Jaime Buys a Switch 2, Dave The Diver, Fantastic 4 Non-spoiler Reaction

In this episode, Jaime goes to buy an Xbox but comes home with the new Switch 2 instead. plus, the greatness that is Dave the Diver and Tony's non-spoiler reaction to the new Fantastic 4 movie.

Transcript

00:01.06
Tony Sisk
Hi folks, welcome back to Good2GameRadio. Hold on. I messed that up. Hi folks, welcome back to Good2GameRadio. I'm your host Tony speaking and I'm here with Jaime tonight.

00:12.70
Tony Sisk
We're going talking Dave the Diver, his new Switch, and Fantastic Four. Jaime, how's it going?

00:21.35
Jaime G
Dude, I'm tired. I don't know why. I am just tired. I took a good nap today. It's hot in Tennessee, man. We've had like, what, a new record for the most hot days that that we've had like consecutive days that go over like 90 degrees.

00:39.05
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's been in the nineties, but the heat index is where it's really pushing it up there. I do the scheduling for my work and everybody works outside.

00:50.52
Tony Sisk
So I have to schedule extra people.

00:50.80
Jaime G
yeah

00:53.41
Tony Sisk
So nobody is falling over from heat exhaustion. So, my work weeks have been, pretty busy trying to get that, uh, that scheduling correct and the staffing up and, and, uh,

01:08.42
Tony Sisk
I have to go by the weather report and the heat index. And it's usually like once it hits over 100, have to add the extra staff. And for like the last week and a half, two weeks, every day, I've had to add an extra staff.

01:21.21
Jaime G
Yes. Yeah.

01:22.81
Tony Sisk
So, yeah, it's been one hot summer. It hasn't been this hot in a few years, like i mean maybe for a stretch of maybe a week. But it's it's been hot like this entire summer.

01:36.83
Tony Sisk
And Tennessee hot is muggy and sticky and miserable.

01:37.33
Jaime G
Well,

01:40.37
Jaime G
Right. they're it's It's been like extremely hotter. Thankfully, I've been watching that the weather thing on my on my ah phone and it said like we've got like starting Wednesday for like a week.

01:55.88
Jaime G
There's like like some probabilities of rain every single day.

01:59.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

02:00.12
Jaime G
I'll take any.

02:01.21
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I mean, earlier in the year, it was raining every day. Now it hasn't rained in my house for a few days, but, um,

02:08.83
Jaime G
You're right. It felt like that the beginning of the summer, it was like, it wasn't like light drizzle is like storming for like consecutive days.

02:17.47
Tony Sisk
Yeah. But once we get into August, I think August tends to be a drier month. So there won't yeah, we probably already hit that where it's not going to be raining a lot, but it's still going be hot.

02:31.32
Tony Sisk
we We're not going to get any relief till like September.

02:36.03
Jaime G
You know what else we we're not going to get till September?

02:36.33
Tony Sisk
But you go ahead. What's that?

02:40.78
Jaime G
Any good movies or decent games?

02:43.74
Tony Sisk
Dude, I was just looking at that like I went to go schedule a movie in the AMC app this morning and I'm like, okay, what movies are coming out in the next couple of weeks?

02:56.46
Tony Sisk
Nothing, nothing.

02:57.73
Jaime G
No.

02:58.69
Tony Sisk
It's

02:58.98
Jaime G
That's it. the summer The summer big blockbusters are behind us now.

03:05.66
Tony Sisk
yeah. It's like everybody cleared that, that summer blockbuster period. They cleared that out. And gave those movies lots of room. And I mean, yeah, I had to schedule something called Weapons or something.

03:15.27
Jaime G
The one

03:23.25
Tony Sisk
It's about kids disappearing and it's like a, you know, alternate reality horror flick or something. It's from the same producers that produced Barbarian that came out like two years ago.

03:37.96
Tony Sisk
And that was like a freaky horror ah movie.

03:40.33
Jaime G
where the, the, the, the the one where where the the the the one lady goes into like a vacation rental by owner.

03:47.64
Tony Sisk
Yes, that one.

03:49.46
Jaime G
Dude, that was such a surprise. i i started watching it specifically because some website said, don't don't read up on this movie. Don't don't go in knowing anything about it.

04:03.79
Jaime G
Just know that it's about like a vacation rental by owner experience.

04:09.59
Tony Sisk
Right?

04:10.11
Jaime G
And it it delivered.

04:12.91
Tony Sisk
It is out there. So I, I scheduled that movie, uh, just because like, Oh, these are from the producers, the barbarian. It's going to be crazy. So I, I, I got two tickets to that, but yeah, there's nothing else really that's coming out.

04:22.41
Jaime G
Yeah.

04:27.73
Tony Sisk
So, um, we, we kind of stuck with just like, uh, rewatching, you know, some of the movies that are, that are out right now.

04:28.98
Jaime G
No, I mean, it's like.

04:35.14
Tony Sisk
So

04:36.11
Jaime G
Much like our weather, it's dried up, man.

04:38.93
Tony Sisk
yeah. And the games too, like, I mean, I think we only have a Mafia the Old Country, which dropping on August 8th. And like Grounded 2, which, you know, if we if Clint were still part of the podcast, he would he would be loving talking about Grounded because he always talked about that game when he was on here.

05:00.35
Tony Sisk
and He always loved talking Grounded. So that is coming out on Xbox.

05:04.94
Jaime G
Hey, by the way, shout out to Clint. I hope he's he's listening ah to us today. i don't know kind of where he's at these days, but, you know, he was one of the OGs for the podcast.

05:15.87
Tony Sisk
Yep. um But yeah, I mean, you know, something else that could be keeping you out, keeping you up at night is you have a new little toy.

05:28.52
Tony Sisk
ah call it a toy that you thats you texted me about a couple of days ago.

05:28.58
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

05:34.73
Jaime G
Yeah. I'm

05:36.27
Tony Sisk
So what, what more so Jaime, um He just held up the Switch 2, the new Switch 2.

05:43.60
Jaime G
um doing this right now.

05:45.78
Tony Sisk
Yep.

05:45.88
Jaime G
Bam.

05:47.40
Tony Sisk
And, I mean, what ah what drove you to to to dive in on the and the new console? I mean, that's a totally new ecosystem for you, so...

05:55.84
Jaime G
OK.

05:59.67
Jaime G
Well, um Tony, can you before we dive into that? um I'm going to have to come out and say I'm going to eat crow because couple episodes ago was like, yeah, this is too expensive. our arc our Switch boo. Right.

06:21.26
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

06:22.50
Jaime G
But in my defense, Last episode, I was talking about how I was in the market to get a an Xbox just because it was, I think, you know, Microsoft is tech bowing out from the console war.

06:37.57
Jaime G
they're They're in it for like the ecosystem, the software, Game Pass. So I decide, all right, I can't get it. I tried this again, man. I went into Facebook Marketplace and somebody was selling another one. and I responded, hey, I'll meet you up in Murfreesboro.

