Metal Gear Solid Delta: Stealth, Graphics, and Janky Controls!

Does Metal Gear Solid Delta nail the landing or is it just a gorgeous-looking disappointment?

 We’re dropping into the jungle to give our full, unfiltered review of the MGS3 remake. The visuals are stunning, but as one host put it: the controls are still "janky." 😬

We discuss:

The high bar set by the original.

Why a pure graphical upgrade isn't always enough.

Is the inconsistent performance and clunky feel a dealbreaker for fans?

 #MetalGearSolidDelta #MGS3 #SnakeEater #MetalGear #Remake #Good2GameRadio #Podcast #Gaming #PS5 #Xbox #StealthGame 

Transcript

00:00:00.19
Jaime G
In 2019, yeah, that's what I thought. And then um all of a sudden, it was like you get like a handful, dude, I kid you not, like a handful of teaser trailers.

00:00:16.32
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:00:16.55
Jaime G
Like this this game is still development. It's still alive. And it was supposed to be DLC for Hollow Knight. And then all of a sudden, it's announced.

00:00:27.64
Jaime G
Two weeks ago, what game awards or what? There was like a game award or something that recently happened.

00:00:32.03
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:00:35.30
Jaime G
And they announced it there again, like after like two years of no trailers. And it's like, hey, it comes out literally in two weeks.

00:00:43.50
Tony Sisk
It's like GamesCon, something like that.

00:00:45.51
Jaime G
Maybe.

00:00:48.22
Tony Sisk
Yeah, it was that's weird because like you said, you brought it up. You're like, oh, let's talk about, well, maybe talk about some Silksong. And I looked on a video and it's like, Silksong is dropping on September 4th.

00:01:03.72
Tony Sisk
And that's the first I'd seen of a ah date. for the game, um and it just seemed like out of nowhere.

00:01:09.79
Jaime G
Yes.

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Jaime G
Yeah.

00:01:16.18
Tony Sisk
so

00:01:17.40
Jaime G
and and i And I think this is kind of what I want to talk about. I mean, as gamers, I have no complaints about it, but the fact that it launched without like, it just like literally shadowed, released, or, you know, it's going to be.

00:01:34.01
Jaime G
I didn't plan for this. And I've heard that this little indie game that's going to cut retail for 20 bucks has already made some other games push their release dates because of this.

00:01:52.96
Tony Sisk
Interesting. I didn't know that it was considered that impactful of a game.

00:01:59.77
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:02:00.02
Tony Sisk
I'm like, ah because I'm like, I know we've seen marketing. We've seen some marketing on this, on this game, but I didn't know that it would, a game of magnitude to cause other gamers to shift their, their dates.

00:02:18.22
Tony Sisk
I mean, it's a, 2D platformer. Is it a side-scroller?

00:02:23.93
Jaime G
Yeah, it's a Metroidvania.

00:02:25.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Okay, so... Interesting. I know that you've you've been really excited for the game.

00:02:30.25
Jaime G
But I meant...

00:02:32.56
Tony Sisk
And that it was...

00:02:33.07
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:02:34.57
Tony Sisk
Now, the Xbox ah Rogue Ally X, the handheld ah partnership with Asus...

00:02:42.97
Jaime G
When they announced the video, they they they showed like some gameplay of Silksong on it.

00:02:48.85
Tony Sisk
Now, that that system is dropping this week, too. so Is Silk Song going to be on there? I know that it's um going to be on Xbox on the 4th when it drops, but will it be on Game Pass or something like that?

00:02:59.78
Jaime G
Right.

00:03:04.87
Jaime G
really is but But I remember that they they actually, because there was like a ah ah brief snippet of Silksong on the video for the Rogue Ally, they actually came back and put a statement saying, no, Silksong is not going to be a release game for the Rogue Ally.

00:03:27.44
Jaime G
And by the way, well, it's still it's still a a bit out because the that thing is releasing on October.

00:03:34.23
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:03:36.93
Tony Sisk
Gotcha.

00:03:38.52
Jaime G
And they still haven't said how much it's going to cost.

00:03:43.36
Tony Sisk
and And were you still thinking about picking it up? Because you just picked up Switch 2.

00:03:47.85
Jaime G
Yeah, yeah.

00:03:48.64
Tony Sisk
the

00:03:49.01
Jaime G
I actually, i just just literally made that commitment.

00:03:56.57
Jaime G
And I don't think I can.

00:03:58.94
Tony Sisk
you You can't convince the wife that you're going to go to Best Buy, pick up an Xbox, and come home with a with the handheld instead of the Series X.

00:04:05.98
Jaime G
yeah Yeah. I mean, ill already pulled that once. so I don't know if I can do it again.

00:04:15.14
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:04:15.69
Jaime G
Yeah. I really was going to pick up the Xbox, man. I mean, like, no lie. And then I figured, okay, if there's a handheld where I can, you know, you know, play my games too, was like, Why not? It's a no brainer.

00:04:28.68
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:04:30.60
Jaime G
But...

00:04:31.09
Tony Sisk
I'm assuming this thing is dropping on the... Yeah, Hollow Knight or Silksong for Nintendo Switch. It's dropping on the Switch.

00:04:45.52
Jaime G
For 20 bucks though, I'd still rather get it on the PlayStation.

00:04:50.89
Jaime G
That's the other thing. This game is making... It's on the cheap.

00:04:58.36
Tony Sisk
Yeah, $20 is cheap.

00:05:00.55
Jaime G
Yeah, and when I got there the original Silksong, it was like a PlayStation Plus game, but it was like with all the DLC.

00:05:00.59
Tony Sisk
I mean...

00:05:07.33
Jaime G
I was like, oh.

00:05:09.12
Tony Sisk
I almost pulled the trigger on the original Hollow Knight last night. It's on sale for $7 on Steam. And I don't have it on my Steam Deck.

00:05:17.17
Jaime G
Is it the... If it's the... if it's what they call the Voidheart edition, that has all the DLC.

00:05:22.86
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:05:27.60
Tony Sisk
Yeah. I almost pulled a trigger.

00:05:28.90
Jaime G
and And I don't know.

00:05:30.49
Tony Sisk
Then I saw that Silk Song was dropping on four on the 4th. I'm like, well, maybe I should just play Silk Song. Is it a standalone? it's it's Or is it DLC? What is it, actually?

00:05:40.19
Jaime G
so Okay, so Silksong was... and I mean, should we be recording this? Are we already recording?

00:05:45.13
Tony Sisk
We are recording it.

00:05:46.58
Jaime G
Okay. Silksong was originally meant to be a DLC for Hollow Knight. Now, I don't know the real story behind why they did a flip-flop, but I will tell you this.

00:06:02.11
Jaime G
I suspect that it was... uh, announced to be its own thing because technically Hollow Knight, where it ends after like a couple of DLCs, it has a very clear ending, right?

00:06:17.94
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:06:18.46
Jaime G
So if you continue adding lore to this, I don't know if it impacts the story that they told when I think that they really told it really well.

00:06:29.47
Jaime G
Um, So they just said, okay, let's just grab the thing that we're working on and let's just make it it its own full-blown game based on the same universe with some characters that show that ah were part of the Hollow Knight lore.

00:06:38.54
Tony Sisk
ah and

00:06:46.94
Tony Sisk
okay

00:06:48.29
Jaime G
Yeah.

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Tony Sisk
Yeah, it's available on PC, Switch, Switch 2, PS4, PS5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series consoles.

00:06:57.59
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:07:00.76
Tony Sisk
Basically everywhere. Yeah.

00:07:02.35
Jaime G
Yeah, I mean, Hollow Knight was such a Metroidvania hidden gem. It came out unknown publisher, unknown like a lot of stuff.

