out there hiding. This is that time frame. This is right before right During the initial construction. Of the Death Star.

43:24.33
Tony Sisk
Time period.

43:24.38
Jaime G 
Right, right, right. So Obi-Wan's still in Palpatine somewhere.

43:29.17
Tony Sisk
Yeah. He's still hiding out somewhere. which he's He's filming his show.

43:34.92
Jaime G 
Which apparently wasn't good.

43:36.70
Tony Sisk
but Right. um But I'm like. You know. the the

43:44.51
Tony Sisk
Man. The look inside the rebellion. It's like oh my goodness. Like. There's like six different factions. They all hate each other.

43:54.94
Jaime G 
Yeah.

43:55.05
Tony Sisk
They can't work with each other. There's no there just no good leadership. like We get to see like in the movies and stuff, oh they have a military system.

44:06.03
Tony Sisk
like they They're like established military yeah with ships. and like Everybody's got the same uniform.

44:11.69
Jaime G 
yeah

44:15.75
Tony Sisk
Same equipment, whatever. No, this is before that. They don't have any of that stuff. these These dudes are incompetent. Like, literally, it's the very beginnings. Like,

44:31.72
Tony Sisk
ah a Of a rebellion Where everybody's just Doing their own thing And nobody knows Like There's there's even an episode in the second season Which at the very beginning Where Multiple rebel groups Run into each other and they say Oh where we're the rebellion No we're the rebellion And then they start fighting it yeah know Then they start fighting it out because they don't believe The other side is part of the same Thing Like

44:37.43
Jaime G 
Right.

45:05.22
Jaime G 
Dude, I don't know. I don't know. I hear you. I believe you that it's a good show, but I don't know if it's a masterpiece in storytelling.

45:18.69
Tony Sisk
No, it's it it is. It is. It's a masterpiece.

45:25.73
Tony Sisk
It's the best Star Wars show. Period. Better Mandalorian. First season.

45:32.14
Jaime G 
ah Dude, OK.

45:37.29
Tony Sisk
telling you. mean, did you watch Rogue

45:42.13
Tony Sisk
i mean did you watch brogue one

45:44.93
Jaime G 
Yes, I have it.

45:46.99
Tony Sisk
Okay.

45:47.09
Jaime G 
Yeah.

45:48.25
Tony Sisk
So it's basically Rogue One. It's put in TV form. It's got that same

45:58.59
Tony Sisk
that's a feel to it, basically. It's the same characters. oh You got Cassian. He's in that. so This is basically his backstory. Which is way more interesting than the prequel movies of Anakin Skywalker.

46:14.76
Tony Sisk
And how all that played out. Way more interesting. And better produced.

46:18.41
Jaime G 
And the Han Solo terrible flop.

46:22.44
Tony Sisk
Right.

46:25.81
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Knowing that knowing you know Cassian dies in Rogue One. case anybody didn't know. he did. that's That movie's been out for a few years.

46:35.39
Jaime G 
I was going to say, you if you're Star Wars fan and you don't know that, you're not a fan.

46:35.51
Tony Sisk
But. Right. Right.

46:44.19
Tony Sisk
um But yeah He ends up being You know He's the Like A true hero Of the Alliance So

46:54.93
Jaime G 
Well, I'm just going to say this, Tony. I think that it might be good, but there's nothing on Disney Plus that pushes me to say get that to get that subscription.

47:15.33
Jaime G 
At one point, I thought it was going to Falcon and the Winter Soldier. But then you guys were like, oh it's not that great. Then I'm like, okay, I'm out.

47:29.29
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I mean, awful. It's not that great. Andor leaves it in the dust.

47:42.50
Tony Sisk
It's that good.

47:42.68
Jaime G 
Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, i I'm going to have to keep an effort, but until it streams on some

47:50.02
Tony Sisk
have It's too bad that they don't put it on disc. They need to put it on DVD so people or they can buy the season.

47:54.85
Jaime G 
Yeah.

47:58.02
Jaime G 
didn Didn't they put like some of the Marvel shows on? on Like they released them as like you could buy the season?

48:06.07
Tony Sisk
I don't know, but they need to do that. They need to make the season where you can buy it separate, like, you know, where you don't have to need, you don't have a subscription.

48:11.89
Jaime G 
I mean, yeah.

48:16.45
Tony Sisk
Maybe they do that. i don't know.

48:18.00
Jaime G 
The one that I always wanted to see but never did was Hawkeye.

48:23.66
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that was okay. We have episodes on the Hawkeye too. If you're interested in listening to our review episodes on the Hawkeye, be sure to check out our podcast catalog. Okay.

48:34.69
Jaime G 
Yeah, four-year-old episodes at this point.

48:38.50
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's still the story. The story is the story.

48:41.76
Jaime G 
Yeah, for sure. I agree. I agree.

48:46.34
Tony Sisk
Yep. So anyway, that's how I had.

48:53.59
Jaime G 
Well, you're doing better than i did because I've only played RoboCop, and that's it, man.

49:00.85
Tony Sisk
yeah You know, you yeah have those weeks. You just need to get up earlier.

49:05.89
Jaime G 
ah Oh, you went there.

49:13.54
Tony Sisk
Felix would say, you need to get up earlier, dad.

49:18.02
Jaime G 
he he doesn't realize I'm up so early, though.

49:23.30
Tony Sisk
Right.

49:23.46
Jaime G 
Doing stuff, and he's like, oh, i just get up earlier and play. Of course. Yeah, right? Like eight-year-old logic. All right.

49:31.18
Tony Sisk
Right.

49:34.96
Tony Sisk
All right, then. I'm going to go back and we go binge watch some more episodes of Andorra season 2.

49:42.91
Jaime G 
Well, tell me. Let's talk about it next time. I'll probably, by that time, have new games under my belt they that I can tell you, hey, let's play this. All right, man.

49:53.42
Tony Sisk
Alright. I'll catch you later.

49:56.52
Jaime G 
Talk to soon.

49:57.48
Tony Sisk
Bye.