06:56.56
Jaime G
Oh, yeah, go to secondhand shop. And I was like, oh, this again?

07:00.33
Tony Sisk
yeah

07:02.21
Jaime G
So I'm like, I'm out. I'm going to Best Buy.

07:05.13
Tony Sisk
yeah You could just get the Game Pass on your laptop and be done with it.

07:10.77
Jaime G
Yeah, but you need to have a really good laptop to enjoy this and future-proof yourself. But again, i can't, again, I collect stuff.

07:24.17
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah.

07:24.26
Jaime G
um So anyway. Here I go to Best Buy. And I'm like, you know, my mindset is I'm going to go get me an Xbox. And I'm looking for the white one.

07:35.58
Jaime G
No, not the white one. the The one that's two terabytes, but which does have a physical disc thinking, okay, that's the best that I can get right now.

07:42.19
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

07:45.50
Jaime G
And myself, like a lot of other gamers, when you go to the video game section, you don't just walk over to the section that you're going to, that you have a console for you. You walk around.

07:55.78
Tony Sisk
right Yeah. You circle everything.

07:58.53
Jaime G
and Right? So here I am, and I and i look over. um like, that's a Switch 2 console. Wait, there's another one and another one.

08:13.86
Jaime G
So I thought, OK, they're not having the supply chain issues like Microsoft and Xbox. So so I'm like, OK, do I grab an Xbox or do I grab a Nintendo Switch 2? I mean, i i was I was there to get a console.

08:27.53
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

08:28.88
Jaime G
Well, guess which one I picked.

08:31.94
Tony Sisk
Well, the Switch 2.

08:34.13
Jaime G
Yeah.

08:34.29
Tony Sisk
And you got like a special ah version or something, right?

08:38.59
Jaime G
I got the one that came with the digital download for Mario Kart.

08:43.28
Tony Sisk
OK.

08:44.43
Jaime G
Yeah.

08:44.66
Tony Sisk
Have you played it yet?

08:45.96
Jaime G
I have. I mean, that's the only thing I can play.

08:50.46
Jaime G
Because in my mind, I was i was like, okay, I'm to get the Xbox and I'm going to Game Pass. I wasn't in it to get like get any games. So anyway, I picked this up, and my first reaction is, this thing's tiny.

09:04.88
Jaime G
i mean, look at this. This thing's like slim, right?

09:08.32
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

09:09.45
Jaime G
My PS portal that doesn't have like the same capabilities is fatter than this. um I remember when you let me ah hold the the Steam deck, it was it was big, right?

09:25.91
Jaime G
It was like, right, rugged.

09:25.98
Tony Sisk
or Yeah. yeah

09:29.56
Jaime G
And I've seen like the ROG allies. This is, I'm surprised at how thin this thing is. um The setup was painless. The dock is like really easy to to set up. I mean, i did find I did find myself like an old man, like, how do I turn this thing on? It's plugged into the wall. It's not doing anything.

09:51.25
Jaime G
Because I was like, I don't, I mean, I haven't had a Nintendo console since this Nintendo. I had the 64, I skipped the GameCube and I had the Switch.

10:03.23
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

10:03.79
Jaime G
And then I skipped everything else in between, which would have been, wait, wait, I said Switch. I had the Wii. I skipped the Wii U and I skipped the original Wii and any other handhelds.

10:16.50
Jaime G
so So now I'm here and I'm like, I don't know how to turn this thing on. felt I felt the old, Tony.

10:21.47
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. I had, ah we had the, the, we, that we bought for my daughter, my my oldest daughter, when she was like, don't know, five or six.

10:35.36
Jaime G
Yeah.

10:35.60
Tony Sisk
And then she went to the Wii U, and then she she went to the TS, and then the original Switch.

10:47.54
Tony Sisk
So she's always kind of had like, there's always kind of been a Nintendo in the house, but I never really played them.

10:48.35
Jaime G
Okay.

10:51.78
Jaime G
so So there's been a Nintendo continuity there.

10:55.81
Tony Sisk
Yeah, i didn't play I didn't play much Nintendo. but The last time I played a lot Nintendo was on Game Pass. Not Game Pass, but GameCube.

11:06.77
Tony Sisk
And that you know that was my own personal Nintendo.

11:06.80
Jaime G
Yeah.

11:09.70
Jaime G
Well, in my in my opinion, GameCube was one of their consoles that came out that was quite powerful at the time, and it was able to keep up

11:10.06
Tony Sisk
so

11:21.65
Jaime G
with vigils and games of its generation.

11:26.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

11:27.60
Jaime G
did i hey dad Did I ever tell you that i ah I have a master's in electrical engineering and the guy that I was doing my master's with, he was one of the guys that worked on the chipset for the Nintendo GameCube.

11:27.77
Tony Sisk
And they.

11:45.67
Tony Sisk
Oh, really?

11:45.70
Jaime G
And oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He he he used to tell the stories about kind of how was working for them. And when they finished all the dev team, they got like GameCubes before launch.

12:01.08
Jaime G
And like that that they had to sign like some paperwork saying, we will not sell these to like in in the black market before they rela they launch and stuff. but then And he would have like people over at Eric's place and be like, check out the new console, right? It's not even out yet.

12:17.70
Tony Sisk
cool

12:19.13
Jaime G
Yeah.

12:21.55
Jaime G
So anyway, this thing, man, I finally get it turned on. i don't I'm like pressing on buttons on until something clicks.

12:27.60
Tony Sisk
yeah this is a guy who has a master's in electrical engineering okay gotcha

12:33.57
Jaime G
Who has not had a Nintendo console in like forever. um And finally, you know i'm realizing, Tony, that Nintendo has got to be making millions just in freaking accessories.

12:48.53
Jaime G
Because one thing is the console, right? And then it comes with this this thing, this grip, where you put like the Joy-Cons on the left and right-hand side to use it as a controller.

12:58.34
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

13:00.22
Jaime G
Perfect. Guess what? This thing will not charge the Joy-Cons. You have to buy a different grip that's exactly the same as this with just like a USB port on it that will charge them.

13:07.61
Tony Sisk
Uh-huh.

13:11.84
Jaime G
um Otherwise, you put the Joy-Cons on the Nintendo console and then take them off whenever. And I was like, okay, that's $40. And then the memory card on this thing is like $60 for a 256 gigabyte thing.

13:30.16
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

13:30.81
Jaime G
Literally, while we were starting to record, I saw that they're selling 512 gigabyte, one for $78. And i'm text as you and I were starting, I was six texting my wife like, buy this, buy this for me, please.

13:46.72
Jaime G
and then And then they make like all different types of accessories, like the Pro Controller, the Switch camera, the like little wheel-looking controller thingies, which I had for the original Nintendo Wii when Mario Kart came out.

14:01.64
Tony Sisk
yeah

14:02.74
Jaime G
there There's so many freaking accessories for this. It's it's it's ridiculous. And so I get the switch, right? I set it up.