00:07:15.69
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:07:15.96
Jaime G
And it just it was a solid, solid, really good game. And and i I actually passed on it several times. It wasn't until like a coworker that also played video games, he told me like, hey,

00:07:30.31
Jaime G
you need to play this game. there's it's It's a little bit special. And I remember as soon as he said that, like within like a really small timeframe, it came out on PS Plus.

00:07:42.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but I picked up my copy of it on PS5 when it was on PS Plus.

00:07:43.06
Jaime G
And I was like, okay, let me.

00:07:47.24
Jaime G
Right.

00:07:49.71
Jaime G
Right, right, right, right. So I was like, sure, why not? Let's give it whirl. let's give it ah whirl And I couldn't put that game down. like Like legit, there was like so many things in here and it just kept on pushing you, pushing you to figure out the whole story.

00:08:07.50
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:08:08.56
Jaime G
And it does it in a really interesting way because the main character never, ever, ever says a word.

00:08:17.89
Jaime G
Yet it manages to build this huge environment and huge world

00:08:18.43
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:08:23.83
Jaime G
that you're really enjoying. And dude, there's one side quest that kind of, it tore me up, man.

00:08:36.19
Jaime G
It tore me up. There's this, this side quest where like, there's, I mean, all of this is like small insects, right?

00:08:44.58
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:08:44.82
Jaime G
um The main character gets goes into this room and there's like a, like a caterpillar and the caterpillar is crying. And again, there's not a lot of dialogue here, okay?

00:08:56.57
Jaime G
and So the caterpillar's crying, Tony.

00:08:56.97
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah.

00:08:59.98
Jaime G
and And it's because there's like a bunch of little larva that you find throughout the game that if you find them, they make their there's their way back to the caterpillar room, right?

00:09:13.41
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:09:13.94
Jaime G
And so you're playing this... um for like several hours trying to figure out where all the the characters are. Some of them were like really difficult to get because you had to like, it's a platformer. So you have to do like very specific things. It's not easy platformer.

00:09:35.34
Jaime G
And finally you get all of them, right? um

00:09:38.98
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:09:40.92
Jaime G
And it was, again, it was this this one particular side quest. I had just, it was gri grubs. There was 46 grubs in the hole and and and the game. Well, after you find all the 46 grubs and you send them all back, you know, you're playing the game and at some point you're like, oh, let me go back to this place. Maybe there's going to be a reward for completing all of this.

00:10:05.64
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:10:06.80
Jaime G
Well, you're you go into the room and you noticed you basically notice that the all the small grubs were eaten by the big grub.

00:10:21.93
Jaime G
so So this whole time, you think you're you think you're like reuniting the family.

00:10:27.75
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:10:28.30
Jaime G
and And when you do this, you just feel like, I should have not completed this side quest.

00:10:35.26
Tony Sisk
OK.

00:10:37.23
Jaime G
but it does it in such a way that it has impact when you play this.

00:10:44.87
Jaime G
So, so it's, a this game came out in 2018.

00:10:45.57
Tony Sisk
and okay

00:10:49.77
Jaime G
I don't think that, you know, it's a spoiler for somebody who didn't pick it up then.

00:10:54.74
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:10:57.31
Jaime G
So if you're going to play it Tony, just remember, watch out for them grubs.

00:11:02.60
Tony Sisk
Right. Like I said, i almost got it last night for the the original on the ah Steam Deck. So I might pick it up. was like, oh, do I play the original? Do I play the the new game first and then go back and play the original?

00:11:19.55
Tony Sisk
You know, kind of backwards. I don't think it makes a difference, does it?

00:11:24.35
Jaime G
um I hope not.

00:11:28.26
Tony Sisk
Right?

00:11:31.10
Tony Sisk
Yeah. That's cool. I mean, Shadow Drop. It's not a Shadow Drop, but it's like, you know, just out of the blue.

00:11:37.79
Jaime G
but Let's call it a surprise release.

00:11:38.94
Tony Sisk
$20, too.

00:11:41.99
Jaime G
Right.

00:11:43.40
Tony Sisk
not badge Not bad, not bad. There was another game that released last week, ah the remastered of Gears of War on PS5.

00:11:44.84
Jaime G
It's not bad.

00:11:50.32
Tony Sisk
I think it was only $39.

00:11:51.79
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:11:52.86
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah?

00:11:55.30
Jaime G
J-Rod's playing it.

00:11:56.92
Tony Sisk
oh yeah

00:11:57.42
Jaime G
And he sent me some pictures of you know the beginning of it. He's like, it's fun, but it's kind of he he he didn't rave too much about it. He was trying to get me to to hop in and play it with him.

00:12:09.65
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah.

00:12:11.65
Jaime G
i was like, dude, I only played it on the original Xbox 360. good. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:12:19.15
Tony Sisk
a game I have been diving back into was Helldivers 2. I've been playing that.

00:12:23.36
Jaime G
right

00:12:25.85
Tony Sisk
You know, you forget how fun that game is. It's super fun game.

00:12:31.02
Jaime G
yeah

00:12:31.60
Tony Sisk
And the now it's on Xbox. Lots of new divers out there.

00:12:36.25
Jaime G
ah So do you think it's going to get like brand new life and on Xbox?

00:12:44.56
Tony Sisk
Well, I mean, the server numbers hit like 500,000 plus. So...

00:12:51.34
Jaime G
It's not bad.

00:12:53.72
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. I don't get like some of the videos, oh, hedi Xbox so divers, you know, bring new heights to the game. I'm like...

00:13:07.13
Tony Sisk
which I appreciate. um But I think I remember back when this game was at its peak, you know, the first six months after it released. Did it did it not hit like 800,000 concurrent players at one time?

00:13:22.34
Tony Sisk
Was up there? Like you could never get into the game. I remember like, oh, you had the back door into the game.

00:13:27.30
Jaime G
Oh, i I remember that.

00:13:30.94
Tony Sisk
You had the back door in the game who to somebody that was already in the game.

00:13:31.22
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:13:35.45
Jaime G
Yes.

00:13:36.40
Tony Sisk
Because the servers were so clogged. that But I don't know. I mean, what what's the highest player count for this?

00:13:47.86
Tony Sisk
Helldivers 2.

00:13:48.04
Jaime G
This is interesting.

00:13:48.50
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:13:49.00
Jaime G
So I'm going back to Steam charts and it says that Helldivers 2 currently still has 117,000 players it.

00:13:52.55
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:13:55.90
Jaime G
But it said that Steam peaked at 163,000. That doesn't sound right. Oh, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. It peaked at ah hundred and sixty three thousand that doesn't sound right

00:14:09.66
Tony Sisk
That's not right.

00:14:10.10
Jaime G
oh wait wait way no no no

00:14:15.94
Jaime G
it peak that almost 500,000 back in February No. Right. it was it says like around four hundred and forty thousand

00:14:28.79
Tony Sisk
On Steam.

00:14:30.05
Jaime G
on steam

00:14:30.17
Tony Sisk
that didn't That did not include p s five users.

00:14:35.58
Jaime G
now

00:14:35.98
Tony Sisk
which Which I think I remember at the time, they thought that there were more PS5 players than there were Steam players at one at one time.

00:14:45.44
Jaime G
right

00:14:49.26
Tony Sisk
So that's what I was kind of thinking. It's like, yeah, the numbers were hovering up there, close to a million players, even though they weren't all on Steam. Yeah.

00:14:56.34
Jaime G
yeah But it definitely messed up the servers because I remember just like waiting 10 plus minutes to to hop on ah on a lobby. And yo, man, there's one listener. i can't remember his name. I fucking can probably remember it. But I hopped on ah on a team with him.

00:15:16.60
Jaime G
some and And you know I'm like, yo, I'm here. And he's like, one of our other friends just hopped in and they kicked me off. So I was waiting, dude.

00:15:28.68
Tony Sisk
ah

00:15:29.05
Jaime G
was waiting for it to be allowed to be on the servers. And then when I got it, I got booted off the island.