14:13.95
Jaime G
I never, I told my wife, but she kind of, she kind of busted me when I came home with the, with the box.

14:23.40
Tony Sisk
She's like, nada' not an Xbox.

14:23.68
Jaime G
She's,

14:26.08
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

14:26.18
Jaime G
Well, yeah, she's like, what's that? my I'm like, it's a game system. She's like, that doesn't look like an Xbox. I'm like, it's not. It's a Switch.

14:38.43
Jaime G
She's like, wait, I thought you said it was an Xbox. I'm like, I changed my mind.

14:45.60
Jaime G
but But I didn't tell my son. and so I had it. i installed it. It's like on the docking station. It's in the room where we have the television. So he comes in and out bunch of times. And then finally yesterday, I'm like, well, I want to play some so Mario Kart.

15:01.95
Jaime G
And he's like, dad, you can't play Mario Kart. I'm like, yes, I can't. Just watch me. And so I click on that. He's like, what? How long has this been here?

15:14.95
Jaime G
I'm like, for a day. He's like, why can't you tell me?

15:19.64
Tony Sisk
Just say you cannot touch it.

15:22.98
Jaime G
I did. i Because he wanted to take it off the docking station. And I was like, do not touch. Because, oh, here's another accessory.

15:33.35
Jaime G
I still had him bought like the film that you put on top of this to protect it.

15:35.67
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

15:37.61
Jaime G
I just got it today and installed it, the screen protector. So my son was like right away, wanted to be like, let me take it off the docking station, play with him. I was like, no, don't touch this.

15:50.02
Jaime G
Not until I put the protector on it.

15:52.47
Tony Sisk
Right. You

15:53.56
Jaime G
Right? So, accessories galore.

15:55.75
Tony Sisk
just.

15:57.77
Jaime G
Memory, expensive. I shouldn't say expensive. at The Xbox memory cards are more expensive. Games, Tony, games. I'm like, what did i what did I get into?

16:09.36
Tony Sisk
Well, you kind of limited right now.

16:14.64
Jaime G
Obviously, the mark I've been looking at a lot of people saying, okay, we've had the the ah Switch 2 for a month and a half now. Mario Kart's kind of getting old.

16:26.93
Jaime G
Donkey Kong Bonanza came out and got a lot of really good reception.

16:26.92
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

16:33.10
Jaime G
But I went back and i said, okay, I haven't had a ah Switch. So what are the best games that I can play, right? So per IGN, here's the top 25 Nintendo Switch games. And I'm not going to go through the whole list. I'm just going to go through list.

16:52.18
Jaime G
The best one is Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kindling, Nintendo IP.

16:57.26
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

16:57.74
Jaime G
Second place, The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, Nintendo IP. Third place, Super Mario Odyssey. I mean, don't know if you're you're sensing a pattern here.

17:09.70
Jaime G
um Fourth place, Super Smash Brothers.

17:09.78
Tony Sisk
Right.

17:14.13
Jaime G
Fifth place, Mario Kart Deluxe. Sixth place, Metroid Dread.

17:19.72
Jaime G
And because they're on Nintendo games, they will never come down in price.

17:25.09
Tony Sisk
Right.

17:26.09
Jaime G
Finally, seventh place, Hollow Knight, which I've played tons of on PlayStation. Eighth place, Hades, which you you told me is a great game. I never really got around to playing.

17:40.76
Tony Sisk
Right.

17:40.98
Jaime G
And I think I have a PlayStation catalog or something. And then from there, it's just a slew of like another five, six, seven, eight, a bunch of Nintendo games.

17:55.78
Jaime G
Until 19th place, where it's the Prince of Persia, The Lost Crown, which I'm surprised that they're saying that it's like one of the best Switch games because it didn't sell all that well.

18:06.61
Tony Sisk
right

18:07.93
Jaime G
But, dude. Oh, and then 25th place, best Nintendo Switch game, Slay the Spire.

18:17.33
Tony Sisk
ah Are these s games that are that you can play on the Switch 2?

18:17.87
Jaime G
Point is, is that,

18:21.18
Tony Sisk
Okay.

18:21.99
Jaime G
ah well, on the original Switch, because again, I'm thinking if I want to play something, I'm going to play games that have been out for a while because there's not a lot of great release titles right now.

18:33.66
Tony Sisk
Yeah. so The Tears of the Kingdom was probably something that you could spend hundreds of hours on. so If you were willing to go that route. Okay.

18:43.95
Jaime G
Yeah, but I need to start with Breath of the Wild before I go into Tears of the Kindy, my friend.

18:49.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah, that's true. ah Either one. They're Zelda games. so

18:56.22
Jaime G
It's out.

18:56.27
Tony Sisk
they're they're They're super popular. And yeah, I love Zelda. That's probably where I would start.

19:01.42
Jaime G
Well, but it goes back to the argument I've made many times before that Nintendo is best with Nintendo games.

19:10.57
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

19:12.33
Jaime G
And Nintendo games are expensive.

19:17.89
Tony Sisk
They're like the only games that actually go up in price. Like, you find a used Nintendo game, is gonna it's going to be more expensive than when it was brand new.

19:21.23
Jaime G
Right?

19:28.31
Tony Sisk
That's just how it works.

19:28.54
Jaime G
Right.

19:31.23
Jaime G
and And I can be quoted on saying this on this show. All the rules that apply for video gaming, Nintendo breaks them. and And the prices on games is one of them.

19:43.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

19:43.97
Jaime G
Like all of these games, Super Mario Odyssey was probably early in the life cycle of the of the Switch. I mean, i don't know if it was a release title or not, but it's early enough.

19:56.44
Jaime G
I bet you I can still pull it up and it'll still be like in the 60s.

19:59.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I would love to see like a documentary. Maybe there is one out there and stuff like that. Because at one point, Nintendo, you know it's always been kind of like the third place console system.

20:13.04
Tony Sisk
like Back when you had Xbox and PlayStation 1, 2, 3, Xbox 360. Yeah. like box three sixty You had Nintendo kind of like, oh, it's over here, you know, doing its own thing, which they always do. They just do their own thing.

20:28.13
Tony Sisk
But like when you talk about sales and stuff, like they were usually like ah kind of a distant third.

20:28.26
Jaime G
Yeah. Yes.

20:34.56
Tony Sisk
um It wasn't until they switched over to handhelds and the the little nintendo ds system which i love the ds and i was like man this is amazing you can take you know games with you on the go you know and it's on this little device and they look great and they play great and i'm like man this is great but then you know they dominated that market and then they they they upped their game with the switch and then it's been it's just totally been a totally different

20:40.15
Jaime G
yes

21:04.04
Tony Sisk
theyre They are the leading console maker, basically, because you know it's it's considered a console. And it's it's like they flip the whole table on everybody with their mobile gaming.

21:17.72
Jaime G
Yeah.

21:20.04
Tony Sisk
So now everybody wants to be in that market.