00:15:36.30
Tony Sisk
but Right.

00:15:36.45
Jaime G
I was upset. I remember going and playing Tekken after that. I was like, I'm not going to put up with this 10 more minutes.

00:15:41.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah, ah because Tekken was out at the same time, I think, around the same time.

00:15:45.70
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah, so I was juggling this in Tekken.

00:15:46.50
Tony Sisk
so

00:15:47.96
Jaime G
So after that specific incident, I was like, I'm out.

00:15:53.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I remember I would get on the server till like 10 o'clock at night and then there'd be like a bunch of us playing till like after midnight every night.

00:16:04.78
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:16:05.00
Tony Sisk
oh

00:16:06.03
Jaime G
I mean, it it worked well.

00:16:09.54
Tony Sisk
Yeah, right now I'm just kind of running solo, just trying to get my groove back.

00:16:14.82
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:16:14.97
Tony Sisk
ah for It's amazing. It's like, man, I just played this game like a year ago. now I'm like, I don't remember how to do anything. And they've added so much more content. like there's You have the Illuminate that are added, and yeah they have cities, and you know.

00:16:32.95
Tony Sisk
ah vehicles, just, you know all kinds of new stratagems and stuff like that. It's like, I haven't, I have no idea like what is good, you know, so got to learn that all over, but you know,

00:16:49.23
Jaime G
Hey, now now you got a bunch of Xbox players to learn this with.

00:16:54.79
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, it's just a good game. It's a solid, solid game. So, that's what I've been playing here the last week or so.

00:17:06.11
Tony Sisk
Um, I debated picking up, uh, ah Metal Gear Solid.

00:17:15.80
Tony Sisk
Delta. I didn't because I didn't feel like spending the money.

00:17:17.33
Jaime G
yeah

00:17:20.29
Jaime G
Well,

00:17:21.01
Tony Sisk
Because I'm waiting on, and this is what, I changed mine. I decided that I'm very interested in Borderlands 4, which is coming out in like two weeks.

00:17:31.06
Tony Sisk
So, yeah.

00:17:31.99
Jaime G
it's about to release, yes.

00:17:34.14
Tony Sisk
So I was like, okay, well, I'll save my money for Borderlands.

00:17:36.93
Jaime G
Well, I'm kind of glad that you didn't pick up medicare better MGS Delta, man.

00:17:44.37
Jaime G
and And maybe it's an opportunity to segue to that game.

00:17:47.92
Tony Sisk
Mm-hmm.

00:17:49.33
Jaime G
Okay, so for for the listeners who might have listened to, we dropped some hints about this a couple episodes ago that in preparation for this the release of this game, Tony sent us like five essays to read. and and And he was like, yo, if we're going to review this game, we're going to do this right So he sent us a bunch of material to like catch up. And you know I read some of it. I'm not going to say I read all of it. But I did i did read it, man.

00:18:28.52
Jaime G
Anyway, it released. I picked it up. I have it here in my hand, Tony. And I have, dun, dun, dun.

00:18:33.59
Tony Sisk
Gallup.

00:18:35.92
Jaime G
And on my other hand, i have the original Metal Gear Solid 3 for the PlayStation 2. Mint condition. Dude, this thing's so old.

00:18:48.27
Jaime G
It has like this note down here that I never, I didn't remember it had. It said online enable for broadband and dial up. Dial up.

00:18:59.32
Tony Sisk
gallop

00:19:01.02
Jaime G
it I kid you not. It says right there.

00:19:03.61
Tony Sisk
There's people out there going, what's dollop?

00:19:05.97
Jaime G
Yeah, right?

00:19:06.44
Tony Sisk
Uh-huh.

00:19:08.36
Jaime G
Well, here's the thing. Okay, let's let's let's kind of step back and and let's start with a put good before I go into entit any negative stuff. This game looks beautiful.

00:19:19.41
Jaime G
This game, um I think from a developer standpoint, this is the vision that they set out to accomplish, but the technology just wasn't there back in the day.

00:19:31.24
Jaime G
ah If you remember like old, um maybe PlayStation 1, PlayStation 2 era games, whatever characters like would show like their hands or something. They were like always squarish.

00:19:42.76
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:19:42.92
Jaime G
They weren't like the details. so There's a lot of stealth in the game where you're trying to hide through the bushes. And at the time, it was just like, at some point, there was like green pixels is all over.

00:19:55.65
Jaime G
It looks great, right? it just it From back when it originally released to this, visually it's amazing right here's the thing that is kind of hard to get through even on whatever performance or quality mode you set it up you don't get 60 fps consistently and you can tell

00:20:27.06
Jaime G
um Even to the point that I was watching some guy, I don't have a PS5 Pro, but one guy was actually doing like some some reviews and this guy was just just went off. He was like, the PS5 Pro sometimes drops even harder than the regular PS5 version.

00:20:46.30
Tony Sisk
oh

00:20:47.16
Jaime G
So he was like, this is crazy. like you have If you have the optimized consoles that's good that's supposed to take care of these things for whatever reason, it just doesn't do it.

00:20:55.15
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:20:55.52
Jaime G
um And he was like showing like the videos with like the frame rate capture. And i was like, oh, interesting. So that tells me that there's going to be like some patches that are going to be coming up to fix this. But gameplay-wise, Tony, how many remakes have we played recently? Resident Evil 4, Dead Space, what else?

00:21:13.46
Tony Sisk
Right. ah

00:21:16.82
Tony Sisk
I mean, a bunch of the Resident Evil ones.

00:21:23.20
Tony Sisk
I don't remember, but it's been a lot. Oh, Final Fantasy? Was that one?

00:21:29.25
Jaime G
Yes.

00:21:30.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:21:30.46
Jaime G
Right. and And here's the thing. Here's the thing that I, all of these remakes, they always enhance the graphics, but they also enhance the gameplay.

00:21:43.46
Tony Sisk
Mm-hmm.

00:21:43.71
Jaime G
Sometimes I'll admit I've been the guy who's been saying, ah you know what, maybe i will I can be quoted and said, maybe we didn't need a Resident Evil 4 remake because it was such a good game. But when it came out, it had a lot of good things.

00:21:58.07
Jaime G
Quality of life improve improvements, so to say, the characters responded better, ah the weapons, et cetera.

00:22:06.59
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:22:06.71
Jaime G
This game, and i'm hunt I'm holding up here the two boxes between this one and this one.

00:22:10.96
Tony Sisk
Silent Hill. Silent Hill.

00:22:12.93
Jaime G
Silent Hill. Yes, that's another one. Between these two, it's only a graphical enhancement. the The controls are still janky. There's a couple things that I was like, what?

00:22:26.32
Jaime G
You still had to do this? I mean, there's there's things that they just didn't fix. It's literally, Tony, the same exact game as it was, what, 20 years ago?

00:22:41.14
Tony Sisk
Well, that's not good because I just bought the remastered version on my my Steam Deck and I can't play it because the controls are so janky.

00:22:41.62
Jaime G
And there's

00:22:52.33
Jaime G
they're They're still like that. They really are.

00:22:54.27
Tony Sisk
yeah I just gave up. I'm like, I can't play this.

00:22:58.63
Jaime G
Right. Well, it's like... um It actually was released in 2004. So what did I say? 20 years? It was actually 21 years at this point. It really... And it's like these things are here that you know you're having flashbacks of like, oh yeah, that's how the characters moved. It was like, there's no...

00:23:19.24
Jaime G
You can only like do this. You can't run. There's like so many things that are coming back. So this is a game that was like leaned in hard into the, this is this is a visual enhancement. There's like no no other upgrades.

00:23:37.75
Jaime G
Sure, they might have dropped in an extra camo or two 10.

00:23:44.33
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:23:44.54
Jaime G
um But those camos don't really change the controls. They change things like, hey, you're going to restore more HP. You're going to blend better and reduce your the awareness level for the characters who are looking for you.