21:21.20
Jaime G
And dude, well, when the original Switch launched, me and a buddy of mine, his name's Jeremy, he listens to the podcast, you know, ah so he might not remember this conversation, but we were helping another friend from our small group move from his house.

21:40.22
Jaime G
They were moving out of their house and we're here, it's a Friday night, we're sweating loading stuff into like a yeah U-Haul. And I asked him, like, because he had just picked up the Switch recently.

21:52.39
Jaime G
And I was like, okay, man, do you think the Switch is a console handheld? and And we had, like, this argument, the three of us, for a while, that they were saying that they was they both were saying it was a console. like, I think it's a handheld.

22:08.46
Jaime G
And they're like, no, but you can plug it into the TV. Yeah. But whenever the Switch Lite came out years later, i was like, see, that's proof. This is a handheld.

22:24.26
Tony Sisk
But it's considered it a console.

22:24.57
Jaime G
So it

22:29.83
Tony Sisk
yeah yeah

22:30.28
Jaime G
it's a handheld with a fancy HDMI cable.

22:36.94
Tony Sisk
Well, you just spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on yours. Welcome to the club.

22:41.26
Jaime G
OK. on On the console, on the screen protector, on the, what's the name of that?

22:43.75
Tony Sisk
The club that I'm not in, by the way.

22:48.26
Jaime G
The memory card. Yeah. and then And then I'm going to have to get a second controller to play with my son because he's because he's gotten into Mario Kart.

22:50.96
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

22:55.32
Tony Sisk
Yep Yeah well Plus you You want to keep it docked You like you don't want him Not to say that Felix wouldn't be careful But you know hey You don't want to drop it on the kitchen floor Yeah

23:14.42
Jaime G
Dude. Okay, so by the way, just before we move on from this this topic, I went back. Super Mario Odyssey was released in 2017 at a list price of $59.99. Okay?

23:26.24
Jaime G
okay This is when the game's capped at $60.

23:30.41
Tony Sisk
yep

23:31.40
Jaime G
You can get a new today for $52.

23:37.43
Jaime G
I mean, it's probably dropped in price... a dollar for every year that it's that it's that it's been out of the market.

23:46.64
Tony Sisk
yeah what's that gonna go on sale

23:51.89
Jaime G
It never is. It never will go on sale. And they they don't even do, i don't think they do anymore like the greatest hits.

24:02.94
Jaime G
because Because they know they're going to milk these over and over again.

24:03.19
Tony Sisk
I don't know. I don't think so. You're going to milk it. Yeah.

24:08.64
Jaime G
Well, the one game I do want to play, I will admit, is I'm a huge Metroid fan and I wanted to play Metroid Dread. I'm not a fan of like the Metroid Prime series, which it's like first person. To me, Metroid started as a platformer, should stay as a platformer. And i kind of reject the notion of it being a first person shooter.

24:31.71
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

24:33.63
Jaime G
Some people liked it. That's why there's Metroid Prime 1, 2, and 3. But i want I really, whenever a Dread came out, I was like, ooh, I want to play that at some point in my lifetime. Maybe now's the time.

24:45.32
Tony Sisk
Go for it.

24:46.85
Jaime G
Yes.

24:46.90
Tony Sisk
I mean, I know when if I ever get a switch to, I'll be like did right there where you're at like now. It's like, oh, I want to buy this, one I want to buy that, I want to buy this, want to buy that.

24:59.13
Tony Sisk
So... But I'm not in that club yet. You and Vance. You know, Vance bought a Switch 2 for his daughter for a birthday. So he has a Switch 2 in his household. I don't know if he's ever going to be able to get to play it.

25:11.12
Tony Sisk
But you both are now kind of proud owners of Switch 2s. um I'm not there. I'm not in the club. So maybe one day.

25:22.81
Jaime G
Well, I mean, and to be fair, I wanted to be a proud owner of an Xbox, not a... i was I was literally in the store to get an Xbox when I was like, oh, this is in and in short supply.

25:38.14
Jaime G
Let me get this.

25:41.21
Tony Sisk
So if there was one game I did would want to own on my Switch 2, though, it would probably be Dave the Diver.

25:53.83
Tony Sisk
haven't thought about buying that have you?

25:54.35
Jaime G
it No, because I recently downloaded it from my PlayStation Plus catalog.

26:02.38
Tony Sisk
Right, because we talked about it last week in the last episode.

26:02.47
Jaime G
And... and

26:05.58
Tony Sisk
You asked me, you gave me a like a trio of games to pick from, and I i enthusiastically suggested that you should play Dave the Diver.

26:06.00
Jaime G
Yep.

26:16.31
Tony Sisk
So how did that go for you?

26:16.94
Jaime G
Yep. It's amazing. it's It's amazing. It's like... um Don't let the presentation that it looks like it's pixel art kind of deter you.

26:28.78
Jaime G
It's pixel art that's really well done.

26:29.11
Tony Sisk
Oh, no.

26:31.71
Tony Sisk
yeah The fact that it's pixel art doesn't even register that it's pixel art because it looks so good.

26:39.65
Jaime G
a at Right. But again, if you've only seen this game like much like i I had, only in pictures, um like websites and whatever, you're like, oh, that kind of questionable. it's It is not.

26:52.65
Jaime G
I mean, they make they make like a guy do sushi in pixel art, and it looks like legit, crisp, clean, fun. Tony, what did you think about all the characters in here?

27:06.48
Tony Sisk
I think they're hilarious.

27:06.64
Jaime G
Cobra, Bancho.

27:08.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Hilarious. It's like old school characters, like how they're, you know, over the top and they're like, when they, they talk, they're like super loud and just, it's funny.

27:14.93
Jaime G
They're so over the top, man. That's exactly it

27:21.47
Tony Sisk
I used to put, you know, back when I played, man, it was in the eighties.

27:21.55
Jaime G
it. the

27:26.80
Tony Sisk
There was a game. I don't know who gave it to me. It was a leisure suit. Larry. Did we play that game?

27:35.54
Jaime G
ah Wasn't there like a bunch of them?

27:38.65
Tony Sisk
Yeah, there probably was.

27:39.34
Jaime G
Yeah.

27:40.03
Tony Sisk
But basically, yeah, you, yeah.

27:40.17
Jaime G
Yeah. There was a bunch of leisers. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Tony, this is a family podcast. We can't be talking about leisure suit Larry.

27:46.60
Tony Sisk
I know, right? um Yeah. ah It kind of gave off those vibes of just how it looked in the presentation and how the characters talked and reacted and stuff like that. i like, the exact same thing.

27:59.67
Tony Sisk
um

27:59.79
Jaime G
Yeah.

28:00.47
Tony Sisk
So, yeah, it's great. It's great with the presentation. it's but the gameplay is so good. um just you know just diving and and going spearing for fish and stuff. like

28:14.18
Jaime G
but But beyond diving, you you have to manage a sushi bar. You have to hire staff. You have to collect fish, fauna.

28:27.51
Jaime G
At one point in time, i got, I mean, i'm I'm to the point where I even have like an aquarium that I have to maintain. There's so much to do.

28:38.45
Tony Sisk
Right. Dojo. It's fantastic.

28:40.90
Jaime G
and it's in it's And it's funny, man.

28:41.17
Tony Sisk
like

28:43.12
Jaime G
It is funny. like did you Did you get the reference about the Pokemon guy?

28:50.22
Tony Sisk
Yes. I think.

28:53.98
Jaime G
So, all right, all right.

28:54.13
Tony Sisk
I think I did.

28:56.11
Jaime G
So for everyone here listening, right, at some point, you start explore ah exploring the depths of the, what is it called? The Blue Lagoon?

29:06.18
Tony Sisk
Yeah, something like that.

29:07.51
Jaime G
The Blue Hole or something? don't know.

29:08.96
Tony Sisk
Blue Hole. Yeah, I think it's a hole.

29:10.71
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah. So, so ah this one guy shows up in this like little paddle boat.

29:11.97
Tony Sisk
It's been a while since played it. but

29:19.38
Jaime G
And as soon as he shows up based on the clothes that he's wearing, I was like, that looks like Ash Ketchum from the Pokemon series. and He's basically saying like, hey, I collect cards for all the different fish.

29:34.66
Jaime G
He's basically Ash Ketchum, right?

29:34.77
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

29:37.42
Jaime G
Yeah. But he's like, you know, this chubby older dude. Like Ash would be this this day. Oh, oh, Tony. And i I have to admit this.

29:50.11
Jaime G
The guy that makes the weapons, Duff, I can totally see myself as Duff.

29:52.97
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

29:58.38
Jaime G
He's like this this guy who's just like on his laptop. His laptop's got like anime stickers on it.

30:04.88
Tony Sisk
yeah

30:05.35
Jaime G
He sends you on a mission to collect one of his like anime statues. and And I'm laughing because I'm like, I have the same type of statues. My laptop is covered with the same stuff.

30:19.28
Jaime G
He plays video games.

30:23.48
Tony Sisk
That's funny.

30:24.95
Jaime G
Dude, I mean, I'm so happy that you recommended this game, but... for all you listeners here, i started playing this game. At some point in time, my son walks into the room and he's like, Dad, this game looks fun. I'm like, yes, it is. You should start your own save file. He's like, well, I've been watching you play this already. Can I just like take yours? so So for a while, there's like parts of the storyline that I've missed.

30:53.77
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

30:54.28
Jaime G
And now I've kind of like said, like can get out of here, son.

30:57.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

30:58.03
Jaime G
And so... So I've recuperated my, yeah.

30:59.95
Tony Sisk
but Start your own safe out.

31:02.38
Jaime G
But now there's like, I miss them, like some some bits and pieces, which I'm trying to connect the dots still. ah It's a great game. i'm I'm surprised. that this Again, it's not the first time that I've heard or read somewhere that it's a good game, but it's one of those that you have to try it out to really get the experience of it.

31:25.16
Jaime G
And I don't know how,

31:25.27
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I'm sure. it's It's one of those games that's like, oh, yo, this is on PS Plus. you know and Most people would be like, just pass right over it because it it's got that pixel art style, right?

31:34.29
Jaime G
Well, right. It's it's on PS Plus, it and you see the pixel art, right?

31:36.79
Tony Sisk
so

31:39.49
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but it just goes beyond the the pixel art and... It all works together. ah and it's

31:47.23
Jaime G
Yes.

31:47.89
Tony Sisk
it's ah it's It's just a fun game. And it's got so much going on too. And it's tying in all these different game, ah other game titles into it. Kind of making fun of them and stuff like that.

32:01.36
Tony Sisk
But yeah. Love that game.

32:04.14
Jaime G
Dude, dude, by the way, by the way, on PlayStation Plus or a PlayStation, there's two free DLC packs. Did you get them?

32:15.48
Tony Sisk
Oh, no. Which ones are they?

32:18.56
Jaime G
one One of them is called The the Trench. I haven't really gotten into it, but the other one is Godzilla.

32:24.94
Tony Sisk
Godzilla, yeah.

32:26.40
Jaime G
Godzilla goes into the blue.

32:26.46
Tony Sisk
Okay, it's free?

32:28.20
Jaime G
Yes, it's free.

32:31.17
Jaime G
I'm like, what?

32:35.06
Tony Sisk
Okay.

32:35.38
Jaime G
Yeah.

32:37.49
Tony Sisk
I'll check it out.

32:38.93
Jaime G
All right. Now, David the Diver was a pretty fantastic game. Let's talk about something else that was fantastic. And this is the Fantastic Four.

32:50.54
Jaime G
um

32:50.60
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

32:53.10
Jaime G
I personally haven't seen it. um Tony has. So Tony just, you know, for me and other listeners, this is going to be a spoiler-free reaction.

33:05.17
Tony Sisk
Yep.

33:05.93
Jaime G
or conversation?

33:07.44
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah. Spoiler-free conversation about the Fantastic Four. I think it's First Steps. It's like the subtitle. Yeah.

33:14.13
Jaime G
Yeah, I think that that's true.

33:16.89
Tony Sisk
ah win Went on opening night To the AMC Had great seats by the way I'm like man I got these seats like weeks ago And I couldn't remember what seats I got. And I didn't bother to look to see what seats I got until we actually got into the theater.

33:34.02
Tony Sisk
And man, dead center. Perfect. um So there's a little pat on the back there for being such a good ah ah ah movie ah reservist as far as reserving his movies.

33:50.39
Tony Sisk
um But anyway. Yeah, like past history, there's been like four or five Fantastic Four movies. And we've had this conversation. Like, I just don't get why people like Fantastic Four.

34:04.01
Jaime G
Yeah.

34:05.16
Tony Sisk
Because they're not, I mean, the Fantastic title, like I would not give title to of them. there's I've never really considered them fantastic.

34:17.85
Tony Sisk
I just have never, they've never appealed to me as heroes.

34:18.33
Jaime G
No.

34:21.12
Jaime G
Well, it it has more appeal than saying the lame o four.

34:24.89
Tony Sisk
yeah As a matter of fact, when dr when we the Doctor Strange movie where but he was going up against Wanda, came out a couple years ago, and they were in the alternate timeline,

34:35.89
Jaime G
Yeah. ah Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:40.71
Jaime G
There was a Reed Richards.

34:40.86
Tony Sisk
And there was a Reed Richards there and like a council of like superheroes.

34:42.22
Jaime G
Yep.

34:45.53
Tony Sisk
And they're like, oh yeah, we're going you know, deal with you. and she, you know, dealt with them instead. But she like, ah she made Reed Richards like turn into like it's a ball of string.

34:53.73
Jaime G
Yeah.

34:59.43
Tony Sisk
Basically, he just disintegrated into nothing.

35:02.41
Jaime G
He makes it like spaghetti.