00:24:00.24
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:24:00.27
Jaime G
things Things that you can kind of tweak in the gameplay mechanics, right?

00:24:04.79
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:24:05.26
Jaime G
ah but there's so many things that are just like, they are, they like completely set out to give you the same exact game and it just looks better.

00:24:16.94
Jaime G
Um, Felix was watching me play, ah you know, for, I've, I've, I've got a several hours into the game. I've already made it up to a decent point in the game.

00:24:28.29
Jaime G
And he was just like several times. He's like, okay, dad, I'm leaving. i was like, what? I mean, because he always like wants to watch you play. He's like, the game doesn't seem fun, dad.

00:24:42.51
Jaime G
And, and again,

00:24:42.55
Tony Sisk
The Felix meter.

00:24:44.54
Jaime G
well the though I got a story about the Felix meter in regards to the Nintendo switch, but I'll save that for later. So he was looking at this game and he's watched me play a bunch of games. But again, this game also relies heavily, heavily into like cut scenes that are like eight, between eight and 15 minutes long.

00:25:09.90
Jaime G
And I mean, think about it. This is Kojima in his prime when he was like, everything he had touched people, people were like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever.

00:25:16.80
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:25:20.26
Jaime G
Right. Before he thought that again, a walking simulator was a a good game.

00:25:21.15
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:25:24.92
Jaime G
um So I don't think that that even for me watching this back in the day, they had me hanging on every single bit of dialogue because everything was important because since this is like based in like the cold war area and sometimes they're referencing things that happen in middle year solid one or two or like that there's a connection now like part of me is just like why is this cutscene so long

00:25:37.83
Tony Sisk
Uh-huh.

00:25:45.18
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:25:56.61
Jaime G
it might be even me with a shorter attention span, it might be me recognizing that games today have cut scenes that are short or if they're on the longer side, there's like a lot of action, a lot of explosions, a lot of things that keep your attention engaged.

00:26:14.07
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:26:14.30
Jaime G
Whereas here there's like a lot of, it's just snake talking on the codec with the captain with, yeah, with his captain. And he's like, Hey, what are you doing here?

00:26:23.53
Tony Sisk
oh yeah.

00:26:26.47
Tony Sisk
I get that. That's like right at the very beginning. Like when they're introducing a lot of the game mechanics and stuff, you have to talk over the radio.

00:26:34.16
Jaime G
ah hu

00:26:34.50
Tony Sisk
And they go into this long spiel about why you do this and why you do that. i'm like, just tell me.

00:26:41.34
Jaime G
There's a ton of those, Tony. It's not just the beginning. There's ton. and And you know, there's this thing about Snake Man. He's like, I think he's like mentally challenged or something because they'll ask him stuff and he'll respond with the same exact question a ton of times.

00:27:05.94
Jaime G
they're They're like, hey man, there's a rocket launcher over there. He's like, rocket launcher? This is used for warfare. and

00:27:17.22
Jaime G
Okay. this is the I don't know how this game's going to do. they Hey, I love the original one. I've played it several times. i was like, I played the original one even into like in the max difficulty and I made it to the final boss.

00:27:33.18
Tony Sisk
Oh, yeah.

00:27:33.49
Jaime G
And I specifically remember never being able to beat the final boss at max difficulty. So I'm playing this one. And again, it you're like really transported back in time and you're like, this is how this game should have looked like.

00:27:48.65
Jaime G
But now I wish it didn't play like it did.

00:27:53.60
Jaime G
i mean, does that make sense? Is that, is that kind of weird?

00:27:55.19
Tony Sisk
It makes perfect sense to me because, like, man, i that's the whole point of doing the remakes. The whole point is, like, to make them more user-friendly, you know, versus, like,

00:28:12.20
Tony Sisk
ah the whole D-pad control system or whatever. I just don't, like... Like I said, I got the remastered version and I'm playing it on my Steam Deck and the default settings is like aim but you know, I can't remember what the control is but it's like it wants you to aim and shoot with basically the same finger on

00:28:21.96
Jaime G
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:28:41.59
Jaime G
know

00:28:43.42
Tony Sisk
two different portions of the same side of the control. I'm like, Who came up with this? Like I have to literally reach across with my other hand to aim so or or vice versa to shoot.

00:28:58.47
Tony Sisk
It's so, you know, unnatural.

00:29:06.77
Jaime G
It's the, yeah, man. Again, I, I think, I still think that for the time, this is probably one of the greatest PlayStation 2 games that ever came out.

00:29:17.77
Jaime G
And it's a great opportunity for somebody to come in and, and play it. But it's, it's, I, in my opinion, I'm not a pro, pro reviewer here.

00:29:28.99
Jaime G
It doesn't bring off. It doesn't offer much more. then a really impressive graphical enhancement. And again, I know they've done that theyve there's like games that have done like the HD remaster, right? Like Shadow of the Colossus.

00:29:43.77
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:29:43.85
Jaime G
And they just cleaned up the polygons.

00:29:43.94
Tony Sisk
Okay.

00:29:45.61
Jaime G
I can hear they redid this all through like Unreal Engine, and it just looks fantastic. It doesn't offer much in terms of anything else that you're goingnna that you remember from the original.

00:29:59.43
Jaime G
And again, the controls, man, that's been That's been such a hard thing too to game through because as gamers, you're not accustomed to how janky these controls were back in the day. And you just accepted it.

00:30:12.23
Jaime G
you know That was cutting edge back in 21 years ago.

00:30:14.90
Tony Sisk
And everybody had their own control scheme.

00:30:16.11
Jaime G
and Yeah,

00:30:17.95
Tony Sisk
ah

00:30:18.52
Jaime G
yeah, yeah.

00:30:20.92
Jaime G
So i i again, I think if you're a fan, check it out, play it, but be forewarned. you're you're really going to be transported to like a different decade of gaming

00:30:34.79
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:30:38.00
Tony Sisk
All right. Well, thanks for the warning. That was saved by money for Borderlands. Yeah.

00:30:44.07
Jaime G
i'm i'm just being honest i mean i'm i'm playing it i'm having there's good things that i'm getting out of it but there's a couple of challenges along the the way.

00:30:54.94
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:30:54.98
Jaime G
And again, think of like the newer generation seeing this and felix Felix is like, he's been seeing me play, he's been seeing me play. He's like, dad, that doesn't seem fun because again, there's a lot of stealth mechanics.

00:31:08.26
Jaime G
ah that's kind of like the the MGS thing, right? You can go guns blazing and more than likely you're probably going to get killed.

00:31:15.32
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:31:15.53
Jaime G
but youre But you're trying to be stealth and whatever, and he's just like, yeah, I want something that's fast.

00:31:25.22
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I mean, stealth games can be really, really slow.

00:31:28.69
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:31:28.83
Tony Sisk
i mean, that's part of the game mechanic a lot of times, but... Yeah. I can only... i like a soon soon Every time I play a stealth game, eventually, i go in guns blazing.

00:31:43.08
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:31:44.15
Tony Sisk
And what's that once i what's that threshold is crossed, it's like, you know, crossing Rubicon, it's the rest of the game.

00:31:44.68
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:31:51.26
Tony Sisk
Guns blazing.

00:31:52.96
Jaime G
yeah right

00:31:53.13
Tony Sisk
Because, oh, I just accomplished the same. I just accomplished the mission in half the time. And there's no penalty for it, really. So.

00:32:04.26
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:32:04.44
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:32:04.76
Jaime G
No, man. Again, play it. I mean, but if you have, if you, if you picked up, what is it? The HD remaster. I don't even, i can't even remember if this game was on it.

00:32:16.72
Jaime G
You're getting the same game. Just looks better.

00:32:21.17
Tony Sisk
All right, then. I'll borrow your copy.

00:32:27.19
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:32:27.68
Tony Sisk
Once you're done.

00:32:30.36
Tony Sisk
All right. We'll shift gears to, I think, Alien Earth. That's been our show of the moment.

00:32:42.50
Jaime G
Yes. and What did you think about the, up what is it? Episode four?

00:32:48.33
Tony Sisk
Where she has a pet alien.

00:32:52.87
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

00:32:54.78
Tony Sisk
I think, well, it's gross, but it's just like lining up for so many bad things to happen in like multiple fronts.

00:33:06.65
Tony Sisk
Like you've got one of the hybrids like starting to go crazy.

00:33:12.85
Tony Sisk
You got the

00:33:13.34
Jaime G
did what ah What's your take on on

00:33:19.61
Jaime G
ah the hybrid basically slicing and dicing a xenomorph?

00:33:29.66
Tony Sisk
You're talking about like she did in episode two?

00:33:33.15
Jaime G
ah Yeah, episode three.

00:33:34.32
Tony Sisk
behind Behind the closed door? Yeah.

00:33:36.74
Jaime G
Yeah. And then you open up everything and the the alien is like slid in half.

00:33:43.62
Tony Sisk
It's like out of a cartoon. um Yeah, I don't know.

00:33:45.66
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:33:48.80
Tony Sisk
I mean, they can still be destroyed. It's like like their bodies are made out of like some sort of super titanium thing that's indestructible.

00:33:59.30
Jaime G
No, but the inside, whatever they, they pulled a curtain behind, there's just too much acid blood all over the place. And she's for better worse unharmed.

00:34:14.07
Tony Sisk
Right. I don't know.

00:34:15.96
Jaime G
you can't do that much damage and not have any acid blood fall on you.

00:34:16.13
Tony Sisk
I mean...

00:34:23.29
Tony Sisk
Right. this she she said some She should have some holes in her. But... I don't know. It was way too easy for her to do that.

00:34:33.69
Tony Sisk
Even being in super...

00:34:34.04
Jaime G
It was right. So, so this sets her up, this sets her up to be like, you know, able to take on another one, right?

00:34:34.67
Tony Sisk
Superpowered. Superpowered.

00:34:41.73
Jaime G
There's, there's, you know,

00:34:43.94
Tony Sisk
Right

00:34:45.14
Jaime G
increase the difficulty level or something.

00:34:50.30
Tony Sisk
Yeah I mean <unk>s There's this whole backstory with her Like how she's being able to hear Their language

00:34:50.37
Jaime G
So, so curious.

00:34:55.85
Jaime G
No, go ahead, man. Go ahead.

00:35:05.17
Tony Sisk
Like why? And she was able to hear it when they went to go do the rescue and Prodigy City or whatever. I think that's the name of the city.

00:35:16.26
Tony Sisk
um When they got off the ship, she could hear it. So soon as she stepped off the ship, she was like, you hear that noise? She was talking to one of the hybrids.

00:35:23.44
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:35:25.23
Tony Sisk
So it's like she's already got some connection beforehand. So we don't know

00:35:36.11
Tony Sisk
Her backstory at all Like I feel like there's a backstory with like Her family Like her father and stuff Um But I don't know like maybe there's a rare genetic code or gene or something that's passed down.

00:35:53.57
Tony Sisk
Cause you know, the alien franchise has gone in all kinds of different directions with the engineers and all that stuff. So it's like, maybe there's, maybe there's some sort of link there, but, uh, yeah, she's definitely,

00:36:03.21
Jaime G
Right.

00:36:09.70
Tony Sisk
she's definitely different than the other ones.

00:36:13.33
Jaime G
right

00:36:13.38
Tony Sisk
Um, And the other one, though, I can't remember because they all have the Neverland um Peter Pan names. The one girl who thinks she's pregnant.

00:36:28.32
Tony Sisk
um

00:36:28.42
Jaime G
Yeah, dude, I'm like, y'all, yeaha these robots are so smart, but they're saying some things that aren't smart at all.

00:36:36.21
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:36:36.82
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:36:38.22
Tony Sisk
Well, like, I think she I mean, she's losing her mind like they they dropped the hint. In the very first episode where they were talking about like the reason this is such a big leap in technology is because they couldn't do it with adults before because adult minds were too rigid.

00:36:57.15
Jaime G
yeah

00:37:00.67
Jaime G
Yes.

00:37:00.84
Tony Sisk
Um, So we don't know what that means when they say it then, but then you see kind of like what's going on with her. Like maybe this is an example of what that looks like.

00:37:14.04
Tony Sisk
She's hallucinating, you know, I guess I would, that would be the word for it. um That's what they call like AI nowadays when the AI gives you some crazy answer.

00:37:26.51
Tony Sisk
That's totally wrong.

00:37:26.79
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:37:27.67
Tony Sisk
You know, like where'd you get that from? That's like, it's hallucinating, just making stuff up.

00:37:33.57
Jaime G
Yeah. Yeah.

00:37:36.63
Tony Sisk
So they the sim the AI simulating real humans, is it's ah it's they've achieved it already right out the yeah out of the batter's box. Don't know the answer? I'm just going to make one up

00:37:50.12
Jaime G
yeah

00:37:52.17
Tony Sisk
But so you got her and she like scared the bejeebies out of the, the one female scientist who thought she was slick, you know? Oh, I'm, I can talk this girl down from whatever. And then no, she couldn't.

00:38:09.21
Tony Sisk
They, she was lucky that that girl didn't break her neck.

00:38:13.97
Jaime G
Dude, I thought she was going to.

00:38:14.03
Tony Sisk
Um,

00:38:19.22
Tony Sisk
And then the espionage thing going on with the the cyborg where he's got the, you know, in the head communications going on to the one, one guy is basically holding his family hostage, you know? Oh, you don't help me. I thought we could be friends, but I guess not.

00:38:40.17
Tony Sisk
So we don't help me. Your family is going to, you know, feel the brunt of my revenge.

00:38:46.97
Jaime G
to

00:38:46.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:38:47.82
Jaime G
Do you think that the big bad for the series for the season isn't really going to be the Xenomorph?

00:39:03.32
Tony Sisk
The Xenomorph is like obviously the big threat, but it's never really been like in any of the stuff, like the the evil force, you know?

00:39:17.03
Tony Sisk
It's just like a wild animal.

00:39:17.88
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:39:18.46
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:39:19.50
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:39:22.54
Tony Sisk
Weyland-Yutani, the corporation, has always been, like, the ones pushing the button, you know, basically ordering the death of people so it could get what what it wants in almost every film.

00:39:36.10
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:39:38.02
Tony Sisk
So, but this is a different corporation. This is Prodigy, so... don't know. Like, you know, Cavalier, which is the trillionaire kid, he's, like, wacko. He's crazy.

00:39:50.98
Jaime G
Oh, yeah, totally.

00:39:51.17
Tony Sisk
oh

00:39:55.27
Tony Sisk
So, you know, i mean, Kirsch is the only, like, Kirsch is being presented as, like, this, like, level-headed cyborg guy who's just, like, you know, he recognizes the threat.

00:40:12.00
Tony Sisk
you know, he tells people to be careful, you know.

00:40:13.16
Jaime G
he He picked up. He picked up on the fact that um Whenever Prodigy was in the room, he's like, you need to get out of here. Right? Because that's when the cocoon like opened up.

00:40:25.46
Tony Sisk
Right, yeah. Like...

00:40:29.63
Jaime G
Like, how many movies have we had of the Alien franchises and people never pick up on that?

00:40:35.44
Tony Sisk
Right. Like, he's being presented as this, like, likable cyborg character.

00:40:43.32
Tony Sisk
Which is like, I don't know. This seems like a curveball being set up. You know?

00:40:49.34
Jaime G
ah

00:40:51.71
Tony Sisk
like Even though he's like done right by everybody for the most part, he's still like analyzing everything too.