35:04.17
Tony Sisk
Yeah, into spaghetti.

35:04.49
Jaime G
Yeah.

35:05.42
Tony Sisk
I was like, yeah, can't stand Fantastic Four.

35:11.29
Tony Sisk
um But having that kind of like, you know, disinterest in the in the characters themselves, like I'm like, I'm not really sure why I really want to see this movie other than it's Marvel movie.

35:25.29
Tony Sisk
I was, after watching it I'm actually ah fan of the Fantastic Four. This movie accomplished something I didn't think it was possible. It actually made me care about these characters.

35:37.90
Tony Sisk
I'm like, you know, Invisible Woman, you know, Sue Richards. um Pedro Pascal is great. It's like,

35:49.46
Tony Sisk
I think everybody has some Pedro Pascal fatigue right now. Like guy is in everything, right? It's like, you know, the last of us, you know, right.

35:56.58
Jaime G
He's had like four movies this year.

35:59.88
Tony Sisk
Yeah. like, man, this guy is in everything. There's no other male leads out there.

36:03.94
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

36:05.38
Tony Sisk
Like it's just Pedro Pascal.

36:06.31
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

36:10.08
Tony Sisk
Um, he does a great job. Uh, but I figured, you know, he would do a good job, but he did a really good job. His, uh, the, the, the actress that plays, um, I assume.

36:21.42
Jaime G
Vanessa Kirby.

36:23.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I don't even, I don't remember where she's, what she played in before. She does a fantastic job. They are. And even like, there's a scene and it's not really a spoiler, but it's kind of like,

36:36.59
Tony Sisk
you know, kind of, uh, like alludes to like, uh, the whole relationship between these four people. like, he's, it's right the very beginning of the movie. Um, Mr. Fantastic is like giving a monologue.

36:49.90
Tony Sisk
He's talking about like, I have, like, I have the opportunity to work with the four smartest people on the the ah three smartest people on the planet. My wife,

37:01.81
Tony Sisk
my best friend and my brother-in-law. I'm so lucky. And like, oh yeah, that's ironic, isn't it? You know, but, um, even, you know, Johnny, who I've never really liked as a character.

37:17.87
Tony Sisk
Also, i I really detested him as a character because I just, in all the movies, he's just, he's just of like a womanizer and that's what they all lean into.

37:25.28
Jaime G
Uh-huh. Well, that's that's that's his persona in the in the comic books too.

37:28.70
Tony Sisk
Right. Right. But, you know, they leaned into it like, oh, they just made it more womanizing. Right. Because all he's bringing to the story is, oh, you know, I can fly.

37:35.52
Jaime G
Yeah.

37:38.63
Tony Sisk
i can turn in a fire and I'm the good looking guy.

37:42.78
Jaime G
Yeah.

37:42.79
Tony Sisk
ah In this one, you know, he's still that he's still those things, but. He's also the caring brother, you know, the caring uncle, which he actually has personality.

37:56.05
Tony Sisk
Like he wants to impress for his his ability to contribute other than his good looks. You know, so it's like he's smart. Right. So it's like I can contribute something. I'm not just here.

38:11.56
Tony Sisk
you know, to flame out or what, you know, whatever the term is they used in the past flame on or whatever.

38:16.89
Jaime G
Flame on.

38:19.60
Tony Sisk
And then the, the rock guy.

38:23.77
Jaime G
The rock guy. The thing, man.

38:24.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

38:25.86
Jaime G
Benjamin Grimm.

38:26.07
Tony Sisk
The thing, the thing, ah you know, he's great too. I'm like, I really liked him. Like the actors really killed it. And that's what they make the movie. Like the story beautiful.

38:43.00
Tony Sisk
you know, is it's, it's not overly complex, you know, it's like, it makes sense how, how they deal with it, you know, it's really grounded in their emotions and how they deal with each other. And then and the, in the, in the people, you know, of the planet, so right. Like,

39:03.78
Tony Sisk
I don't want to his story, storylines, but yeah, it's like, basically, you know, you've got Galactus. So like, you know He's the planet eater. so You can put two and two together.

39:14.19
Jaime G
Yeah, he's the world ender, dude.

39:14.86
Tony Sisk
right so it's like yeah world in there so They have to deal with it. and You have the silver surfer who shows up you know as ah the messenger for Galactus. and Everything is done great. There's a scene...

39:31.64
Tony Sisk
where they go and, you know, they kind of go confront, they try to confront this danger that's coming to earth and, know, they kind of get the butts whooped and, um, they're trying to escape and there's a scene like near a black hole in space. And it's really awesome. Like, man, I'm, I was like, man, I wish I was in an IMAX because this was, this is like a fantastic, the imagery is fantastic.

40:00.97
Tony Sisk
Um, I'm thinking I want to go back and just watch the movie and like an IMAX just for this scene because it's

40:07.68
Jaime G
That's how they they they collide universes. Black hole.

40:13.13
Tony Sisk
maybe so. ah But, um, yeah, it's, it's great movie. I mean, i was really surprised. Like when the, when the credits rolled, I was like, man, that was really good.

40:27.27
Tony Sisk
mean, I would even say it was better than Superman. Um,

40:33.03
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I think I think i i might i might say it's it's close. It's close. There are two different types of movies, right? It's like, ah it's, right.

40:41.22
Jaime G
I was going to say, I mean, Superman is a different,

40:45.08
Tony Sisk
ah Superman is really over the top.

40:47.85
Jaime G
yeah, James Gunn.

40:47.91
Tony Sisk
um And this one is thinking it's, you know Fantastic Four is not necessarily an origin story. Both Superman and Fantastic Four kind of dealt with this the same way is they drop you into a ah universe where both all these characters have already established themselves.

41:07.57
Tony Sisk
Right. So I think in Fantastic Four, it's like four years after they've kind of gone through the transformation and gained their abilities and stuff.

41:14.66
Jaime G
Yeah.

41:15.17
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

41:15.33
Jaime G
yeah

41:16.48
Tony Sisk
So they have a history already of being super. And and the the world has kind of accepted that that they're now living in this type of world where there's superheroes. ah So you don't get an origin story.

41:33.32
Tony Sisk
But even though you don't get an origin story, it feels like ah standalone origin movie, right? Because the movie itself, ah there's some, there's some couple of things that are coming into play.

41:49.85
Tony Sisk
Like it's an alternate timeline. So usually, in past Fantastic Four movies. It's like, are what's our Earth number in Marvel's terms?

41:59.17
Jaime G
sex one six

42:00.56
Tony Sisk
Our Earth number 616. So this Earth number that they're in, their reality is like 898 or something like that. I could be off on the last two digits, but it might be 828.

42:13.14
Tony Sisk
But it's a different Earth. Yeah. And this earth is retro fifties, futuristic fifties. It's like and everybody's driving around in fifties cars, but they've got computers on their arms, you know, it's like, and they, and they have faster than light space travel available to them.