00:40:56.32
Jaime G
yeah huh

00:41:00.40
Tony Sisk
like i don't The way he stared down that goat or that lamb,

00:41:08.14
Tony Sisk
he was like staring it down, but he was also super fascinated by it.

00:41:08.55
Jaime G
I think that

00:41:12.82
Jaime G
um' I'm going to tell you this. I think that eyeball is the big bad.

00:41:19.19
Tony Sisk
Probably.

00:41:20.61
Jaime G
I think that I, dude, that thing is the stuff that, you know, nightmares are made out of.

00:41:20.76
Tony Sisk
I mean, it's super ugly. Super ugly.

00:41:30.81
Tony Sisk
Well, it seems to be super intelligent. Like, really intelligent. I don't know.

00:41:36.20
Jaime G
who

00:41:39.83
Jaime G
I really think that that is the threat. That's why I was asking you, like, do you think that this is going to be the big bet? I i somehow think that That eyeball is going to get on on the xenomorph. It's going to somehow be immune to the acid.

00:41:55.87
Jaime G
And sparks are going to fly, man. Imagine the xenomorph for like the whole brain smartness of this thing paired together. It's like a level up, man.

00:42:08.32
Jaime G
um

00:42:09.41
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:42:09.94
Jaime G
But I mean... i I will repeat the same thing I said before. There's bits and pieces of this show where you kind of have to shut off that part of your brain that you know connects the dots and wants things to make sense.

00:42:31.84
Jaime G
There's a couple things that are just like, if you just start thinking about these, you'll you're going to you know find cracks on them.

00:42:40.02
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, I mean, I mean, it's a show about aliens that pop out your chest, so.

00:42:49.46
Tony Sisk
ah ah You kind have to take the rest of it with it, too.

00:42:53.23
Jaime G
Yeah, OK, OK.

00:42:54.45
Tony Sisk
ah But I mean.

00:42:59.44
Tony Sisk
Does it have the horror elements? Yeah, it does.

00:43:03.47
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:43:04.76
Tony Sisk
And it doesn't go like, it hasn't gone like seriously over the top, like early on. Like you don't see, yeah there's been deaths when, when they went to do the rescue, obviously, you know, several of those soldiers died, but, ah but back on the Island, they're building up that tension.

00:43:18.88
Jaime G
Uh-huh.

00:43:25.41
Tony Sisk
Like, you know, with the one girl who's losing her mind. and like So it's building up. yeah So it's like, oh, I know. something When it goes down, it's going to be bad.

00:43:39.17
Jaime G
Oh, yeah. and And also, I didn't realize that those two doctors were married.

00:43:45.06
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:43:45.62
Jaime G
went

00:43:45.71
Tony Sisk
Yeah, the one guy' like but one guy's like, this is so wrong.

00:43:46.05
Jaime G
When the guy's like,

00:43:50.01
Tony Sisk
We need to we need to do something. Yeah. yeah I don't know what you're going to Like, they're basically the government.

00:43:58.15
Jaime G
Yeah, but but you know, have I mean, did can you relate to that character where he was like, I'm not telling you to do this as a scientist. I'm telling you do this as your husband.

00:44:10.83
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:13.78
Jaime G
ah

00:44:16.67
Jaime G
I mean, when he said that, I'm like, ah i I kind of had this empathy towards towards him.

00:44:21.65
Tony Sisk
Which totally means he's dying first.

00:44:24.60
Jaime G
Absolutely right.

00:44:28.68
Jaime G
One more episode, he's gone.

00:44:30.29
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah, he's the first one dying. ah

00:44:32.93
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:44:33.37
Tony Sisk
you got to get the moral, the the smart guy, who the person that knows to run out of the room and get out of Dodge, we got to kill him first.

00:44:41.25
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:44:42.22
Tony Sisk
Because otherwise he's going to talk sense than everybody else.

00:44:46.76
Jaime G
See, I was just telling you, you have to disconnect that portion of reason in your mind.

00:44:53.75
Jaime G
The guy who's trying to do the reasonable thing that's often.

00:44:57.82
Tony Sisk
Right. Now that will just leave his brother or her brother. Wendy's brother.

00:45:05.08
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:45:05.68
Tony Sisk
i don't remember his name.

00:45:06.12
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:45:07.13
Tony Sisk
The medic. They just call him the medic.

00:45:09.08
Jaime G
Kermit.

00:45:11.12
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:45:12.47
Jaime G
Kermit or hermit.

00:45:13.87
Tony Sisk
Something like that. It's weird.

00:45:16.07
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:45:16.35
Tony Sisk
Medic is better. he, he,

00:45:18.44
Jaime G
Medic. I mean, they they' all have like weird names, and they're like even supposed to not use their names.

00:45:22.52
Tony Sisk
he he was the ultimate medic. Cause he gave up his lung.

00:45:29.15
Tony Sisk
for for science. It didn't even know.

00:45:32.25
Jaime G
I don't think he gave it intentionally knowing what was going to happen.

00:45:38.76
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:45:38.87
Jaime G
i

00:45:39.08
Tony Sisk
So, yeah.

00:45:39.36
Jaime G
um

00:45:42.26
Jaime G
I'm still watching.

00:45:42.68
Tony Sisk
But,

00:45:42.98
Jaime G
you know i'm still... enjoying, but, but there are some times I'm like, okay, you know what you're signing up for? Let's do this.

00:45:53.59
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah. when When it all goes south, it's... There's a lot of soldiers on island. I didn't know what's up. There's a lot of dudes forming unit on there. So they got plenty of firepower to be taken out.

00:46:06.83
Jaime G
and And you know, you're just kind of waiting for somebody to push the wrong button and it's all going to go south.

00:46:16.28
Tony Sisk
Well, it's not like they had the greatest security measures in those labs. Like, anybody could just walk in.

00:46:21.86
Jaime G
Right?

00:46:24.87
Tony Sisk
Like, oh, you know, come on in.

00:46:29.45
Tony Sisk
We're experimenting on this super dangerous alien species that can jump on you. We'll leave the door unlocked for you.

00:46:42.31
Jaime G
I will.

00:46:42.41
Tony Sisk
even the every the but Even the head guy, the cavalier, he's like, you know, like you were talking about, he comes in, he walks right up to the egg. He start it sticks his face right up to it.

00:46:51.08
Jaime G
Right?

00:46:54.56
Tony Sisk
And Kersh waited. Like, he didn't say, ah don't do that. He was like, he waited until he started to see movement on the egg. Then he's like, you need to back up.

00:47:08.57
Jaime G
Right, right.

00:47:12.89
Tony Sisk
So.

00:47:13.13
Jaime G
See, now but I'm curious because all all the characters, like all the names. And you know what? That lost boy who they have his family held up.

00:47:22.79
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:47:23.37
Jaime G
um Oh, yeah, his name is Hermit. um Slightly. Slightly. he definitely, I mean, the only character that he can try to get in the room to do what Mauro is asking him to do is he he he has to grab hermit.

00:47:44.45
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:47:44.86
Jaime G
And in doing that, Wendy's going to be like, uh-uh.

00:47:49.13
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's going to be, they've they're setting up where the hybrids are all going be working because against each other.

00:47:52.16
Jaime G
So.

00:48:01.47
Jaime G
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:48:02.88
Tony Sisk
ah Because you've got the one that once like keeps trying to impress Cavalier. Like, I'm the better model. you know I'm smarter and I'm prettier and buth blah, blah, blah.

00:48:18.75
Jaime G
Was her name Curly? The ones who would do that? wants to do that

00:48:21.91
Tony Sisk
Maybe, yeah.

00:48:23.48
Jaime G
Yeah, because the one that's going crazy is Nibs.

00:48:26.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So they're all kind of...

00:48:29.16
Jaime G
Now, I'm cheating. I have like a cheat sheet where all the characters' names because they're they're just just crazy.

00:48:31.92
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I don't remember their names, but...

00:48:35.72
Jaime G
Too many.

00:48:36.92
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but they're all kind of being set up to work against each other against each other eventually, so it's like...

00:48:43.26
Jaime G
Yeah, because you're going to have Wendy on one side. She might be you know pairing up with Xenomorphs. ah Maro is going to be working with Slightly. Nibs is going to be all crazy.

00:48:56.50
Jaime G
Yeah. And Kersh is probably going to be the one that's going to step up to try to do like security.

00:49:03.83
Tony Sisk
But he wants to see it all play out first before he does anything.

00:49:06.87
Jaime G
Right. Oddly enough, Kersh is the one that's like the most logical one of them all to me at this point.

00:49:14.23
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Which is why I'm saying it's a big curveball. Like, I feel like he's working for, like, Weyland-Yutani.

00:49:25.77
Tony Sisk
Like, it's just, it's like, why did this ship, why did this ship crash into, product into product like,

00:49:29.73
Jaime G
If he did that...

00:49:33.92
Tony Sisk
Why? Why did it crash?

00:49:35.84
Jaime G
do it Dude, here's the thing. If Kirsch double-crosses his company that built him and did all these days for him, you know how...

00:49:48.41
Jaime G
oh A big play on the whole show is like what Kevalier wants to prove is are these ah

00:49:59.28
Jaime G
Borgs alive, basically?

00:50:01.22
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:50:01.73
Jaime G
Remember? Because when Hermit is like, hey, that's my sister. And they he's like, is she? I mean, she's just her memories, right?

00:50:08.94
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:50:09.10
Jaime G
If Kersh plays the double cross, boom. Humanity proven.

00:50:16.31
Tony Sisk
Right Well and Cavalier is like I want somebody who's as smart and smart as me to have a conversation with Right And he thinks like these hybrids

00:50:25.85
Jaime G
Oh, man, such a slap in the face to the doctor at that point.

00:50:30.67
Tony Sisk
Right um But like I don't know curse man It seems like He's working like a double agent line here, but which, like, who is he working for? Like, like I said, go back to why did the ship crash?

00:50:47.29
Tony Sisk
Why did the, uh, the cyborg dude do what he did?

00:50:51.30
Jaime G
It It crashed because they had a xenomorph running around killing everybody on on on deck.

00:50:58.45
Tony Sisk
Well, we know from my, I think the second movie, they, they said that, um, the aliens couldn't get past quarantine.

00:51:12.03
Tony Sisk
Well, who's running quarantine? Who's running? Cause you remember the big circular thing that they crashed through?

00:51:16.27
Jaime G
the The alien couldn't get past Dude, you you just threw out like such a reference to like and such a deep cut right here. They couldn't get through quarantine as the alien. They had to get them inside of a human.

00:51:31.22
Jaime G
And that's why Paul Reiser was trying to get, um was it Newt or Seagull?

00:51:31.32
Tony Sisk
Right.

00:51:38.05
Tony Sisk
Newt. Yeah.

00:51:39.61
Jaime G
Yeah, he wanted to get Newt like, you know, and with a face hugger.

00:51:44.02
Tony Sisk
Now, the actions of the original movie was in like, I think the year 2079 something. like 80 years later.

00:51:53.51
Jaime G
Yes.

00:51:55.44
Tony Sisk
and that it was like eighty

00:51:55.81
Jaime G
Well after this movie.

00:51:57.18
Tony Sisk
eighty years later was the second movie 75 years later something like that.

00:52:03.66
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:52:05.20
Tony Sisk
So 21 something. And what year was it in this movie?

00:52:11.56
Jaime G
Wasn't it like 2020?

00:52:14.19
Tony Sisk
No, we're in 2020 now.

00:52:16.73
Jaime G
I know, but but again, disconnect logic.

00:52:17.05
Tony Sisk
Like,

00:52:22.47
Tony Sisk
right.

00:52:22.70
Jaime G
I keep saying that.

00:52:22.99
Tony Sisk
I, I'm like trying to figure out like, what the timeline is here, because if that's I think that's important to know, because why did, obviously, what you said was right, you know, the alien killed everybody on the ship, but, the ship belonged to Weyland-Yutani, Weyland-Yutani knew what they were bringing back, so the question like is, like,

00:52:38.93
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:52:46.34
Jaime G
Totally.

00:52:49.69
Tony Sisk
That satellite gateway thing that they passed through, I'm assuming it was the quarantine station where you had to check in.

00:52:56.26
Jaime G
Probably.

00:52:59.27
Tony Sisk
It's probably a cooperative run by all five of the corporations. So they blew right past that.

00:53:09.97
Tony Sisk
But then the ship crashed. What Weyland-Yutani would have had to, if they were going to take that risk, they would ah they they would know that there's a probably a 20%, 80% chance that that ship is going to crash somewhere on a planet that doesn't belong to them.

00:53:28.33
Tony Sisk
It's going to belong to one of the other corporations.

00:53:32.27
Tony Sisk
So why would they crash it? Why not just bring it through? Inhumans, like you said, but directly to their own property or spaceports or whatever.

00:53:48.00
Tony Sisk
Well, they couldn't do that because they had other alien species that they were also...

00:53:48.41
Jaime G
Probably.

00:53:51.56
Jaime G
It's probably easier to smuggle in the alien life forms if you do it that way. Because you know how ah Prodigy was able to just send a group and they're like, oh yeah, no questions asked, go in right ahead.

00:54:06.17
Jaime G
And the same way they were able probably here to secure stuff. So I'm guessing that it if they did that, they would have been like, hey, we can get these things out as like a crash site evidence or something.

00:54:22.56
Jaime G
and get them in for further analysis rather than trying to go like the quote unquote legal way to do this.

00:54:28.62
Tony Sisk
Right. So, okay, so I put up the timeline for the Alien franchise. So Alien Earth is set in 2120, which is two years before the original Alien film, 2122.

00:54:40.69
Tony Sisk
Alien in 2122.

00:54:40.84
Jaime G
I said 2020, man. i was like, I was off by a hundred. Sorry.

00:54:46.45
Tony Sisk
so alien was in twenty one twenty two Now, before Alien, there was three movies that dealt with the time period before Alien.

00:54:50.74
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.

00:54:56.98
Tony Sisk
That was Prometheus, which was 2089 and 2093.

00:54:58.45
Jaime G
Wait,

00:55:03.40
Tony Sisk
Alien Covenant, which is 2104. And then an Alien Earth. So, humans have had exposure to the alien race.

00:55:14.72
Jaime G
what does alien drama list sit on?

00:55:17.31
Tony Sisk
What's that?

00:55:18.61
Jaime G
When's Ramelus sit in?

00:55:20.74
Tony Sisk
2142. So... And Aliens was set 2179.

00:55:22.60
Jaime G
Okay.

00:55:24.77
Tony Sisk
So almost 100 years later the Prometheus movie. So... But... seventy nine so almost a hundred years later

00:55:32.39
Jaime G
Okay.

00:55:34.28
Tony Sisk
from the prometheus movie so but Before Alien Earth, there was exposure to aliens, ah this alien race, the species.

00:55:50.78
Jaime G
and

00:55:50.92
Tony Sisk
So, okay. I mean, obviously, they know what they're bringing back.

00:55:58.43
Jaime G
yeah

00:56:01.72
Jaime G
I don't know. Moving forward, i think that the a eyeball life form, that's that's the season of Big Bad.

00:56:12.27
Tony Sisk
Yeah, they have spent a lot of time with that particular alien.

00:56:12.75
Jaime G
That's just my thoughts. Right. And and there's there's another one that you kind of got in hindsight that is kind of dangerous, but they really never said even what it does.

00:56:19.15
Tony Sisk
they Yeah.