42:31.43
Tony Sisk
It's like weird. It's like, how do you have this technology, but you have this boxy looking crappy car, you know, from the fifties it's weird, but it looks really, really cool.

42:39.10
Jaime G
No.

42:42.74
Tony Sisk
Like, It's just something like the fifties and space work together. And, uh, and just like that. Have you ever been to Disney world and you go through like, uh, the, uh, the one ride at, uh, um,

43:01.85
Tony Sisk
where it's like looking into the future, but this ride was built in like 1960. Yeah.

43:07.02
Jaime G
no

43:07.24
Tony Sisk
Yeah. yeah It's like that. It's like, they took that, those ideas. It's like, Oh, this is what, you know, what the future is going to look like in the year 2000. And it's, you know, it's the year fifth, 1950 when they did it. And it's, it's kind of like that visual, but it works really well for this movie.

43:26.91
Tony Sisk
But, you know, it's ah It has a lot going for it that makes it makes it really good.

43:31.20
Jaime G
yeah

43:34.43
Jaime G
I'm just like having like a flashback of something you just said. Back in the day, Conan O'Brien used to have like a skit that was called In the Year 2000, where him and Andy Richter would be like, you know, In the Year 2000.

43:44.82
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

43:50.85
Jaime G
And then like Domino's Pizza will be you know baked in your refrigerator or some stuff like that. Yeah.

43:59.81
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

44:00.13
Jaime G
um You just said something and I just remembered that skit.

44:06.14
Tony Sisk
Yeah. It's, I mean, they've got a robot that I don't remember the robot's name.

44:10.49
Jaime G
Herbie.

44:11.81
Tony Sisk
Yeah. He's super smart. It's like, we don't even have that now. Yeah. He can do anything. He could pilot the ship that they're flying

44:21.23
Jaime G
And do the marinara sauce.

44:23.23
Tony Sisk
and and cook dinner. Like, wow. like the Like the technology is like all over the place and how you would think it would work. It's like, you know,

44:37.86
Tony Sisk
it's it's it's a fun movie.

44:38.13
Jaime G
Interesting. Interesting. I mean, this is, this is, again, I didn't have a lot of high hopes. I, I think ah at least you hearing say this is, is a step in the right direction.

44:52.22
Jaime G
ah But let's, I'm going to check it out. I mean, I was about to go check it out yesterday and my wife pulled a, pulled a noddle and she's like, you ain't going without us.

45:03.91
Jaime G
I'm like, I told you I was going to watch this movie this weekend and y'all made plans.

45:11.53
Tony Sisk
All

45:11.63
Jaime G
And she gave me one of those like, well, go and see it where you know that you're in trouble if you do.

45:19.56
Tony Sisk
right.

45:22.53
Jaime G
So, so I think, I think that's, what that's when I texted you like, Hey, I won't be, I won't be seeing this movie this weekend.

45:23.12
Tony Sisk
alright

45:30.44
Tony Sisk
Right. oh It's good. It'll still be there. i see it playing in the theater for a while. It won't be one of those. It just disappears overnight. Yep.

45:42.88
Jaime G
i but I do want to bring up something Tony um and you and I were talking about this before Thunderbolts after seeing Fantastic Four and we we had we both generally said that Thunderbolts was a good movie would you put this higher ranking on par or lower than Thunderbolts

45:59.96
Tony Sisk
yep

46:06.48
Tony Sisk
Okay. I'm going to answer your question real quick on that, ah but there is a follow-up I want to get into because I thought up I was thinking about this today. But to answer your question, it's it's better than Thunderbolts.

46:21.53
Jaime G
Okay, cool.

46:22.16
Tony Sisk
um But my follow-up is um if you watch the end credit scene in Thunderbolts, they show the ship of the Fantastic Four approaching Earth 616 timeline.

46:36.71
Jaime G
yes

46:40.32
Tony Sisk
um And that's where you were like, oh, do they show this scene in this movie? They do not show that scene in this movie, right? like There is no connection between the two Earths that pops up in this movie.

46:53.20
Jaime G
There's got to be. We just saw it in Thunderbolts.

46:56.62
Tony Sisk
No, does not. Does not show up. So it must be something that happens later on. However, i was thinking about this and I was like, they're bringing this Fantastic Four group into our timeline.

47:13.53
Tony Sisk
and there were and they But they showed it in the Thunderbolts movie in-credits scene, right?

47:19.05
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

47:22.58
Tony Sisk
And we talked about how we Marvel needed Fantastic Four to be successful, right?

47:31.53
Jaime G
it we We did say that it needed to be good because the next phase or the remain remainder of the phase really hinges on this team joining the fray.

47:31.75
Tony Sisk
Or they were going to be. Yeah.

47:42.95
Tony Sisk
Right. So my concern is, and I have a concern. My concern is the chemistry that will, that will exist between the 10 fantastic four, that they just showed in this movie and the Thunderbolts crew, because I don't feel in the Avengers.

48:04.71
Jaime G
And the Avengers.

48:06.96
Tony Sisk
I don't feel how this, how this is going to, vi the vibe is going to work. There's like different energy, you know what I'm saying?

48:17.51
Tony Sisk
Which you may need, but that may be a thing and they they they're going to make it work somehow.

48:17.97
Jaime G
Yeah.

48:23.59
Jaime G
Well, well, what, couldn't you have said the same thing a couple of years back when you're, when, when the audience were saying like,

48:24.48
Tony Sisk
But I'm like,

48:32.05
Jaime G
How is the Guardians of the Galaxy going to work with the Avengers?

48:36.75
Tony Sisk
that's true. And they were definitely different, totally different. And they blended them together. But you didn't see Gardens of the Galaxy with Iron Man and and Captain America until the very final two movies.

48:50.14
Tony Sisk
Right? Like, there wasn't a lot of crossover between them until at the very end when they they needed to all team up.

48:55.91
Jaime G
Wait. But you had like of couple of hilarious sequences of the Guardians of the Galaxy with Thor.

49:05.62
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah. Which, they kind of work together. Like, four Thor's hilariousness and and you know, ah Peter Quill ah they kind of work together.

49:09.40
Jaime G
Yeah. Yep.

49:20.91
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

49:21.27
Tony Sisk
um um I'm like really interested in seeing how

49:28.27
Tony Sisk
the Fantastic Four that we just saw in this movie gels in an Avenger group. Like, we don't even know which Avenger group they would be gelling with. Like, because you have Captain America who's trying to form his own team.

49:43.58
Tony Sisk
Right?

49:43.69
Jaime G
So there's like there's like some speculation.

49:43.70
Tony Sisk
Right.

49:46.72
Jaime G
The rumor mill on the net, man, says that Reed Richards is not going to take the helm of the teams. it's going You're going to see like a dynamic between Anthony Mackie, the Captain America, and um Florence Pugh, Black Widow, kind of reign the group together.

50:09.89
Tony Sisk
Right. I can see that. I can see that because one, who's going to accept a guy from a new guy from a totally different earth being in charge?

50:17.48
Jaime G
These new guys.

50:21.51
Jaime G
Right. Uh-huh.

50:22.51
Tony Sisk
You know what saying? Nobody's going to accept that.

50:28.16
Tony Sisk
And then, of course, you know,

50:31.23
Tony Sisk
America being America they're going to want being control so they want their Captain America to be in control so um they're not going to let some Russian reject head it up so you know it's going to be interesting I don't know how they're going to bring all these teams together so

50:36.74
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

50:50.87
Jaime G
Well, I mean, i I kind of want to say that six years ago. No, not even six years ago, man. No, no, no Felix must have been one.

51:01.94
Jaime G
um Eight years ago, i was right here pondering the exact same thing. How are they going to make all these teams work together for Avengers Endgame?

51:12.34
Tony Sisk
Right.

51:16.50
Tony Sisk
Right.

51:16.92
Jaime G
And they did.

51:18.52
Tony Sisk
I think, but I think that they need to like, you know, they're the, they're the ones in charge of it. They can do whatever they want, but like in this movie, Fantastic Four, you kind of get a closer, you know, connection with the characters where,

51:39.51
Tony Sisk
in like Thunderbolts, you get a closer connection with, you know, Black Widow. Right.

51:46.18
Jaime G
Yeah. Uh-huh.

51:47.12
Tony Sisk
But you still need some fleshing out with the other characters and stuff. And then, you know, I never really feel like the Captain America is like, was it Sam? Well, Sam Wilson's Captain America. Like, even though he's had the TV show and he's had, he's been in a couple of other movies and stuff like, like they need to do more.

52:09.17
Tony Sisk
to, you know, they need, he needs some more standalone movies or something like that. I don't know. Like they need to be more movies, like the original movies where they had, like you had an Iron Man trilogy and you had the Thor trilogy and you had like, you got to really know those characters.

52:27.76
Jaime G
Right,

52:29.08
Tony Sisk
like they They need to like lay that foundation going forward. And that way you could bring it together you know something from that.

52:40.19
Tony Sisk
like when When you would do the team focus, like everybody is like like, you have the Thunderboats team and then you're going to have the Fantastic Four team. like We have a lot of teams going on.

52:53.79
Jaime G
right, right, right.

52:54.17
Tony Sisk
we So I don't know.

52:58.88
Jaime G
Well, okay, just just to kind of put this into but into perspective, Thunderbolts first weekend open up opened up to a ah respectable $74 million.

53:13.31
Jaime G
Fantastic Four opened up domestically, not internationally, to $118 million. um Okay, so Fantastic Four doing better.

53:25.20
Jaime G
But this kind of said made me realize how much better it is doing. Thunderbolts in its overall run worldwide... raked in 382 million, okay? three eighty two 382. And this is ah across like several weekends in the movie theaters.

53:46.02
Jaime G
Fantastic Four worldwide right now is tracking at 218. So in one weekend alone is what I was telling you, Tony, it's already reached reached the 50% point of what Thunderbolts accumulated.

53:52.79
Tony Sisk
Right.

53:59.37
Tony Sisk
Yeah. It'll probably be close to 400 million by the end of this upcoming weekend.

54:01.35
Jaime G
I

54:05.04
Tony Sisk
So.

54:05.71
Jaime G
Exactly. So I really, I'm surprised. Okay. Cause again, Thunderbolts, I said it would probably make like 600 million, not 600,000.

54:17.47
Jaime G
And I was like, short, this one, I would have not thought that it was going to be opening up as strong as it's, as it's doing. But hey, Marvel needed a win.

54:30.12
Jaime G
Marvel needs to set up the foundation so that you know the next Avengers movies just come out and crush it.

54:35.10
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is definitely a win. I mean, Thunderbolts was, I thought, a win. It wasn't a win in the financials, though. Yeah.

54:46.20
Jaime G
I think it did great with the audiences, though. I mean, everyone that I know who saw it was like, yo, you know,

54:48.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

54:54.13
Jaime G
ah i i was I mean, my my wife is an example. She was she hated the the new Black Widow character before the movie. After the movie, she's like, she's solid.

55:05.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So, uh, yeah, they knew that they needed this one to be good and it is so now they can, they can, can continue on but with it with whatever story that they're going to be telling, but they don't have to worry about the, you know, answering for you guys don't know what you're doing.

55:13.36
Jaime G
ye

55:26.46
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

55:28.96
Jaime G
I mean, what's what's left between now and now and the next Avengers movie? I mean, there's really no other movies that are coming out. Maybe Spider-Man? And Spider-Man, for for better worse, is kind of its own standalone thing.

55:41.31
Tony Sisk
Well, Doctor Doom. Doctor Doom.

55:46.10
Jaime G
Oh, but Doctor Doom is in the Avengers.

55:46.35
Tony Sisk
Right?

55:50.45
Tony Sisk
Right. He's not the Avengers.

55:52.71
Jaime G
yeah But there's nice i mean there's no other movies now between now and the big climax.

56:03.07
Tony Sisk
We'll see. I don't know. You know how they drop movies out of nowhere. Yeah.

56:10.08
Tony Sisk
It's like video games.

56:10.20
Jaime G
Yeah, that's true.

56:11.46
Tony Sisk
Where'd this come from?

56:11.75
Jaime G
Yeah, right. Dave the Diver, what? It's good.

56:16.04
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Alright, well, that's all I got. You got anything else?

56:24.75
Jaime G
This is episode 148, my friend. We're two episodes away from hitting that big 150 milestone.

56:31.80
Tony Sisk
Nice. Yeah, 150. Crazy. Um. crazy

56:34.42
Jaime G
Yeah.

56:35.43
Tony Sisk
um Yes. I mean, can't wait to kind of come up with something to do for episode 150. I don't know what we're going to do, but go do something. And if you want to help us do something, yeah.

56:46.54
Jaime G
I got an idea. i got an idea.

56:50.76
Tony Sisk
What's that?

56:52.44
Jaime G
I probably won't spoil it here. I'll tell you i'll tell you it's separate.

56:55.36
Tony Sisk
Okay.

56:56.55
Jaime G
yeah

56:56.57
Tony Sisk
Cool. Awesome. Well, ah all right. I want to say thank you to everybody who's listening, who's been listening or, you know, You know, our listenership is continuing to grow. It's great.

57:11.21
Tony Sisk
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57:27.83
Tony Sisk
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57:31.47
Jaime G
Thank you.

57:37.30
Tony Sisk
so You can do that too. so but We really appreciate everybody listening and taking the time out of the day to give us a listen, whether it be, know, on the ride into work or driving home, we're just sitting in there, you know, in their, in their room at home and then, and chilling out, listen to us.

57:55.71
Tony Sisk
Uh, it's amazing that we get the um opportunity to do that. So we, we really love doing the show and hope to do more. So we'll catch you guys in the next episode. See you later.

58:08.78
Tony Sisk
Bye.

58:09.41
Jaime G
Peace out.