00:56:24.33
Jaime G
The one that looks like a flower petal thing. that just kind of opened up and there's like a tentacle that came out and you're like, this something's about to go down.

00:56:30.67
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:56:33.66
Jaime G
And then they just pulled away.

00:56:36.29
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

00:56:39.20
Tony Sisk
They didn't sense the life form.

00:56:41.94
Jaime G
I don't know, but clearly they're setting that that one up up for something else. But remember, there's there're supposed to be like eight life forms or seven. We've only seen the eyeball, the xenomorph,

00:56:58.04
Jaime G
the one that we were just talking about, the bug, that one looks gross, but there's a couple that we haven't seen.

00:56:58.10
Tony Sisk
We see the little bug, the bugs, bloodsuckers.

00:57:06.35
Jaime G
and Okay, I will say this again. i don't think this is going to happen, but the rumor mill on the internet says that there's there's a predator in there.

00:57:18.69
Tony Sisk
There's a predator on the island.

00:57:18.82
Jaime G
Because again, well, yes, but but again, they've never, ever... There's a couple of aliens or life forms that we haven't seen.

00:57:31.10
Tony Sisk
Oh, you're saying that they captured a predator.

00:57:33.46
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:57:34.00
Tony Sisk
Oh, okay. That would be interesting.

00:57:36.81
Jaime G
It'd be interesting, but again, ah it's it's just too much. It's just too much for for that to be a reality.

00:57:42.93
Tony Sisk
Right. All right. Cool. Well, we'll see. We got the next episode tomorrow. So I'm interested. so yeah How many episodes are there?

00:57:53.84
Jaime G
I'm interested too. Eight.

00:57:56.65
Tony Sisk
Eight. Oh, then we're getting close.

00:57:58.66
Jaime G
Yeah, where we we we're at the halfway mark.

00:58:04.15
Tony Sisk
yeah

00:58:04.43
Jaime G
And I hope that this does well, well enough where we get some additional spinoffs.

00:58:12.59
Tony Sisk
Right

00:58:12.80
Jaime G
Because the last Alien movie god did a lot better than what they were expecting it to do.

00:58:21.24
Tony Sisk
Right Well it's good movie Alright cool Well it's good having you back Getting to sit down and talk some more But

00:58:24.49
Jaime G
It was.

00:58:31.28
Jaime G
Yeah.

00:58:35.36
Tony Sisk
Yep, you got a lot to lot of games coming up this fall. So be talking a lot of games here too in the next couple months. Silk Song. What are you getting in when it drops?

00:58:47.52
Tony Sisk
Did you say?

00:58:50.68
Jaime G
I want to, but I i i feel like i'm i've i the I've already invested on Metal Gear Solid.

00:58:57.80
Tony Sisk
ah Right, ye you don't want to split your attention. Otherwise, you won't finish.

00:59:02.91
Jaime G
Yes.

00:59:02.94
Tony Sisk
I've learned that.

00:59:04.72
Jaime G
And ah right.

00:59:04.79
Tony Sisk
Like, don't split your dis distinction.

00:59:07.49
Jaime G
It's hard to say, let me let me put this game down, go play another one for a long time and then be like, okay, now I'm going to come back to this.

00:59:14.23
Tony Sisk
Right. All

00:59:15.80
Jaime G
It's hard.

00:59:18.37
Tony Sisk
right. Cool. Well, catch you next week, hopefully. What's

00:59:23.03
Jaime G
Hey, hey, hey, hey, I got one one last thing, the one last thing to share.

00:59:26.76
Tony Sisk
up?

00:59:28.27
Jaime G
Nashville Symphony. Um... About a year ago, i gave a actually put this up in and Discord, but I'm going to share it here. There's an upcoming event on September the 17th.

00:59:45.00
Jaime G
um I think and think that's right. That's weird because the 17th is until Wednesday. But there's they're going to do a second concert. They did one about a year ago.

00:59:56.48
Jaime G
This one's going to be all around... ah video games. So there's going to be a concert where they're going to be playing like themes from Halo, Legend of Zelda, etc, etc, etc.

01:00:01.30
Tony Sisk
Yeah.

01:00:08.79
Jaime G
um So I don't know. it's It's actually kind it's called Game Symphonic.

01:00:15.29
Tony Sisk
yeah

01:00:16.29
Jaime G
And I said to 17th, I was wrong. It's the 12th.

01:00:21.22
Jaime G
But it's, oh, expect music from The Legend of Zelda, Halo, The Last of Us. That was okay. Fortnite, Fallout, StarCraft, and World of Warcraft.

01:00:31.81
Tony Sisk
Okay.

01:00:32.94
Jaime G
So just doing a PSA here. ah Tickets are $29.

01:00:36.45
Tony Sisk
yeah

01:00:38.82
Jaime G
You're probably going to spend more on parking than what you're going to spend on the event. All right.

01:00:43.25
Tony Sisk
Right. Yeah. The $40 national parking.

01:00:46.96
Jaime G
And their flute guy from the from the Game Awards might be there too.

01:00:52.30
Tony Sisk
Oh, really?

01:00:52.46
Jaime G
So see an extra celebrity.

01:00:53.10
Tony Sisk
Okay.

01:00:56.22
Tony Sisk
Flute guy. It's getting up on that season.

01:00:57.70
Jaime G
Yeah. Dude, this this might be you know him getting ready. Dude, at the game Games Award, you you know you're going to hear them play something from Claire of Square.

01:01:13.38
Tony Sisk
Oh, there's probably two or three songs that are going to play from that.

01:01:13.66
Jaime G
Which...

01:01:16.41
Jaime G
And by the way, did you see the interview from the developers? They were like, the name of the game is Klaribsker. Expedition 33 is a story we wanted to tell. So there they hinted at sequels of different expeditions.

01:01:36.40
Tony Sisk
OK.

01:01:37.22
Jaime G
so so But they're like...

01:01:37.64
Tony Sisk
Well, everybody's wiped. OK. So there's nothing after 33 because everybody was wiped out, like the entire. Oh, spoiler.

01:01:47.67
Jaime G
Well, that depend depending on which path you took to be in, which one ends up being canon.

01:01:53.46
Tony Sisk
That's true. That's true.

01:01:55.04
Jaime G
Because both paths kind of hint at different things that could happen as a future to the series.

01:01:55.30
Tony Sisk
Though I think.

01:02:03.19
Jaime G
Yeah, but but they said they...

01:02:04.01
Tony Sisk
Well, I mean, they're painters, so they can they could really go in any direction they wanted to.

01:02:04.43
Jaime G
they

01:02:08.19
Jaime G
Yeah. So so they they they they did a recent interview and they said, no, because they kept on saying, hey, your game Expedition 33 Expedition. They're like, no, no, no, no. This game is Klairska.

01:02:18.97
Jaime G
And we told the story of Expedition 33. We want to tell some additional stories of different expeditions.

01:02:26.29
Tony Sisk
Right.

01:02:27.23
Jaime G
But they're like, Expedition is the chapter we we we we set out to tell.

01:02:32.66
Tony Sisk
Right.

01:02:33.80
Jaime G
I was like, hmm.

01:02:34.23
Tony Sisk
Okay.

01:02:36.09
Jaime G
and Hint, hint.

01:02:37.46
Tony Sisk
Yeah. They should do a story on the riders.

01:02:43.44
Jaime G
Yeah, you know, they were like at at war with the painters, right?

01:02:46.44
Tony Sisk
Right? The riders and the panniers were at war.

01:02:49.30
Jaime G
Yeah.

01:02:50.00
Tony Sisk
All right.

01:02:52.48
Jaime G
You never know.

01:02:53.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah, who knows? All right. Well, I'll catch you later. All right.

01:02:58.31
Jaime G
my friend, I'll talk to you soon. right.

01:03:00.30
Tony Sisk
Bye.

01:03:02.53
Tony Sisk
right. Hit the stop.